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Title: Most Wanted: Character Archetypes
Post by: Ché Biko on 04 Aug 2014, 08:33
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I've noticed some desire for certain character archetypes that are "missing" or underrepresented in the EVE RP landscape. Stuff like people saying that they would like to see another Blood Raider ala Silas Vitalia, or that there's sadly nobody playing a certain type of Caldari or that there are not enough Serpentis characters being played.

Here you inform people who are thinking about creating a new char about which kind of characters would be most benificial for a diverse and interesting RP landscape. You can also provide tips on how you think the character should be portrayed in order to be most effective in doing so, and what potential pitfalls should be avoided and how.

You can vote (10 times) for archetypes already listed, or nominate a new one, and I'll likely add it to the list.

Unpopular nominees may be removed after some time (remember to come back to vote for your nominees once I've added them), and I might perform a vote reset upon request when the list has changed.
Title: Re: Most Wanted: Character Archetypes
Post by: Lyn Farel on 04 Aug 2014, 09:53
That's a good idea.
Title: Re: Most Wanted: Character Archetypes
Post by: Anyanka Funk on 04 Aug 2014, 10:26
I vote Blood Raider of course. But was Silas a Bleeder or just a Sani Sabik? From my experience, there are a lot of conflicting beliefs within the Sani Sabik community. Like, according to Sanguina Dieudonne, that one must believe in red god to be Sani Sabik. Or like according to the Source and Omir Sarikusa's regime, all that is required to be Sani Sabik is to have your name in the Covenant's Book of the Dead. There are a ton of other subtleties as well between known capsuleer Sani Sabik sects and the Blood Raider Covenant, but maybe that would need its own thread.

Are you, Che, going to be playing this role? Or whoever is to play the role, will you decide to have yet another Sani Sabik sect with its own beliefs or work for the current Blood Raider regime in Delve?
Title: Re: Most Wanted: Character Archetypes
Post by: Dessau on 04 Aug 2014, 10:37
A lot of recent comments on the board here seem to suggest that the current RP community is a bit fragmented, with small, specialized groups developing content amongst themselves. We now have established and larger groups U'K and PIE heating up the south, but mostly there are smaller enclaves who do not necessarily interact much, I think. Someone please correct me on that if I am mistaken; there may be larger-scale activities worthy of mention not on my radar.

That said, some things I haven't seen yet in my short time in the community are:

Mercing might be tough since that is heavily slanted to fleet PvP, so RP would likely be secondary. Since we can't actually get a State NPC corp added to the CEP, it would be more in-game moving and shaking to elevate that corp's profile. The only vocal Thukker I have seen is Karyn Denton (sp?), who does active drug production out of Metropolis, but there are Thukker agents to support standings and LP, afaik.

I guess my concern is further fracturing of an already small percentage of the community, but I agree people should play whatever interests them. The key might be to find ways to get smaller niche groups aligned with or against one another.
Title: Re: Most Wanted: Character Archetypes
Post by: Odelya on 04 Aug 2014, 10:52
More Khanids (who don’t go Angel or Sabik after three months!)!
Ammatar guys!
Jin-Mei folks!
{Intellectual (sic!) Minmatar} cultural anthropologists studying the civilisations of EVE!

[And please: I feel very lonely at the Tetrimon front!]
Title: Re: Most Wanted: Character Archetypes
Post by: Dessau on 04 Aug 2014, 10:59
I do have a Khanid alt, but I am shite at proper Amarr RP...

...also, seconding Jin-Mei.

Edit: removed class-less self plug. :|
Title: Re: Most Wanted: Character Archetypes
Post by: Lyn Farel on 04 Aug 2014, 12:40
One of the few types of characters I have yet to see - which means that I have not seen in my 6+ years of eve - are lesser bloodlines like :

- Mannar : fucking hawkish mannar federals that tell the caldari reclaimers to stfu, after all, the mannar burnt down their planet to the ground like baws. Why u cyring for your home planet caldari ?  :P
- Udorian : tash murkonites with clear and reclaimed udorian ancestry.
- Ealurian : harsh to play I guess.  :lol:
- Nefantars (republic loyalists).

Sorry for those that actually played such characters for not having met them.

But more seriously, maybe already focusing on key archetypes that are lacking instead of obscure ones might be a good idea ?
Title: Re: Most Wanted: Character Archetypes
Post by: Nicoletta Mithra on 04 Aug 2014, 13:33
But more seriously, maybe already focusing on key archetypes that are lacking instead of obscure ones might be a good idea ?
+1
Title: Re: Most Wanted: Character Archetypes
Post by: Katrina Oniseki on 04 Aug 2014, 18:47
Postmodern Activist

With Activist supposedly a Gallentean starting trait, why are the only ones we see fighting slavery? Why not a Drone Rights activist? Why not a Bodymodder Rights activist? Why not a Clone Rights activist? What about Pro-Human(anti-clone) Activists, or whatever?
Title: Re: Most Wanted: Character Archetypes
Post by: Laurentis Thiesant on 05 Aug 2014, 00:58
Postmodern Activist

With Activist supposedly a Gallentean starting trait, why are the only ones we see fighting slavery? Why not a Drone Rights activist? Why not a Bodymodder Rights activist? Why not a Clone Rights activist? What about Pro-Human(anti-clone) Activists, or whatever?

Booster rights isn't good enough for you? Pfft.
Title: Re: Most Wanted: Character Archetypes
Post by: Ché Biko on 05 Aug 2014, 11:10
Are you, Che, going to be playing this role? Or whoever is to play the role, will you decide to have yet another Sani Sabik sect with its own beliefs or work for the current Blood Raider regime in Delve?
Well, I do have a couple ideas for characters that are inspired by the Vampire: The Masquerade paths of enlightenment, but considering two believers of the same faith still have differing beliefs, I see no reason why that can't be compatible with working for the Blood Raiders. But it's not likely I'll do this anytime soon, as picking this part to play would require doing some homework, and I don't think I'm willing to make that investment just yet.

[..] some things I haven't seen yet in my short time in the community are:
  • Cohesive capsuleer mercenary organization
I don't know if you've heard of Stormcrows, but I thought they were kind of mercenary? Anyway, I'm not sure if an organization really counts as a character... :|

But more seriously, maybe already focusing on key archetypes that are lacking instead of obscure ones might be a good idea ?
Right! You are welcome to nominate those as well. Most Wanted is Most Wanted, wether it is Frrrozen Haute Chocolate or a nice pizza.

Also, I thought I enabled 10 votes p.p., but..I guess not? Anyway, I wanted to change the # of votes p.p. to like 45, but it appears that is the one thing you can't modify. :( Perhaps a Mod or Admin can help out?
Title: Re: Most Wanted: Character Archetypes
Post by: Dessau on 05 Aug 2014, 11:42
I don't know if you've heard of Stormcrows, but I thought they were kind of mercenary? Anyway, I'm not sure if an organization really counts as a character... :|

Point well taken, only in certain countries are corporations considered people. Also, thanks for the info about Stormcrows,  I was unaware of their mercenary status.
Title: Re: Most Wanted: Character Archetypes
Post by: Lyn Farel on 05 Aug 2014, 13:17
Right! You are welcome to nominate those as well. Most Wanted is Most Wanted, wether it is Frrrozen Haute Chocolate or a nice pizza.

I sadly lack an up to date topological overview of the RP community since I have not been ingame for long.
Title: Re: Most Wanted: Character Archetypes
Post by: Havohej on 05 Aug 2014, 16:57
Also, I thought I enabled 10 votes p.p., but..I guess not? Anyway, I wanted to change the # of votes p.p. to like 45, but it appears that is the one thing you can't modify. :( Perhaps a Mod or Admin can help out?
Set votes per user to 10.  Did you really mean 45, or did you mean 4 or 5?  I don't know that you can have more votes than there are options... am confuse.
Title: Re: Most Wanted: Character Archetypes
Post by: Ché Biko on 05 Aug 2014, 17:26
Well, considering the number of options is likely to go up and down a bit, and with the new knowledge that I can't alter the # of votes each time, I figured it best to set it to a number that it probably would not reach. But I think you're right, and the max # of posts is tied to the options, so I guess 10 votes is fine.

Yes people, a decrease in options is possible, if, after some time, there's like only one vote for them, or none at all, if you don't vote for your own nominees. After all, this is about the MOST wanted. Also, because the list is not set in stone, I may do a vote reset upon request until it stabilizes.
Title: Re: Most Wanted: Character Archetypes
Post by: Arnulf Ogunkoya on 05 Aug 2014, 17:35
Arnulf is supposed to be the intellectual Minmatar of which you speak. When he isn't flying he studies comparative religion and the current state of archeology. Both planet based & astroarcheology.

It's just I rarely find someone who is interested in chatting about such things.
Title: Re: Most Wanted: Character Archetypes
Post by: Lyn Farel on 06 Aug 2014, 03:33
Archaeology ! If I had known.... :/
Title: Re: Most Wanted: Character Archetypes
Post by: Jikahr on 06 Sep 2014, 19:16
Arnulf is supposed to be the intellectual Minmatar of which you speak. When he isn't flying he studies comparative religion and the current state of archeology. Both planet based & astroarcheology.

It's just I rarely find someone who is interested in chatting about such things.

Which is sort of the problem with roleplay and combat. We never see the Minmatar Brutors when are calm and intellectual such as Dr. Bruce Banner, only when they are all furiously mad like the Incredible Hulk (in a Rifter!)

I have had some good roleplay with the Minmatar when I was in Faction war. However, it was pretty rare. When you find an enemy that wants to RP, you have to dock up and talk in local. You can't focus on typing up dialogue and activate your ship modules at the same time.

-Blood Raider ala Silas: For some reason when I first started I thought that Blood Raiders were kind of hokey. However, I think what Naupilus has done with them is genius! Of course, I am only just now aware that there are many Blood Raiders with well developed stories and character backgrounds. I remember plenty of pirates when I was in Faction war, but none of them were interested in roleplay.

-Thukker Aligned Capsuleer: Having learned more about the Thukkers makes me wish sometimes that I chose to play them instead of Amarr. I like their gypsy like philosophy of carrying everything with them from one star system to another. I suppose if no one else is playing a Thukker though, I would feel pretty darned lonely. An Amarrian loyalist in FW was a pretty broad career path.

Caldari State loyalists pushing for a smaller State-aligned corp to make CEP

I would like to see this happen. Perhaps a constellation could be conquered from the other Faction during Faction War?

Interestingly, there is a settlement of ex-patriot Caldaris that live in the Khanid kingdom. (Khaldari). In my mind at least, I imagine them to be like American ex-pats living in Europe during the war, sitting in cafes and perhaps even opening up some local businesses. In other words, still Caldari in culture, but unhappy enough with the State to want to leave it.

Since there are rumors of rebellion against the Empire brewing in the Khanid state, perhaps the Provists could find a home there now that there are arrest warrants out for Tibus Heth. The Khanid and Provists do share a kind of right wing fanaticism and hatred for 'Liberalism'.

Other than that, there is Null sec?

More Khanids (who don’t go Angel or Sabik after three months!)!

Well, Naupilus is a Khanid. He went for at least a year before he went Sanik.

Khanids have interesting bloodlines, such as Zealot and Cyber-Knights. I am somewhat surprised that so few people choose Cyber-Knights.

Ammatar guys!

It would be good to see more Ammatar characters being worked out. I think it's a bit confusing on character creation though. Should the Ammatar be considered 'Amarr'? In order to be an Ammatar character, you have to start off in Minmatar space at the Republic schools, only to somehow come across the Ammatar culture. There isn't much appeal to it either. If you want to fly Amarr ships, why chose a Minmatar and vice versa?

Jin-Mei folks!
I would like to see some more spiritual Caldari, that's for sure.

Mannar : fucking hawkish mannar federals...
Udorian : tash murkonites with clear and reclaimed udorian ancestry.
Ealurian:

A bit off topic but I wonder why all of the humanoids of EVE are well, of Terrestrial origin? I haven't heard of any of the green skinned or blue skinned people that are a staple of other science fiction stories. Why is it a war between four ancient Earth cultures, and not the Terrans against say, a reptilian race of humanoids or something? Would that be too cliche?

Nefantars (republic loyalists)

Gallentean activist not fighting slavery:


Would this mean they were more pro-slavery or just indifferent? I did meet a Gallente who moved to Jita right away (still on a trial subscription). He was very professional and businesslike in his roleplay. He claimed to move from the Federation since it disgusted him, and he promptly applied for membership in the Caldari state.

I tend to think of Gallente state as something like Barbarella meets the Jetsons. It's a place full of sin, sex, drugs and decadence, the place where all the spandex utopianism of the Science Fiction of 1970s went. I also imagine it's like Clockwork Orange in the bad neighbourhoods.
Title: Re: Most Wanted: Character Archetypes
Post by: Karynn on 07 Sep 2014, 01:39
I suppose if no one else is playing a Thukker though, I would feel pretty darned lonely.

*waves*  :)
I'm happy I can fill this niche and I hope I'm doing it right, or near enough!
Far from trying to emulate one of the Great Caravans, mine represents a lesser, renegade offshoot, inspired by the last paragraph of this article: http://community.testeveonline.com/news/news-channels/eve-online-news/thukker-views-on-joining-republic-vary-wildly-real-autonomy-demanded/

As far as the othet Most Wanteds go, I'd love to see Nefantar characters; would be interesting to see how other tribes and the imperials would react to them. I think you'd get the full range from outright hostility to compassion... shun them or win them over?

I'm also curious as to how other players view the factions where there is very little established lore; do you see it as prohibitive, or a blank canvas where you're free to paint your own vision?
Title: Re: Most Wanted: Character Archetypes
Post by: Lyn Farel on 07 Sep 2014, 02:40

Ammatar guys!

It would be good to see more Ammatar characters being worked out. I think it's a bit confusing on character creation though. Should the Ammatar be considered 'Amarr'? In order to be an Ammatar character, you have to start off in Minmatar space at the Republic schools, only to somehow come across the Ammatar culture. There isn't much appeal to it either. If you want to fly Amarr ships, why chose a Minmatar and vice versa?

Having played that road for more than 6 years I can actually state that it is an incredibly interesting but also very frustrating RP to do. It is interesting because the Ammatar in themselves are one of the richest and conflicting minor faction around (with their special Holder status, privileges, and their history of collaborators, tainted by a lot of Nefantar culture). So yes, it's damn interesting to play and the relationship with Amarr players is always source of interesting stuff, either they go well along (like Samira and PIE Inc), or either they conflict all along like it was for me and some folks back in the days in Ammatar Free Corps.

What was always extremely frustrating was the gameplay that limited all of that at every turn. And the lore in the end too.

Gameplay because as you say, the starting school had to be explained ICly, and the most annoying thing, the bloodline written in black on white in the character show info. Well, for the school it was possible, but for the bloodline, it was just "CONCORD made a mistake DERP". But anyway most people were pretty fine to get along with it, that was kind of a relief.

And lore wise, well... TEA half killed the Ammatar lore tbh, and what happened next completely finished it off imo. The removed everything that made the Ammatar standing apart, and molded them into a lethargic, apathetic puppet with no soul and identity.

A bit similar to what happened to the Caldari, but unlike for the Caldari, it never got fixed, and probably never will. :/
Title: Re: Most Wanted: Character Archetypes
Post by: Samira Kernher on 07 Sep 2014, 04:47
There isn't much appeal to it either. If you want to fly Amarr ships, why chose a Minmatar and vice versa?

Because for some of us the appeal wasn't, "I want to fly Amarr ships." It instead was, "I want the experience of being a Minmatar loyal to the Amarr." The ships don't really matter much for me.

Though in my case it's being an Amarrian Minmatar rather than an actual Ammatar.

The school/starting location thing is definitely an issue, and honestly I wish CCP would redo that bit. You should ideally choose race first, then faction loyalty second. Or they could add factional ancestry options--IE Minmatar characters could have 'Amarr' or 'Gallente' ancestry, which permit access to the Amarr or Gallente schools respectively if picked.


As far as what was done to the Ammatar in lore though... I still think the biggest issue to it isn't what was done but how it was handled, as is the case with a lot of TEA-era stuff. Rather than being an opportunity for internal cultural conflict (though we did get some of this with the Man of Values and Faith chronicle), it was unfortunately used instead as an excuse to just sweep the whole faction under the rug of the greater Amarr bloc.
Title: Re: Most Wanted: Character Archetypes
Post by: Lyn Farel on 07 Sep 2014, 08:46
Pretty much. CCP usual news and lore pieces take a great care to include different sides and views to most of them. Like the shooting of Midular with both sides presenting different arguments and conflicting over the same thing.

But in the case of the Ammatar, instead of being a matter of conflict between imperialist control freak movements that want to see the sheep back into the herd and privileged ammatars knocked out by TEA events with individuals trying to get everything back in one piece, we literally got an Ardishapur annexation and nothing else. Not a word from Ammatars. Not even a damn word about other major houses on the matter, like it is anyway everytime the case when some heir does something. It's like they never comment on each others things and politics.
Title: Re: Most Wanted: Character Archetypes
Post by: Nmaro Makari on 07 Sep 2014, 10:41
Did someone say Intellectual Minmatar? 

*slaps elbow patches on tweed space suit*
Title: Re: Most Wanted: Character Archetypes
Post by: Arnulf Ogunkoya on 07 Sep 2014, 12:52
A bit off topic but I wonder why all of the humanoids of EVE are well, of Terrestrial origin? I haven't heard of any of the green skinned or blue skinned people that are a staple of other science fiction stories. Why is it a war between four ancient Earth cultures, and not the Terrans against say, a reptilian race of humanoids or something? Would that be too cliche?

I think the idea was to break with the standard SF trope of humans vs aliens and look at conflicting human cultures instead. Plus there is the usual potential to hold a distorting mirror up to contemporary concerns. That has been a staple of decent SF & fantasy for as long as the genres have existed.
Title: Re: Most Wanted: Character Archetypes
Post by: Mizhara on 07 Sep 2014, 15:20
Where da Minneh turrists at?
Title: Re: Most Wanted: Character Archetypes
Post by: Nmaro Makari on 08 Sep 2014, 11:24
Where da Minneh turrists at?

Gently smothered with a pillow while CCP shhs softly.
Title: Re: Most Wanted: Character Archetypes
Post by: Mizhara on 08 Sep 2014, 11:27
Where da Minneh turrists at?

Gently smothered with a pillow while CCP shhs softly.

Well ain't that the trmMMMMPGHHMMPHH!
Title: Re: Most Wanted: Character Archetypes
Post by: Silas Vitalia on 08 Sep 2014, 11:39
Neat poll!

I vote UDORIAN, because I want some raised eyebrows and soft whispering amarr politicking when some uppity Udorian with pretenses to power interacts with some old-school True Amarr :P

Also Khanid.  Always more Khanid, loyal to Khanid II.

:)

Title: Re: Most Wanted: Character Archetypes
Post by: Arista Shahni on 08 Sep 2014, 11:45
/me waves small Kingdom small flag, alone, and neither an Angel or a Sabik, and a Zealot who has not Lost Her Shit.
Title: Re: Most Wanted: Character Archetypes
Post by: Lyn Farel on 08 Sep 2014, 12:47
Also Khanid.  Always more Khanid, loyal to Khanid II.

:)

Go Reclaim the hell out of your old mansion then.

Go Reclaim the WINE too. ALL THE WINE.

Well I mean, the wine that didn't burn.
Title: Re: Most Wanted: Character Archetypes
Post by: Morwen Lagann on 08 Sep 2014, 13:26
Also Khanid.  Always more Khanid, loyal to Khanid II.

:)

Go Reclaim the hell out of your old mansion then.

Go Reclaim the WINE too. ALL THE WINE.

Well I mean, the wine that didn't burn.

Last time I checked, Silas was p cool with who ended up owning all that stuff. ;)

/me waves small Kingdom small flag, alone, and neither an Angel or a Sabik, and a Zealot who has not Lost Her Shit.
^ Also am I a flag now too? Multipurpose hat, hurr hurr. :lol:
Title: Re: Most Wanted: Character Archetypes
Post by: Lyn Farel on 08 Sep 2014, 13:29
I know. It was a subtle way to tell Silas that complaining about the lack of Khanid loyalists after giving King Khanid the middle finger is amusing.  :P
Title: Re: Most Wanted: Character Archetypes
Post by: Arista Shahni on 08 Sep 2014, 14:18
Well there is an inherent difficult in locking yourself into an archetype that *never varies*.  The most vocal examples are not the only ones.  A character that never changes or grows will become inherently stagnant.  Even if its the most beautiful crystal rose or china doll of a character that's cool and awesome and whatever to everyone else in the whole wide world, never changing is also boring as hell to do.  IDK why Silas lost those award winning vineyards, but I wouldn't be surpised of part of it was Silas' player went "I feel like doing this" - whether it was inherent in background from the get-go, incorporated with hindsight masterminding (Its possible she could have been planning this all along / she's always been like this so lets shoehorn that in), or inspired by other players.

Ari can and does get boring to play.  End of story.  The fact that I am pretty officially alone in being a relatively (with a broad useage of the term relative) "mainstream" Amarrian priest to the point that Imperial Amarrians will consult her in a pinch (primarily because of the lack of Imperial priests left playing, period, who haven't swan-dived off of one deep end or another) has probably done the opposite of what it does with most people -- instead of leaving the situation because it is lonely, I'm staying because it feels necessary.

Morwen is also indeed now a Kingdom loyalist, and I believe a Kingdom resident.  The two of us have amazing tea parties.

In more disconnected sections of the Khanid RP Community I'm already hilariously aware of a few of their leanings through IC knowledge cause I've clique-hopped a bit.

But in general people want to both socialize and segregate simultaneously, therefore with 1,2 or even say 3 Khanid loyalists, "Party is small and boring, I'm leaving".
Title: Re: Most Wanted: Character Archetypes
Post by: Jace on 08 Sep 2014, 14:32
I just wanted to take this moment to say that CCP has never stopped royally fucking over the Jin-Mei and anyone who wants to roleplay one.
Title: Re: Most Wanted: Character Archetypes
Post by: Dessau on 08 Sep 2014, 15:15
I just wanted to take this moment to say that CCP has never stopped royally fucking over the Jin-Mei and anyone who wants to roleplay one.

Not empty quoting. (I voted Jin-Mei.)
Title: Re: Most Wanted: Character Archetypes
Post by: Lyn Farel on 08 Sep 2014, 15:37
Wasn't blaming Silas. The coming out of the closet was awesome.
Title: Re: Most Wanted: Character Archetypes
Post by: Steffanie Saissore on 11 Sep 2014, 04:08
I have a Khanid Cyber-Knight alt...but I don't do much with her right now because trying to come up with what being a cyber-knight means without any real helpful info got somewhat tiring when trying to also not :do it wrong:
I will likely be bringing her out a little more often, but that remains to be seen.
I also have a Jin Mei alt...the culture sounded really cool, but again, with the lack of a decent foundation, I just kind of gave up on the alt for the time being.
Title: Re: Most Wanted: Character Archetypes
Post by: Elmund Egivand on 11 Sep 2014, 05:55
I like more space cowboys.
Title: Re: Most Wanted: Character Archetypes
Post by: Jace on 11 Sep 2014, 07:11
I also have a Jin Mei alt...the culture sounded really cool, but again, with the lack of a decent foundation, I just kind of gave up on the alt for the time being.

A couple thousand times this. I put quite a lot of effort trying to get my Jin-Mei alt going but eventually got pissed enough about the lack of PF about them that I just biomassed him. I think it is the only bloodline I no longer have an alt of.
Title: Re: Most Wanted: Character Archetypes
Post by: Silas Vitalia on 11 Sep 2014, 08:49
I have a Khanid Cyber-Knight alt...but I don't do much with her right now because trying to come up with what being a cyber-knight means without any real helpful info got somewhat tiring when trying to also not :do it wrong:
I will likely be bringing her out a little more often, but that remains to be seen.
I also have a Jin Mei alt...the culture sounded really cool, but again, with the lack of a decent foundation, I just kind of gave up on the alt for the time being.

During my extremely brief time on Mercury fiction team I tried to write a detailed evelopedia entry for Khanid Cyberknights but my approach was shot down :/

Actually for my 'interview' one of my submissions was a detailed history of the initial Amarr colonization of the Khanid area up to the present time


Khanid RP had its golden time when the faction was new and they were getting fiction and events, and there were enough of us nerds in organized Khanid groups.   Having things be tense with the Empire also added a lot of spice and possibilities, before the FW fiction consolidation for all minor factions.

Ima start a thread in 'fiction' and info dump my writings!

Title: Re: Most Wanted: Character Archetypes
Post by: Morwen Lagann on 11 Sep 2014, 19:18
Morwen is also indeed now a Kingdom loyalist, and I believe a Kingdom resident.

tbh I would say you have it backwards. Resident definitely, citizen... theoretically. Loyalist... questionable. ;)
Title: Re: Most Wanted: Character Archetypes
Post by: Elmund Egivand on 11 Sep 2014, 20:37
I intended Egivand to be a free-man of sorts, with a dash of space cowboy (or rather, a whole bucket of paint of space cowboy). However, considering that capsuleers are immortal, rich as all heck and that part where the technology that enables them to mind-transfer to another clone and fly his ship isn't something that one person can maintain by himself, it sort of dilutes the space cowboy feel. Which is a shame!

So I can only try to make him space cowboy-ish in certain aspects.

Also, more space cowboys.
Title: Re: Most Wanted: Character Archetypes
Post by: Ché Biko on 13 Sep 2014, 15:37
What is a space cowboy?
Because, at the moment, all I can come up with is "Thukker".
If a cowboy herds cows, then what are the space cows?
Title: Re: Most Wanted: Character Archetypes
Post by: Mizhara on 13 Sep 2014, 16:33
Think Mal, except egger.
Title: Re: Most Wanted: Character Archetypes
Post by: Elmund Egivand on 13 Sep 2014, 23:32
Think Mal, except egger.

Or if you do not watch Serenity or Firefly, think Han Solo before he fell in with the Rebellion or Spike from Cowboy Bebop.

Also for your reference: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Western
Title: Re: Most Wanted: Character Archetypes
Post by: Ché Biko on 14 Sep 2014, 08:32
Hmm. I still fail to see how that differs from Thukker.
Title: Re: Most Wanted: Character Archetypes
Post by: Elmund Egivand on 14 Sep 2014, 09:11
Hmm. I still fail to see how that differs from Thukker.

Pointing out that it's not *just* a Thukker thing.
Title: Re: Most Wanted: Character Archetypes
Post by: Jikahr on 15 Sep 2014, 00:20
Space Cowboys would be like solo wormhole pilots, no?
Title: Re: Most Wanted: Character Archetypes
Post by: Jace on 15 Sep 2014, 00:23
Why use the term? Just as there were a wide variety of types of cowboys in real life and various forms of fiction, it can be used to mean different things with archetypes.
Title: Re: Most Wanted: Character Archetypes
Post by: Jikahr on 15 Sep 2014, 00:51
Why use the term? Just as there were a wide variety of types of cowboys in real life and various forms of fiction, it can be used to mean different things with archetypes.

I don't know. Someone else used the term.

I think Issac Asimov first used the term 'Space Western' to describe futuristic fiction that took place in space, but was light on the science. It's the view of space as the final frontier, so of course Captain Kirk is a 'space cowboy'.
Title: Re: Most Wanted: Character Archetypes
Post by: Ché Biko on 15 Sep 2014, 08:20
Space Cowboy added.
Title: Re: Most Wanted: Character Archetypes
Post by: Mizhara on 15 Sep 2014, 08:57
Minneh Turristz, damnit! The pre-vengeancening, part deux, the movie, the game!
Title: Re: Most Wanted: Character Archetypes
Post by: Elmund Egivand on 15 Sep 2014, 09:42
Space Cowboys would be like solo wormhole pilots, no?

Lowsec/nullsec freelancers might fit as well considering that those are frontier regions with alot of unexploited resources and the absence of law-enforcement.
Title: Re: Most Wanted: Character Archetypes
Post by: kalaratiri on 15 Sep 2014, 09:51
Space Cowboys would be like solo wormhole pilots, no?

Lowsec/nullsec freelancers might fit as well considering that those are frontier regions with alot of unexploited resources and the absence of law-enforcement.

/me is a space police woman. Defending the weak and helpless Angels from their aggressive capsuleer persecutors.
Title: Re: Most Wanted: Character Archetypes
Post by: Ché Biko on 16 Sep 2014, 07:39
Minneh Turristz, damnit! The pre-vengeancening, part deux, the movie, the game!
:s...Uhm...what?
Title: Re: Most Wanted: Character Archetypes
Post by: Mizhara on 16 Sep 2014, 07:47
Minneh Turristz, damnit! The pre-vengeancening, part deux, the movie, the game!
:s...Uhm...what?

It's missing from the poll.
Title: Re: Most Wanted: Character Archetypes
Post by: Ché Biko on 16 Sep 2014, 07:49
Yeah but...what is it?
Title: Re: Most Wanted: Character Archetypes
Post by: Shiori on 16 Sep 2014, 07:54
Minmatar Tourists, clearly. It's an Explorer sub-profession.
Title: Re: Most Wanted: Character Archetypes
Post by: Mizhara on 16 Sep 2014, 08:00
It's right there in the description, the pre-vengeancening, part deux, the movie, the game.

Okay, no. Terrorists. No more mr nice guy. Focus on making the baddies pay the price, etc.
Title: Re: Most Wanted: Character Archetypes
Post by: Ché Biko on 17 Sep 2014, 16:12
Minnie Terrorist added.
Title: Re: Most Wanted: Character Archetypes
Post by: Samira Kernher on 17 Sep 2014, 16:15
I want to change my vote to that now.
Title: Re: Most Wanted: Character Archetypes
Post by: Ché Biko on 17 Sep 2014, 16:16
And a vote reset.
Title: Re: Most Wanted: Character Archetypes
Post by: Mizhara on 17 Sep 2014, 16:29
Yay minneh turristz.
Title: Re: Most Wanted: Character Archetypes
Post by: youcancallmesir on 28 Oct 2014, 13:44
I guess you could say that Quat is a space cowboy at this juncture in his life. He lives in FW lowsec, flying for a non-FW corp, and day-trips into wormholes. His best friend is a Civire with serious Gallente sympathies, and he flies solo in frigates 90% of the time.

I've been thinking about non-standard activism lately though, and no one's looking out for baseliners. Not all of them, but the teeming masses of poor and disenfranchised. For as little as 1 ISK per day, you could help keep a child just like little Jarek here from starving in the streets, you obscenely wealthy monster.
Title: Re: Most Wanted: Character Archetypes
Post by: Jikahr on 28 Oct 2014, 22:48
I guess you could say that Quat is a space cowboy at this juncture in his life. He lives in FW lowsec, flying for a non-FW corp, and day-trips into wormholes. His best friend is a Civire with serious Gallente sympathies, and he flies solo in frigates 90% of the time.

I've been thinking about non-standard activism lately though, and no one's looking out for baseliners. Not all of them, but the teeming masses of poor and disenfranchised. For as little as 1 ISK per day, you could help keep a child just like little Jarek here from starving in the streets, you obscenely wealthy monster.

*Points to Che, the Space Communist.*
Title: Re: Most Wanted: Character Archetypes
Post by: Elmund Egivand on 29 Oct 2014, 00:53
I am pleasantly surprised to see no small number of space cattle-herding going on.
Title: Re: Most Wanted: Character Archetypes
Post by: Jikahr on 29 Oct 2014, 02:00
I am pleasantly surprised to see no small number of space cattle-herding going on.

Although slaves are referred to as 'livestock'.
Title: Re: Most Wanted: Character Archetypes
Post by: Elmund Egivand on 29 Oct 2014, 02:27
I am pleasantly surprised to see no small number of space cattle-herding going on.

Although slaves are referred to as 'livestock'.

There's such thing as slave-burger?
Title: Re: Most Wanted: Character Archetypes
Post by: Jikahr on 29 Oct 2014, 03:15
I am pleasantly surprised to see no small number of space cattle-herding going on.

Although slaves are referred to as 'livestock'.

There's such thing as slave-burger?

If you're a Blood Raider, and you like it very rare.
Title: Re: Most Wanted: Character Archetypes
Post by: Elmund Egivand on 29 Oct 2014, 06:27
I am pleasantly surprised to see no small number of space cattle-herding going on.

Although slaves are referred to as 'livestock'.

There's such thing as slave-burger?

If you're a Blood Raider, and you like it very rare.

I thought Blood Raiders only eat Bloodburger, you know that one with the patty made out of enriched coagulated blood? The same how a Veggieburger uses patties made of soy?
Title: Re: Most Wanted: Character Archetypes
Post by: Anyanka Funk on 29 Oct 2014, 07:06
I am pleasantly surprised to see no small number of space cattle-herding going on.

Although slaves are referred to as 'livestock'.

There's such thing as slave-burger?

If you're a Blood Raider, and you like it very rare.

I thought Blood Raiders only eat Bloodburger, you know that one with the patty made out of enriched coagulated blood? The same how a Veggieburger uses patties made of soy?

"We will eat the body and sanctify its blood, to let it be born again." - First sentence, first chapter, The Burning Life

Bit off topic there. It would be nice to have some cohorts in Delve. I've had a few in the past. They mostly relied on me to lead them. So I again suggest a Blood Raider.  One that has the strength to lead, a mind to grow, and a heart to love. If you have any inner Blood Raider that you've always wanted to be. There are people (me) that will play with you. Mind you, your character will be hated off the bat ICly- Even by Anyanka.
Title: Re: Most Wanted: Character Archetypes
Post by: Jace on 29 Oct 2014, 14:06
I voted for Gallente activist. It has been quite a while since we've seen many of those. I know of two players that are trying to get something going in that faction right now - I dearly hope it works out well for them.
Title: Re: Most Wanted: Character Archetypes
Post by: Nicoletta Mithra on 29 Oct 2014, 16:33
Seems to me there is no 'most wanted' character archetype, given how a) the list keeps growing and b) the votes spread over the options quite nicely. (Shannon-Diversity is 2.499, ln N = 2.639, giving a ratio of 0.947 for the Equitability of the given options.) What does this tell us? Probably that we have a lot of different people here who think that different things are interesting.
Title: Re: Most Wanted: Character Archetypes
Post by: Jace on 29 Oct 2014, 16:45
Seems to me there is no 'most wanted' character archetype, given how a) the list keeps growing and b) the votes spread over the options quite nicely. (Shannon-Diversity is 2.499, ln N = 2.639, giving a ratio of 0.947 for the Equitability of the given options.) What does this tell us? Probably that we have a lot of different people here who think that different things are interesting.

Probably the best result we could ask for.
Title: Re: Most Wanted: Character Archetypes
Post by: Nicoletta Mithra on 29 Oct 2014, 21:34
Seems to me there is no 'most wanted' character archetype, given how a) the list keeps growing and b) the votes spread over the options quite nicely. (Shannon-Diversity is 2.499, ln N = 2.639, giving a ratio of 0.947 for the Equitability of the given options.) What does this tell us? Probably that we have a lot of different people here who think that different things are interesting.

Probably the best result we could ask for.
It is for sure at the better end of the bad-good result continuum. ;)
Title: Re: Most Wanted: Character Archetypes
Post by: Lithium Flower on 30 Oct 2014, 02:42
By the way, Im roleplaying Jin-Mei as well, but it is a bit boring  :roll:
You still can catch her to RP with, if you want, she is a bit stay-at-home kind of girl though and doesn't show up on public a lot.
Just call for "Mika" in "Intergalactic Summit" and see if she's available to chat  ;)
Title: Re: Most Wanted: Character Archetypes
Post by: Ché Biko on 14 Nov 2014, 13:44
Seems to me there is no 'most wanted' character archetype, given how a) the list keeps growing and b) the votes spread over the options quite nicely. (Shannon-Diversity is 2.499, ln N = 2.639, giving a ratio of 0.947 for the Equitability of the given options.) What does this tell us? Probably that we have a lot of different people here who think that different things are interesting.
Hmm. I think that before the vote reset, the Thukker was a clear winner, and the votes were less spread.
What does this tell us? Maybe that some people have started to play the most wanted?
Title: Re: Most Wanted: Character Archetypes
Post by: Ria Nieyli on 02 Dec 2014, 11:56
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Title: Re: Most Wanted: Character Archetypes
Post by: Morwen Lagann on 02 Dec 2014, 12:36
It's funny to see that Khanid characters were(are?) rare, I seem to notice quite a few of them.

Avatars are not.

It's the ones who are affiliated with, live in, or do things relating to the Kingdom that are rare.
Title: Re: Most Wanted: Character Archetypes
Post by: Ria Nieyli on 02 Dec 2014, 12:44
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