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Title: "Hollowed-out" luxury ships?
Post by: Kemekk on 29 Jun 2011, 18:35
Other than obtaining one of the 2 remaining Opux Luxury Yachts, do RPers ever use ships as luxury vehicles and even come up with interior designs for them? I've been thinking about using a Magnate as a sort of luxury cruise frigate for my character, and I was wondering if anyone else has done something like that.
Title: Re: "Hollowed-out" luxury ships?
Post by: Alain Colcer on 29 Jun 2011, 18:49
if there ever were "luxury" shuttles in the nexus store, i would pay for those, cause the only ship i think in terms of "luxurious ride" is the gallente shuttle.
Title: Re: "Hollowed-out" luxury ships?
Post by: Kemekk on 29 Jun 2011, 19:00
if there ever were "luxury" shuttles in the nexus store, i would pay for those, cause the only ship i think in terms of "luxurious ride" is the gallente shuttle.

I was thinking the same thing for an Amarr shuttle, but I'd assume that if they had an interior it would be rather small.
Title: Re: "Hollowed-out" luxury ships?
Post by: Tamur on 29 Jun 2011, 19:00
Besides shuttles, Iteron hulls have been used by diplomats and VIP's on some missions.
Title: Re: "Hollowed-out" luxury ships?
Post by: Ghost Hunter on 29 Jun 2011, 19:30
Some people do this, as I've seen things like Rifters, Chimera, etc.

It can happen, but there's obvious issues with the ship being in a place it can be killed while other Capsuleers are 'on board it'.
Title: Re: "Hollowed-out" luxury ships?
Post by: Seriphyn on 29 Jun 2011, 19:31
I figured the Exequror, as a "cargo cruiser", could be some luxury yacht of some kind.
Title: Re: "Hollowed-out" luxury ships?
Post by: Kemekk on 29 Jun 2011, 19:53
Some people do this, as I've seen things like Rifters, Chimera, etc.

It can happen, but there's obvious issues with the ship being in a place it can be killed while other Capsuleers are 'on board it'.

Right, which is why I have a cloaking device and the capability to warp fairly fast on my Magnate.
Title: Re: "Hollowed-out" luxury ships?
Post by: Casiella on 29 Jun 2011, 19:58
I have a Mammoth that Iurnan uses as his apartment so that he doesn't have to set up a new place every time he moves. Also it's a convenient excuse for why a wealthy trader appears (via CQ) to have moved into a cyberpunk Motel 6.
Title: Re: "Hollowed-out" luxury ships?
Post by: Kybernetes Moros on 29 Jun 2011, 20:10
Kyber's reappropriated various sections of his cruiser-and-larger ships to live in when he's not able to head back to his usual non-planetside residence. I'm very leery about using them when undocked, though, given the whole aspect of "what if the ship's destroyed?" and how much actually stays functional without a capsuleer.
Title: Re: "Hollowed-out" luxury ships?
Post by: Esna Pitoojee on 29 Jun 2011, 20:39
Esna once had an Anathema he used as a sort of "covert getaway resort" ship - he could park it somewhere, shut off the comms, and be reasonably sure nobody would be able to probe him out. Aside from that, I tend to plan out individual quarters aboard his ships, not the entire layout.
Title: Re: "Hollowed-out" luxury ships?
Post by: Kemekk on 29 Jun 2011, 21:00
Well right now I've been toying with the idea of using a Magnate (because I like the look) and I've set up a few safe spots with nice views in several systems that players should have a hard time getting to unless they scan me down.
Title: Re: "Hollowed-out" luxury ships?
Post by: Lyn Farel on 30 Jun 2011, 09:16
I am using apotheosises, though never actively had any RP in these ships with other people yet.

I have been invited recently in Rytha Main's flagship, an armageddon navy issue (or was it an apocalypse ? duh). Was interesting to simulate a docking in space, then RP-ing in the ship. Silas used to have a channel dedicated to her carrier too.
Title: Re: "Hollowed-out" luxury ships?
Post by: Victoria Stecker on 30 Jun 2011, 09:29
I've been aboard a couple such ships, a refurbished battleship can make for a HUGE house, to say nothing of carriers and the like which make meeting and docking much more plausible. Personally, Vicky has a hurricane which has had a few rooms rebuilt to make a lounge for entertaining guests and a master suite. It's nothing huge, the ship still functions in combat just fine, but it works for her. I recall someone, maybe Tibs, using a sigil as a garden for growing tea.
Title: Re: "Hollowed-out" luxury ships?
Post by: lallara zhuul on 30 Jun 2011, 10:42
I thought the ships used for battle were so efficiently designed that any kind of fiddling about with hollowing them out would basically make them unusable in any way or form.

Perhaps warp, but definitely no mods.
Title: Re: "Hollowed-out" luxury ships?
Post by: Kemekk on 30 Jun 2011, 10:45
I thought the ships used for battle were so efficiently designed that any kind of fiddling about with hollowing them out would basically make them unusable in any way or form.

Perhaps warp, but definitely no mods.

That's why I'm using a Magnate, since they're basically useless in combat anyway.

And I had intended to make a specific channel for the inside of the ship as others have done, but right now I don't have anyone to RP with anyway :(
Title: Re: "Hollowed-out" luxury ships?
Post by: Ghost Hunter on 30 Jun 2011, 11:59
I thought the ships used for battle were so efficiently designed that any kind of fiddling about with hollowing them out would basically make them unusable in any way or form.

Perhaps warp, but definitely no mods.

Perhaps, but one can consider the effects of Nanofibers and Cargohold expanders. They sufficiently alter the structure of the ship enough to achieve a purpose, but it is still 'combat capable', if one looks at things like cargo carriers.
Title: Re: "Hollowed-out" luxury ships?
Post by: Casiella on 30 Jun 2011, 12:19
Efficiently designed? I'm thinking Minmatar ships. Hell, we can just weld on a cage and make it airtight. :D

(Also, I prefer industrials for this sort of thing, myself, though I suppose a frigate could work in a pinch.)
Title: Re: "Hollowed-out" luxury ships?
Post by: Kemekk on 30 Jun 2011, 12:43
Efficiently designed? I'm thinking Minmatar ships. Hell, we can just weld on a cage and make it airtight. :D

(Also, I prefer industrials for this sort of thing, myself, though I suppose a frigate could work in a pinch.)

I didn't think about a Sigil or a Bestower as a luxury vessel, but I may have to now. I could also carry a combat ship inside it!
Title: Re: "Hollowed-out" luxury ships?
Post by: Saikoyu on 30 Jun 2011, 13:15
Or go one better, get an Orca.  Quarters and hanger space for your favorite cruiser. 

Personally I was thinking about using the Primus for this, since its just a station spinner anyway.
Title: Re: "Hollowed-out" luxury ships?
Post by: Casiella on 30 Jun 2011, 13:19
The Primae is perfect.
Title: Re: "Hollowed-out" luxury ships?
Post by: Kemekk on 30 Jun 2011, 14:24
The Primae, Orca, and any cruisers are nice, but to me they're far too big for a personal luxury ship. Those would be more like cruiseliner ships here on Earth, which I think would be a cool concept but I don't have the connections to make that possible without me being the only one on the ship.
Title: Re: "Hollowed-out" luxury ships?
Post by: Katrina Oniseki on 30 Jun 2011, 17:37
I too use the Primae as my personal quarters. I may have a Captain's Quarters, but I'll stay on the cool clean race-neutral quarters of my Primae any day.

I do plan to upgrade to an Orca soon though.
Title: Re: "Hollowed-out" luxury ships?
Post by: Myyona on 01 Jul 2011, 01:40
I use the Echelon  (http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Echelon) for luxury cruise.

It can recieve my favorite tv shows from anywhere in the star cluster.
Title: Re: "Hollowed-out" luxury ships?
Post by: Sinjin Mokk on 01 Jul 2011, 07:14
Personally, I like the Zephyr  (http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Zephyr) as a personal luxury shuttle.

But for reasons of security, Sinjin's main covert transport would have to be an Anathema. :)

Title: Re: "Hollowed-out" luxury ships?
Post by: Marcus Gord on 01 Jul 2011, 10:11
Marcus uses the Orca as his home. It's huge, it's non combat, so isn't likely to make him lose his home, and it means he can have a large living space since he had an observation area redesigned as an apartment with an awesome view.
Title: Re: "Hollowed-out" luxury ships?
Post by: Raxipoo on 01 Jul 2011, 11:05
My other character, Lt Graham, has an apartment on his Arazu.

I used to have a whole living space plotted out on his Rokh, but then it vanished in a horrifying ball of vapour.
Title: Re: "Hollowed-out" luxury ships?
Post by: Morwen Lagann on 01 Jul 2011, 13:22
I used to have a whole living space plotted out on his Rokh, but then it vanished in a horrifying ball of vapour.

I guess you can stop the Ro---oh, never mind.

Historically, Morwen's always lived on her ships rather than in stationside apartments. These days, when not planetside in the Kingdom, she generally lives on her Chimera, but she's also got various living spaces installed in about five or six of her other ships.
Title: Re: "Hollowed-out" luxury ships?
Post by: Katrina Oniseki on 01 Jul 2011, 13:37
My character has severe insomnia that makes it almost impossible to sleep while jacked into her pod, or in any environment that doesn't meet her near obsessive compulsive standards. It isn't about a certain style of quarters, but more about how she cannot feel comfortable sleeping in an area she has not personally customized to her taste. Thus, she has installed sleeping quarters in just about every single ship she owns, just in case she finds she'll have to spend the night far from home.

Katrina is also a strange one, with a taste for variety and the exotic. Capsuleer life has given her a lust for new experiences, a complete 180 degree shift from her lifestyle as a State bred tube child. As such, each ship has a different aesthetic style of quarters, sometimes by virtue of being larger versions of favorite design styles. She prefers to remind herself what sort of ship she is sleeping in. The quarters on her Rokh are styled in traditional Achuran design philosophy, while those on her Bantam amount to little more than a couch and table with a fold up cot in the wall.

If it's a Gallente ship, it uses Gallentean design philosopy. Same for Amarr or Minmatar, or faction, and even pirate vessels. By far the most exotic place she has installed would be the quarters aboard her Zephyr. Eccentric, just like the ship's creator, the curved walls of the room are almost completely transparent and unbroken, save for the structural supports, giving the illusion that the room is exposed to the vacuum of space.

Like I said, it's not about how it looks, but if Katrina has had a chance to place her personal 'touch' to the style. A room that wasn't designed by her, customized by her, or furnished by her... is not hers. Thus, she cannot sleep in it.
Title: Re: "Hollowed-out" luxury ships?
Post by: Esna Pitoojee on 01 Jul 2011, 16:52
My character has severe insomnia that makes it almost impossible to sleep while jacked into her pod, or in any environment that doesn't meet her near obsessive compulsive standards. It isn't about a certain style of quarters, but more about how she cannot feel comfortable sleeping in an area she has not personally customized to her taste. Thus, she has installed sleeping quarters in just about every single ship she owns, just in case she finds she'll have to spend the night far from home.

This is, frankly, one of the most amusing character quirks I've seen in a while.

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Katrina is also a strange one, with a taste for variety and the exotic. Capsuleer life has given her a lust for new experiences, a complete 180 degree shift from her lifestyle as a State bred tube child. As such, each ship has a different aesthetic style of quarters, sometimes by virtue of being larger versions of favorite design styles. She prefers to remind herself what sort of ship she is sleeping in. The quarters on her Rokh are styled in traditional Achuran design philosophy, while those on her Bantam amount to little more than a couch and table with a fold up cot in the wall.

If it's a Gallente ship, it uses Gallentean design philosopy. Same for Amarr or Minmatar, or faction, and even pirate vessels. By far the most exotic place she has installed would be the quarters aboard her Zephyr. Eccentric, just like the ship's creator, the curved walls of the room are almost completely transparent and unbroken, save for the structural supports, giving the illusion that the room is exposed to the vacuum of space.

If we're talking about modifying quarters into larger ships, then it's probably worth mentioning Esna's quarters on his carrier - he got fed up of being trapped aboard his carrier when he was living out of it in 0.0, so he got a room in his quarters set up to be able to simulate sleeping outside via a holographic system and hidden speakers.
Title: Re: "Hollowed-out" luxury ships?
Post by: Katrina Oniseki on 01 Jul 2011, 17:59
This is, frankly, one of the most amusing character quirks I've seen in a while.

It's amusing until you let her sleep over at your place, and she rearranges your entire living room just so she can crash on your couch. :D

Quote from: Esna Pitoojee

If we're talking about modifying quarters into larger ships, then it's probably worth mentioning Esna's quarters on his carrier - he got fed up of being trapped aboard his carrier when he was living out of it in 0.0, so he got a room in his quarters set up to be able to simulate sleeping outside via a holographic system and hidden speakers.

Oooo, holographic quarters! I like.

Also, it's worth mentioning that I'm doing it this way because I have terrible memory OOC for my own stories, and I've been caught before screwing up the layout of my own locales. So... different ship, yeah, the bed is on the right side this time!
Title: Re: "Hollowed-out" luxury ships?
Post by: Ember Vykos on 02 Jul 2011, 00:29
I haven't thought much about making living quarters in any of my ships, but if I'm flying around in high sec in my gal shuttle I usually picture it as more of a private jet ride than Simca flying the shuttle.

Once I start flying BS's I may make a flagship out of a Megathron and set up personal quarters for her on it. I do like the idea of taking a cloaky frig and using it as a sort of private getaway, but not sure if Simca would go to all that trouble just to get away from it all.

EDIT:

I was looking at random ships on the market and came across the Zephyr. I had almost forgotten about it, but looking at it made me think that it would be cool to use for a sort of sailing trip. It's probably big enough to have personal quarters and  a living space big enough for a few people(think 2 BR 2.5 bath apartment).
Title: Re: "Hollowed-out" luxury ships?
Post by: Katrina Oniseki on 13 Jul 2011, 22:28
In a recent RP, I referenced the many empty corridors aboard Kat's starships. She implied that the qaurters aboard one of her battleships was the size of a 'small house'. Would this be unrealistic?

I realize there is still a substantial crew aboard a Capsuleer battleship, but surely the crew reductions would open up options for internal redesigns? There would be large crew halls and such freed up by that massive reduction in crew needs, I assume.
Title: Re: "Hollowed-out" luxury ships?
Post by: Kemekk on 13 Jul 2011, 22:38
Depending on the battleship, I'd say it's possible.

Going off the guidelines here (http://"http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/New_Eden_crew_guidelines"), I personally place my crew numbers a little higher than the minimum, taking into account the automation found in some racial ships. I haven't thought of using a battleship as a luxury ship yet but I'd assume that it's possible in a capsule-fitted ship.
Title: Re: "Hollowed-out" luxury ships?
Post by: Katrina Oniseki on 13 Jul 2011, 23:03
Oh not as a luxury ship. Just making use of some of that empty space inside. Like, clearing out one of the now unused crew mess halls and the old offer's quarters.
Title: Re: "Hollowed-out" luxury ships?
Post by: Kemekk on 14 Jul 2011, 00:30
Yah that's what I meant. I've actually been putting in quite a lot of research on ship sizes, interior size estimates, crew size estimates, etc., (as well as non-temperate planet temperature, gravity, escape velocity, etc.) probably more than I should be doing for a game...

If you ever want to brainstorm about this stuff just message me ingame on Kemekk.
Title: Re: "Hollowed-out" luxury ships?
Post by: Ember Vykos on 16 Jul 2011, 10:38
Well if worse comes to worse you could always just use part of the cargo hold and a few internal modifications to provide access from the interior of the ship. Most BS's have enough space to probably provide room for a 'small house' and still have enough leftover for ammo and whatever else you would carry. Even a frigate could probably accommodate a good sized studio apartment into its cargo hold without sacrificing too much space.
Title: Re: "Hollowed-out" luxury ships?
Post by: Nmaro Makari on 23 Jul 2011, 16:33
When was the last time Minmatar ship design screamed out "luxury" at you?
Title: Re: "Hollowed-out" luxury ships?
Post by: Casiella on 23 Jul 2011, 17:27
Have you seen the Maelstrom? It's not exactly a Breacher.
Title: Re: "Hollowed-out" luxury ships?
Post by: Norrin Ellis on 26 Jul 2011, 01:53
The Venture Racing flagship, Victory (http://www.ventureracingteam.com/index.php?mact=Profiles,cntnt01,default,0&cntnt01profileid=26&cntnt01returnid=71), and her sister ship, Celebration (http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1555045), are essentially floating hotels.  Obviously, the ships are a bit too large for me to be too detailed about the interior, but invitation-only RP events are sometimes held aboard the Victory in specific areas of the ship.

Before anyone criticizes my jungle camo luxury ship, please note that it was constructed when the paintjob on a Navy Megathron was rather sexy, even before the baby blue era in Gallente finishing.
Title: Re: "Hollowed-out" luxury ships?
Post by: Ember Vykos on 26 Jul 2011, 11:46
Floating hotel sounds like a cool idea. Whens your next party?  ;)