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Title: Dressing our dolls: what clothing would we like?
Post by: Matariki Rain on 16 Jun 2011, 01:32
You've been flushed out of the pod, hacked the nanite-laden perfluorocarbon out of your lungs, and been hosed down in the after-pod shower (don't forget your moisturiser: pod goo is drying). You're about to spend some time alone in your captain's quarters winding down before you get some sleep on that bare shelf of a bed.

What clothes do you reach for?

Mata's preferences:

(0. None, or maybe some yoga pants. Why should she cover her marks? However, given the US market...)

1. A catsuit: step into it; pull up the zip and you're done. Maybe a slightly fancier catsuit that requires some wriggling into it for times when that's appropriate. After the lack of body sensation in the pod it might be nice to feel swaddled, after all. (Diana Rigg as Emma Peel in The Avengers; Uma Thurman in the same role or in Kill Bill; Trinity in The Matrix.)

2. A robe. Something ankle length that swirls a bit around your legs. Lined with something that feels good, since (as above) you haven't been processing much sensation from your skin while you've been in the pod. Maybe something you could curl up in or under on your lonely couch once you find you can't actually dock with the bed anyway. (I'm thinking of something like a priest's soutane or cassock rather than a bathrobe.)

3. Flat, comfortable slip-on shoes. Wearing heels around grille-mesh floors is just... dumb.

The clothes would have a range of colour options like the hair colour options in the character generator.

What about you?

(Once we get to leave our quarters and mix with people there are whole other wardrobe requirements which will vary depending on the types of venues we have available to us. Want a Little Black Dress (that's not like everyone else's LBD). Want a jacket that doesn't give me breast-enhancement surgery. Want my tribal coat-dress and maybe a dancing costume or two. Want a crafting system which allows players to design clothing within certain server-use limits.)
Title: Re: Dressing our dolls: what clothing would we like?
Post by: Senn Typhos on 16 Jun 2011, 02:08
The same pair of combat boots, olive State Navy BDU pants and top, tan t-shirt and dog tags he's been wearing for eight years.

Senn is a dirty man.
Title: Re: Dressing our dolls: what clothing would we like?
Post by: Ciarente on 16 Jun 2011, 02:29
I'm actually reasonably happy with the free clothes for 'hanging around my motel room': T-shirt and cargo pants with space-sneakers works for most of my characters.

That said, I like the new shoes for Cia which means I'll probably move her to a station where the floors aren't grille when the other CQs come out.

When we get to go outside ... do want some pants that aren't either cargo or I-put-my-thong-on-after-instead-of-before-my-trousers (http://img846.imageshack.us/img846/582/ontheinsideor.png).  Do want tops for men and women that don't look like my characters are on their way to a line-dance. Do want a dress or two that doesn't look like the character has done a Scarlette O'Hara but with a vinyl tablecloth instead of the curtains. (http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/9140/camiindress.png)

Also do want mood emotes. Leaving CQ running on SISI while I typed this, I watch an avatar run through a whole range of realistic micro-expressions - now, if only I could get her to do that on purpose.

Title: Re: Dressing our dolls: what clothing would we like?
Post by: Seriphyn on 16 Jun 2011, 07:38
More of this post-contemporary casual stuff (some smart-casual would be nice too). Gallente clothing is on that route (trainers and t-shirts). But CCP are going with the edgy stuff first...boo.

/me stands in the corner in his dark trenchcoat.
Title: Re: Dressing our dolls: what clothing would we like?
Post by: Horatius Caul on 16 Jun 2011, 08:06
Proper business suits.
Title: Re: Dressing our dolls: what clothing would we like?
Post by: Saede Riordan on 16 Jun 2011, 09:00
I gotta agree with Mata that the last thing I think my character would do after leaving pod would be put on uncomfortable fashion clothing. She'd be wearing comfortable sweats that were nice and soft and fuzzy on the inside.
Title: Re: Dressing our dolls: what clothing would we like?
Post by: Lyn Farel on 16 Jun 2011, 10:11
- Laboratory stuff. I want that damn jacket (http://sc2armory.com/files/wiki/ariel-hanson.jpg).

- Haoris and kimonos-like stuff (especially haoris).
Title: Re: Dressing our dolls: what clothing would we like?
Post by: Seriphyn on 16 Jun 2011, 12:39
I'd like to see them break it down bloodline-by-bloodline (or faction to faction at least). To know what RL clothes are associated with whatever faction's culture (though, futurized I imagine).

Like...this sorta stuff here (http://www.flickr.com/photos/eveonline/2706680341/)
Title: Re: Dressing our dolls: what clothing would we like?
Post by: Saede Riordan on 16 Jun 2011, 13:40
I'd like to see them break it down bloodline-by-bloodline (or faction to faction at least). To know what RL clothes are associated with whatever faction's culture (though, futurized I imagine).

Like...this sorta stuff here (http://www.flickr.com/photos/eveonline/2706680341/)

I would hate that immensely.
Title: Re: Dressing our dolls: what clothing would we like?
Post by: Victoria Stecker on 16 Jun 2011, 13:42
I would hate that immensely.

it would be neat to know that certain clothes are associated with different cultures. However, if different clothes are limited to different races/bloodlines like the way haircuts are (wtf?) then, well....  :bash:
Title: Re: Dressing our dolls: what clothing would we like?
Post by: Morwen Lagann on 16 Jun 2011, 13:52
Clothing and hairstyles being limited to specific races/bloodlines has already caused a bit of an outcry of "WTF WHY SO STUPID" on the forums. I would hope that CCP takes the hint and doesn't limit Noble Exchange purchases in a similar fashion.
Title: Re: Dressing our dolls: what clothing would we like?
Post by: Seriphyn on 16 Jun 2011, 13:56
It definitely doesn't appear that the Noble Exchange is limited to bloodlines, no, but I was more referring to whether we would see Intaki robes, and all such things.

I mean, just like IRL, it's not all about t-shirts and spaghetti strap tops. Though, it might just be an aspect of the capsuleer culture.
Title: Re: Dressing our dolls: what clothing would we like?
Post by: Louella Dougans on 16 Jun 2011, 14:43
Stockings, shorts, better shoes, halter-tops, waist length jackets, ankle length jackets, ankle length silk dresses with and without a side slash, to allow a flash of leg, also those Chinese-style ones with the high collars and the fabulous dragon embroidery and stuff, waistcoats, corsets, sports outfits, rollerskates, space suits and translucent glassy dresses with voice-activated holo-projectors.

And hats. Lots of hats. Wide brims, ten-galon hats, sun hats, peaked hats, space-helmets.

all with options for corporation logos and stuff.
Title: Re: Dressing our dolls: what clothing would we like?
Post by: Crucifire on 16 Jun 2011, 14:51
Intaki robes, and all such things.
These! Not that I'm particularly fond of the Intaki (space elves blegh) but their robes are the type of clothing my character would wear at this time for a couple reasons. Seeing more cultural variety across all the bloodlines would certainly be nice, and not restricting them to those bloodlines would be even nicer.

Also, bring back the Sebiestor guy hair.
Title: Re: Dressing our dolls: what clothing would we like?
Post by: Valdezi on 16 Jun 2011, 15:10
Intaki robes.
Title: Re: Dressing our dolls: what clothing would we like?
Post by: Ember Vykos on 16 Jun 2011, 15:36
Intaki robes would be cool. For just running around in you quarters I would like to have comfortable sweats/yoga pants and some nice flip flops. Even a no shoes option since in most of my RP in HQ and in my head Simca doesn't really wear shoes around her room.
Title: Re: Dressing our dolls: what clothing would we like?
Post by: Casiella on 16 Jun 2011, 15:46
I would be so happy if yoga pants were available at some point. But what I really want are business tunics (http://www.eveonline.com/races/catchoftheday/?pp=background,stories).
Title: Re: Dressing our dolls: what clothing would we like?
Post by: Saede Riordan on 16 Jun 2011, 15:54
It definitely doesn't appear that the Noble Exchange is limited to bloodlines, no, but I was more referring to whether we would see Intaki robes, and all such things.

I mean, just like IRL, it's not all about t-shirts and spaghetti strap tops. Though, it might just be an aspect of the capsuleer culture.

I would have no issue with seeing things like that Seri...as long as its not "only intaki's can wear this" because that would be stupid.
Title: Re: Dressing our dolls: what clothing would we like?
Post by: Seriphyn on 16 Jun 2011, 16:01
I suspect we can tell what origins a piece of clothing has by the designer in the Showinfo for each Noble Exchange item. For example, there is "Vallou", which is presumably Gallentean.
Title: Re: Dressing our dolls: what clothing would we like?
Post by: Lyn Farel on 16 Jun 2011, 16:56
I forgot ammatar clothes.
Title: Re: Dressing our dolls: what clothing would we like?
Post by: Kyoko Sakoda on 16 Jun 2011, 16:58
I got lucky. What my character wears right now is pretty damn close to what I thought she would. I'd like to see more business suits and dresses, though.
Title: Re: Dressing our dolls: what clothing would we like?
Post by: Z.Sinraali on 16 Jun 2011, 19:11
- Laboratory stuff. I want that damn jacket (http://sc2armory.com/files/wiki/ariel-hanson.jpg).

Seconding lab coats.
Title: Re: Dressing our dolls: what clothing would we like?
Post by: Saana on 17 Jun 2011, 14:18
Needs a little black dress that doesn't look like it's made of latex.
Title: Re: Dressing our dolls: what clothing would we like?
Post by: Louella Dougans on 17 Jun 2011, 14:19
Needs a little black dress that doesn't look like it's made of latex.

CCP realises people want non-latex dresses, implements spandex ones as well.

People go  :|
Title: Re: Dressing our dolls: what clothing would we like?
Post by: BloodBird on 17 Jun 2011, 15:05
Intaki robes, and all such things.
Intaki (space elves blegh)

Please justify this view-point?

As for my toon's clothing options I happen to *like* my old Intaki robes/hair options. This sad excuse I'm forced to look at these days is not an Intaki as I knew him. The little IC toon in my hear is also majorly pissed his traditionalist tastes are forced into the gutter and replaced with the mono-cultured run-of-the-mill standard stuff you see today. I'm all for a wide variety of clothing options for CQ/Incarna/2d avatar pictures but coem on... a far wider selection would be great along with different selections that are TYPICALLY used by specific blood-lines. I'd love to see not only my oldest toon use the clothes he loves but for his Gallente compadre to wear them too if she please, or for, say, letting a Deteis wear Imperial clothing options because this deteis is devout and a member of the 24th IC, for example.

Yeah, I'd love that.
Title: Re: Dressing our dolls: what clothing would we like?
Post by: Saikoyu on 17 Jun 2011, 15:31
I would love it if they put in all of the clothing from the old character creator, so we could have Caldari shoulder fins, or whatever those things were.  And the skimpy Gallente dresses and the welded together Minmatar outfits (not that Sai would be caught dead in those of course).

In a more general way, I'll keep up my cry for dresses, real floor length no way to run in this without hitching it up dresses.  And robes for women, or hoods and cloaks.  Any loose flappy clothing really. 

Also I could see armor, and maybe weapons, for cerimonial types of things.  Like for Khanid Cyberknights, that screams for some armor at least.  Honor daggers, family swords, those could fit in too. 

And of course have nothing be dependant on race to wear, so Minmatar can jear at Gallente who have no idea they are wearing the same outfit as Minmatar toilet cleaners or something. 
Title: Re: Dressing our dolls: what clothing would we like?
Post by: Esna Pitoojee on 17 Jun 2011, 16:06
I agree with Mata's sentiment regarding loose robe-like things. Think... *Horrible nerd blush.* ...Jedi robes. I seriously don't have another way to describe something between the oversized blankets masquerading as clothes currently on the server and a bathrobe.
Title: Re: Dressing our dolls: what clothing would we like?
Post by: Louella Dougans on 17 Jun 2011, 16:14
I agree with Mata's sentiment regarding loose robe-like things. Think... *Horrible nerd blush.* ...Jedi robes. I seriously don't have another way to describe something between the oversized blankets masquerading as clothes currently on the server and a bathrobe.

It's a Slanket (http://www.theslanket.com/), a blanket with sleeves? :o
Title: Re: Dressing our dolls: what clothing would we like?
Post by: Senn Typhos on 17 Jun 2011, 16:18
I agree with Mata's sentiment regarding loose robe-like things. Think... *Horrible nerd blush.* ...Jedi robes. I seriously don't have another way to describe something between the oversized blankets masquerading as clothes currently on the server and a bathrobe.

It's a Slanket (http://www.theslanket.com/), a blanket with sleeves? :o

You mean the Snuggie (http://www.mysnuggiestore.com/?tag=im|sm|go|tm&a_aid=011&a_bid=bc305a78)?
Title: Re: Dressing our dolls: what clothing would we like?
Post by: Esna Pitoojee on 17 Jun 2011, 19:35
I agree with Mata's sentiment regarding loose robe-like things. Think... *Horrible nerd blush.* ...Jedi robes. I seriously don't have another way to describe something between the oversized blankets masquerading as clothes currently on the server and a bathrobe.

It's a Slanket (http://www.theslanket.com/), a blanket with sleeves? :o

You mean the Snuggie (http://www.mysnuggiestore.com/?tag=im|sm|go|tm&a_aid=011&a_bid=bc305a78)?

Yeah... pretty much. I mean, they look like wedding dresses with the trails they have! While I can imagine that some Amarr (higher-caste Holders) might use that just for show, I'd also expect that lesser Holders and maybe even commoners might have something similar, but that, you know, one could actually be useful for working in too (much like how elaborate royal court suits eventually spawned today's relatively multipurpose business suit).
Title: Re: Dressing our dolls: what clothing would we like?
Post by: Senn Typhos on 17 Jun 2011, 19:42
Whoever capitalizes on the EVE version of a snuggie is gonna be an IC monolith in the open markets.

We could call it the... Passive Repper? Iunno, I'm not good at branding.
Title: Re: Dressing our dolls: what clothing would we like?
Post by: Hamish Grayson on 17 Jun 2011, 20:15
Updated versions of all the clothes we had in the first character creator.  Seriously, were is mah Civire steel chest piece or that weird metal thing on our shoulders and it's corresponding bandolier.   How am I supposed to space swagger without my bandolier!

(http://www.eve-wiki.net/images/thumb/c/cd/Civire-Male.jpg/150px-Civire-Male.jpg)
Title: Re: Dressing our dolls: what clothing would we like?
Post by: Z.Sinraali on 17 Jun 2011, 20:55
Robo-parrot. The shoulder thing is a robo-parrot.
Title: Re: Dressing our dolls: what clothing would we like?
Post by: Jekaterine on 19 Jun 2011, 12:10
Unless they've changed things again I believe they stated somewhere that not even the basic clothes we get at the start will be permanent but we'll end up in hospital gowns unless we decide to Microtransact something or buy it through market after someone has MT:d.

Therefore I really,really,really want a good looking hospital gown as that's what I'll end up wearing. Padding barefoot through the stations wearing just that.
Title: Re: Dressing our dolls: what clothing would we like?
Post by: Katrina Oniseki on 19 Jun 2011, 14:42
Unless they've changed things again I believe they stated somewhere that not even the basic clothes we get at the start will be permanent but we'll end up in hospital gowns unless we decide to Microtransact something or buy it through market after someone has MT:d.

Therefore I really,really,really want a good looking hospital gown as that's what I'll end up wearing. Padding barefoot through the stations wearing just that.

Can you imagine the rage people will throw at CCP for that?

I plan to MT some clothing anyways though. Those Jin-Mei robes and that Deteis business suit & cane thing? More of that. Make it publicly available to all races of course, but... I would really like themed outfits.
Title: Re: Dressing our dolls: what clothing would we like?
Post by: Matariki Rain on 19 Jun 2011, 14:55
Leaving aside the microtransactions discussion, I'd like to see a "Standard range" -- possibly themed by race/bloodline -- and an "Extended range" which includes access to the "other" items which aren't part of your bloodline's standard set. Just make that an extra click at the end of the slider or something.

This way you can encourage the general flavour of a particular culture while allowing those who identify with a culture that's not their bloodline to show that identification.
Title: Re: Dressing our dolls: what clothing would we like?
Post by: orange on 19 Jun 2011, 20:42
- Laboratory stuff. I want that damn jacket (http://sc2armory.com/files/wiki/ariel-hanson.jpg).
Do want!

"Welcome to LDIS, here is your lab coat!"
Title: Re: Dressing our dolls: what clothing would we like?
Post by: Moolti on 19 Jun 2011, 21:19
I'm Gallente, I wear high couture fashion.  So I want dresses, dangly earings, stockings, etc.

Mostly I want color.  Everything is currently a shade of brown.  Where is my neon green, purple, yellow, where is my clear plastic stuff the Gallente used to have?

Basically I want this stuff: http://ajmstilt.deviantart.com/favourites/44677099 (http://ajmstilt.deviantart.com/favourites/44677099)

Title: Re: Dressing our dolls: what clothing would we like?
Post by: Matariki Rain on 19 Jun 2011, 22:44
I can resist no longer. Each time I see one of our other thread titles I read it as:

Quote
"Star Fraction in Plaid: Now what?"

I really want to see the Tartan Terrorists now.
Title: Re: Dressing our dolls: what clothing would we like?
Post by: GoGo Yubari on 20 Jun 2011, 04:30
I'm Gallente, I wear high couture fashion.  So I want dresses, dangly earings, stockings, etc.

Mostly I want color.  Everything is currently a shade of brown.  Where is my neon green, purple, yellow, where is my clear plastic stuff the Gallente used to have?

Basically I want this stuff: http://ajmstilt.deviantart.com/favourites/44677099 (http://ajmstilt.deviantart.com/favourites/44677099)

Yeah, seconded. The clothing at the moment mostly looks like it was designed by nerds for nerds. It doesn't reflect what I'd expect to find in the setting outside of cargo holds and server rooms.

Title: Re: Dressing our dolls: what clothing would we like?
Post by: Morwen Lagann on 20 Jun 2011, 14:58
I can resist no longer. Each time I see one of our other thread titles I read it as:

Quote
"Star Fraction in Plaid: Now what?"

I really want to see the Tartan Terrorists now.

And now I have to resist the temptation to actually re-name the thread... goddamnit, Mata. :lol:
Title: Re: Dressing our dolls: what clothing would we like?
Post by: Saede Riordan on 20 Jun 2011, 20:55
I rather want brown leather and lacing and goggles and other steampunk accoutrements.
Title: Re: Dressing our dolls: what clothing would we like?
Post by: Casiella on 20 Jun 2011, 20:58
Nikita, I personally would rather see steampunk looks in a steampunk game, rather than a transhumanist post-cyberpunk spaceship grimdark world.
Title: Re: Dressing our dolls: what clothing would we like?
Post by: Ciarente on 21 Jun 2011, 00:58
I want better hair options ... and for the female avatars to have the same metallic plate/implant options the men have.
Title: Re: Dressing our dolls: what clothing would we like?
Post by: lallara zhuul on 21 Jun 2011, 01:18
It's weird, with Champions online and Cov/CoH just a few dozen options in several different categories and free choices of colouring and whatnot the players have come up with the most imaginable (and stereotypical) visions on what their character would look like.

Such customization from a game that is several generations behind Incarna is quite enviable.

Of course CCP has never let players actually generate the toys that they play within their sandbox.
It is just much more immersion breaking in Incarna.

Just having different colour options of the same piece of clothing as different objects pretty much shows that there could be a lot more improvement in the customization of the content so that they players would actually feel empowered by the choices they made, instead of looking like a generic capsuleerCaldari01987.

Then for the OP.

Robes with movable hood.
Sandals, simple dresses that cover her from neck to ankle.
And a Khumaak.
The Amarrians must take it back.
Title: Re: Dressing our dolls: what clothing would we like?
Post by: Katrina Oniseki on 23 Jun 2011, 13:23
I must say I am sorely disappointed with the fashion available currently. It's downright hideous. Bleh!
Title: Re: Dressing our dolls: what clothing would we like?
Post by: Aria Jenneth on 23 Jun 2011, 13:35
I must say I am sorely disappointed with the fashion available currently. It's downright hideous. Bleh!

A large percentage of it is very Caldari (conservative, militaristic), but may be inappropriate for other nationalities. Hopefully that'll all get fleshed out over time.

As an aside, I keep eyeing that skirt. There's no rule that you have to wear it with the military jacket, and black is oh so very much Aria's color....

(I think the monocle is going to be the domain of the "hi there, I run a major alliance" set, if anyone. Istvaan is probably the only regular here who can contemplate its price tag without grimacing.)
Title: Re: Dressing our dolls: what clothing would we like?
Post by: Seriphyn on 23 Jun 2011, 13:39
Actually, I'm not even sure any of it is Caldari, Aria. It's all faction-neutral (CCP going for this universal vibe with their IP), with the military shirts/blouses being "modelled off of the Class B blouses currently used by many modern navies" (hm, so everyone uses the same uniform now?). Even the Field Marshal jacket is designed by "Vallou", which sounds Gallentean to me even if it looks more Caldari, while the other designers are Sennda of Emrayur and a House of Ranoi.

Still, all pretty dull atm. Split things down into the four factions and bloodlines. And this (http://i660.photobucket.com/albums/uu328/Seriphyn/CQveditor.png) IMO is far better than anything on NEX and it's free. At least it has character.
Title: Re: Dressing our dolls: what clothing would we like?
Post by: Aria Jenneth on 23 Jun 2011, 13:46
Actually, I'm not even sure any of it is Caldari, Aria. It's all faction-neutral (CCP going for this universal vibe with their IP), with the military shirts/blouses being "modelled off of the Class B blouses currently used by many modern navies" (hm, so everyone uses the same uniform now?).

In terms of what it's supposed to be, I'm sure you're right.

In terms of which race looks most PF-appropriate when dressed in it, however....

Let's just say that when it comes to finding clothes for Aria, I have no complaints.
Title: Re: Dressing our dolls: what clothing would we like?
Post by: Morwen Lagann on 23 Jun 2011, 13:48
Actually, at least one of the designers is Amarrian: Sennda of Emrayur. Of the other two, Vallou sounds Gallentean, and "House of Ranai" I'm not sure on.

As for what each sells...

Sennda of Emrayur:
- Men's 'Commando' Pants (all colors)
- Men's 'Sterling' Dress Shirt' (all colors)
- Men's 'Trench' Boots
- Women's 'Mystrioso' Boots
- Women's 'Sterling' Dress Blouse (all colors)

House of Ranai:
- Men's 'Lockstep' Boots
- Men's 'Esquire' Coat
- Women's 'Executor' Coat
- Women's 'Greave' Knee-Boots
- Women's 'Impress' Skirt (all colors)

Vallou:
- Men's 'Field Marshal' Coat
- Men's 'Precision' Boots
- Women's 'Excursion' Pants (all colors)
- Women's 'Minima' Heels
- Women's 'Structure' Skirt (all colors)
Title: Re: Dressing our dolls: what clothing would we like?
Post by: Chowda on 28 Jun 2011, 16:26
I'd like to see every single design they come up with tinted and/or colored in 20-30 different styles (especially tops) and offered at 1/10th the current prices.  It would be the path of least resistance in getting everyone the chance to be unique.  From there, they can offer truly premium clothing.  Examples of each I would like to see:

Non-Premium:  Berets, business suits, lab coats, militia uniforms, ragged clothes, mechanic jumpers.

Premium:  Empress gown, npc corporation uniforms, pirate hipster tee shirts, chains, pouch with minidog, military dress uniforms (not the working uniforms offered now, more like the cloak on SiSi) 


And truth be told, I may pick up some Aurum when that executor dress comes out.  That thing is sharp!
 

Title: Re: Dressing our dolls: what clothing would we like?
Post by: Andreus Ixiris on 29 Jun 2011, 14:19
I want for all current clothing and hairstyle options to be available on all races.

That is all.
Title: Re: Dressing our dolls: what clothing would we like?
Post by: Matariki Rain on 29 Jun 2011, 15:37
I want for all current clothing and hairstyle options to be available on all races.

That is all.

I've thought about this quite a bit.

I'd like to have a basic menu of options and an extended menu which you have to click on a second button at the end of the selector to get to.

The basic menu would have whatever's considered the default set plus the culture-specific items for your original ethnicity.

The extended range would include the full set of items, including all the things you might pick up in your travels around the cluster. Ideally, the items would include some indication of their origins and significances.

An Ammatar should be able to adopt Ammarian styles, and a Gallente-gone-native-Matari should be able to adopt Matari styles (and possibly offend people in precisely the way described in a certain .sig here).

(Given that most Matari don't live in the Republic, it would also be nice to be able to pick a background that reflects a Gallente, Amarrian or Ammatar background, but I suspect that's more effort for CCP and confusion for new players than it's worth.)