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EVE-Online RP Discussion and Resources => EVE OOC Summit => Topic started by: Saxon Hawke on 18 Oct 2010, 16:33
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Okay, maybe I wouldn't go that far, but I do seriously enjoy the direction he is going with his RP.
I always liked Captain America, but Wolverine was cooler. Why? Wolverine had a dark side and used questionable techniques. It gave him a edge and more dimension.
As someone whose own RP benefits from a darker Federation, I give Seri a big thumbs up.
Sir, I salute you!
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this topic will go downhill so very fast...
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It's awesome, because in so many ways, Seriphyn is the total opposite of what Mammal stands for, so it gives my left-wing intellectual philosopher a chance to say stuff.
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http://daysuntil.com/April-Fools-Day/index.html
little premature there, hoss.
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uhm
A jin-mei for president.... i wonder what reaction would that cause on the "noble gallentean families" :twisted:
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This is utterly impossible.
But why he didn't run for the New Eden Assembly, I have no clue. (loladvertisingplugin#10)
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this topic will go downhill so very fast...
Why?
I like his RP too.
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Here's Gunnery Sergeant Hartman to express my opinion:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3tPs1Fn8xeY&feature=related
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I like Seri's take on the Fed; it's helped me calibrate Simon and it's fun to watch. Too bad we're never on at the same time anymore.
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Someone's got to take Blaque's place. ;)
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If Seri ran for prez, he'd lose based on my sig.
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Heh, this was a nice surprise :)
In actuality, what I really need to do is write up a good amount of fiction to explain Seriphyn's character and reasoning. The only folk who do know are the people who have RP'd with him extensively, particularly close friends and romantic partners. Naturally, though, this is in the realm of the private. OOC I can't expect people to understand my mental image and creation of Seriphyn if its all in my head, and not for them to read :P
At the core of it, characters like Mammal, Saxon, Simon et al are far more pro-Federation than Seriphyn is. Seriphyn's daughter, Anette, who is 10, wants to be President when she grows up, and Seriphyn wants to make sure there is a Federation still standing when she is old enough. However, it's not that basic. He lost his homeworld to the Caldari State, and his family to Sansha's Nation. In both cases, he believes that this is the consequences of a weak and spineless society, constantly worrying about their own wealth and prosperity than to have any grasp on the bigger picture.
During his marine years, Seriphyn harboured a great deal of respect for the Caldari, mostly because of their sense of duty and work ethic, compared to the selfishness of his own population. One element that both me and Seriphyn share is the apprehension of painting someone with a brush from what they say publically and immediately. While he resents the peaceful overtures of his fellow Gallentean capsuleers, he does not despise them, instead he just wishes they would have a better grasp on what "needs to be done".
Moreover, Seriphyn was a youth delinquent from a working class background, spending his years of 11 and up on a Matari enclave that was primarily Brutor on Gallente Prime. He was pulled into the Marines at around 17, and thus has had no education at a university level. Therefore, the way he seeks to acheive things is by violence and aggression, not diplomacy, as he simply has not had the intellectual training to know how to do this effectively (difference is, now he does, but he'd much rather go with what he's used to). He simply believes that the Federation will not be defended by "damn hippie peaceniks", but by men and women with guns. After all, if the Federation military wasn't at such an anaemic state prior to the invasion of Caldari Prime, there may have been a credible defence of his homeworld, and the same applies with Vevelonel, where CONCORD and the empires are being averse to warfooting because "they don't want people to panic" and worry about themselves.
Nola Doyle, actually, was the only character/player to actually "get" Seriphyn, which is very ironic since she's a Sansha loyalist :P (I actually attribute it to the unsurpassed ability of Doyle to separate IC from OOC). Seriphyn is a psychologically engineered weapon of the Federation, particularly due to the efforts of his own mother, Rear Admiral Xiuying Inhonores (her characterization I take a lot from Jia-Lei Lian, in fact). Knowing that her son would not amount to anything of significance on his own, she pulled the necessary strings to shape him to become a capsuleer. First, by gruelling frontline combat as a marine, giving him the mindset of a capsuleer (she is one herself), before ultimately making him a capsuleer (he would not have done so without her working behind the scenes, as non-officers, I imagine, would rarely make it to such a status). Somewhat of a bitch, maybe, but it was motivated by love more than anything else.
The realist, pragmatist politics, though, I actually enjoy doing from an OOC perspective. Seriphyn as a character may not be a political creature, but in terms of PR and public behaviour, it is something he dabbles into and explores, seeking intellectual justifications for his actions (OOC, equally I am exploring more militarist/rightwing politics). Behind the scenes, though, Seriphyn is simply serving as a soldier of the Federation to ensure it remains for his daughter, while the Federation itself, through the actions of his mother, seek to remain ahold of him as their weapon...Seriphyn may or may not be aware of this, even if he did realize he is being used, he would not particularly care, as his own personal justifications to himself is more than enough to keep going. Besides, the more you resist, the more the grip tightens, right?
@ the others, well, if this thread does go downhill very fast, it certainly won't be by myself! :P "Haters gonna hate" :)
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If Damordred / Soter can do it, then I'd give Seri the exact same response I gave them, verbatim: why the hell not?
I see Seri as at least superficially similar to Putin in some respects, anyway.
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Obviously he's not going to win, but the RP may be interesting.
You'll need to write up shittons of threads on the IGS to persuade everyone that you can do it, since CONCORD thinks you're a capsuleer. Again, extremely risky approach, but whatever.
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Capsuleers already ascend to high office. In fact, the current Fed prez is a capsuleer, if memory serves.
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Capsuleers already ascend to high office. In fact, the current Fed prez is a capsuleer, if memory serves.
Roden is, yes.
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...wants to make sure there is a Federation still standing when she is old enough
...constantly worrying about their own wealth and prosperity than to have any grasp on the bigger picture.
...During his marine years, Seriphyn harboured a great deal of respect for the Caldari, mostly because of their sense of duty and work ethic, compared to the selfishness of his own population
...Seriphyn is simply serving as a soldier of the Federation to ensure it remains
I see Seri as at least superficially similar to Putin in some respects, anyway.
I like Seri a lot, both IC and OOC. He's one of the best State-loyalist capsuleers around ;)
The sooner he realises that he's a closet member of the State the better.
If he realises that after he becomes President, then that's even better again!
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Capsuleers already ascend to high office. In fact, the current Fed prez is a capsuleer, if memory serves.
Seriously?
Time to change me RP.
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The only New Eden head of state who is not a capsuleer is Heth. (His opposition leaders, the late Gariushi and currently Reppola are both capsuleers.) Jamyl and Shakor are both capsuleers.
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The only New Eden head of state who is not a capsuleer is Heth. (His opposition leaders, the late Gariushi and currently Reppola are both capsuleers.) Jamyl and Shakor are both capsuleers.
Though it'd be highly unlikely for Jamyl to admit that publicly.
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Besides of the "resurrection" thing, can't see why. It might be even quite positive, once the Church has hand waved tehe resurrection as divine intervention, because it'd let the Sacred Throne to remind that the Empress went to Sarum Prime in person and kicked those Minmatar out of her home world. And for all the plebs - and basically anyone - know, she might still have that weapon. (The weapon being destroyed is OOC knowledge IMO.) For the commoners, implants equal high status. The Emperor/-ress naturally has the best implants. I don't know of the current Heirs, but the previous Heirs (including Jamyl) were all capsule-capable. Might be an oversight by CCP, but it's in the fiction.
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My understanding is that the Heirs are capsuleers but that they're not supposed to be cloned. Not an expert, though.
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My understanding is that the Heirs are capsuleers but that they're not supposed to be cloned. Not an expert, though.
I've been using the same interpretation (note: not an expert, either).
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...wants to make sure there is a Federation still standing when she is old enough
...constantly worrying about their own wealth and prosperity than to have any grasp on the bigger picture.
...During his marine years, Seriphyn harboured a great deal of respect for the Caldari, mostly because of their sense of duty and work ethic, compared to the selfishness of his own population
...Seriphyn is simply serving as a soldier of the Federation to ensure it remains
I see Seri as at least superficially similar to Putin in some respects, anyway.
I like Seri a lot, both IC and OOC. He's one of the best State-loyalist capsuleers around ;)
The sooner he realises that he's a closet member of the State the better.
If he realises that after he becomes President, then that's even better again!
This is one of those things I never liked about the (apparent) mindset of some caldari players - if your hard-working, loyal, dedicated, disiplined and if needed; brutally effective, your basicaly caldari.
I disagree. It's perfectly possible to be all of those things and be loyal to the Fed, Republic or even the empire. I imagine that a tradition-heavy Imperial Navy that has been around for millenia demand those things from their enlisted people far more so than the caldari, who have been around in their own navy the least ammount of time, comperably. The Fed too would demand this - a nation that grew to be the second-biggest in such a short time would have to get a competent military from somewhere. Sadly, it seems many don't realize this and think the caldari are the only ones with hell-bent and effective soldiers.
I could ofc be wrong here. I could have missed something - also if you were merely pulling Seris leg, you were doing a poor job, imho.
Anyhow... staying on topic - not much to say about this, other than that I agree mostly with seri's RP on the Fed.
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Shakor was a capsuleer? interesting