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Silas Vitalia

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DUSTIES and Capsuleers
« on: 11 Sep 2012, 14:29 »

Does anyone have a line on the relationship between capsuleer tech and dusties as far as insta-cloining?  IE.... How PF is it going to be for us capsuleers to strap on dust implants and start lol-suiciding in RP formats ala 'the broker?'

 

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Re: DUSTIES and Capsuleers
« Reply #1 on: 11 Sep 2012, 14:36 »

Does anyone have a line on the relationship between capsuleer tech and dusties as far as insta-cloining?  IE.... How PF is it going to be for us capsuleers to strap on dust implants and start lol-suiciding in RP formats ala 'the broker?'

Dust soldiers are using specially-designed clones that have implants replacing entire portions of the brainstem, rather than neural jacks that 'hook' into parts of the brain's sensory I/O.

Odds of compatibility are infinitesimally small, if I've understood CCP's position correctly, and even if compatibility were possible, you wouldn't be doing it with the same clone. You would have capsule-capable clones, and Rambo clones, but not Rambo clones that can fly starships.
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Re: DUSTIES and Capsuleers
« Reply #2 on: 11 Sep 2012, 14:43 »

It seemed to me, that anyone could be a dustie with proper clone engineering, it didn't require the specific genetics of a pod pilot.
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Re: DUSTIES and Capsuleers
« Reply #3 on: 11 Sep 2012, 15:22 »

Which also make me wonder why the capsuleer cloning tech is not evolving from this clumsy, archaic way of brainscan when the capsule is breached. Why not using dust tech now mh ?
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Re: DUSTIES and Capsuleers
« Reply #4 on: 11 Sep 2012, 15:23 »

Does anyone have a line on the relationship between capsuleer tech and dusties as far as insta-cloining?  IE.... How PF is it going to be for us capsuleers to strap on dust implants and start lol-suiciding in RP formats ala 'the broker?'

Dust soldiers are using specially-designed clones that have implants replacing entire portions of the brainstem, rather than neural jacks that 'hook' into parts of the brain's sensory I/O.

Odds of compatibility are infinitesimally small, if I've understood CCP's position correctly, and even if compatibility were possible, you wouldn't be doing it with the same clone. You would have capsule-capable clones, and Rambo clones, but not Rambo clones that can fly starships.

That makes sense, but I'm asking more for RP permutations and repercussions.  An achilles heel of capsuleers is that outside of the pod they don't have continuity of consciousness. This would seem to remove that....
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Re: DUSTIES and Capsuleers
« Reply #5 on: 11 Sep 2012, 16:15 »

Well, as I understood it as well one of the major differences between DUSTies and capsuleers is that while capsuleers are capable of purchasing a clone contract for themselves, DUSTies are entirely reliant on their employers to provide spare clones - no work, no backup bodies.

Of course, this raises the question of how exactly the Arkombine function - I would presume they purchase DUST clones on the black market, though if they can a capsuleer almost certainly could as well.
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Re: DUSTIES and Capsuleers
« Reply #6 on: 11 Sep 2012, 16:57 »

Seems reasonable to think if there was an emerging supersoldier rebellion in New Eden it wouldn't be hard to step in and give them the same rights they give capsuleers as a way to diffuse the situation.
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« Reply #7 on: 11 Sep 2012, 20:19 »

Actually, that'd be the last thing I'd want to do as a national leader - after years of CCP sticking it in our faces how completely out-of-control, merciless, and nutty capsuleers are, would you really want to set off the same kind of situation on a planet, right next to all of your people?
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Re: DUSTIES and Capsuleers
« Reply #8 on: 12 Sep 2012, 04:19 »

Of course, this raises the question of how exactly the Arkombine function - I would presume they purchase DUST clones on the black market, though if they can a capsuleer almost certainly could as well.

Probably because the Arkombine has the power of any respectable megacorporation. And thus if you are a rogue dust merc, your only choice is probably to work for them as well.
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Re: DUSTIES and Capsuleers
« Reply #9 on: 12 Sep 2012, 22:04 »

Seems reasonable to think if there was an emerging supersoldier rebellion in New Eden it wouldn't be hard to step in and give them the same rights they give capsuleers as a way to diffuse the situation.

As the corp or faction owning the clones it would be even easier to flick a switch and turn them all off simultaneously, then arrange for some lackey to send in the salvage drones to recover some of your investment. I think that approach is supported in one of the DUST chronicles.
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