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Esna Pitoojee

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So, dat SOMER drama
« on: 20 Aug 2014, 20:37 »

So, for those of you who haven't seen this, it's been glorious rage, tears, rejoicing, and :smug: all rolled into one.

SOMERblink was a gambling service largely based on the IGB. The idea was, in short, that you deposit ISK and then use that to buy tickets in fast-paced lotteries ("blinks") for ships, PLEXes, etc. It was very smoothly coded, with players able to spawn new blinks for particular ships or items they wanted if one wasn't up; in general it was thought of as one of the most addicting attention-sinks in the game, and was wildly popular with tons of ISK being handled on a regular basis.

Back in October of 2013, SOMER got into some drama when they offered a program in which players who bought PLEX through their affiliate - granting SOMER a RLcash reward for the referral - were given a bonus Blink credit. It was argued that this largely amounted to RMT, with SOMER converting their ISK into RLcash. CCP agreed, and shut down the program... though not before SOMER thumbed their nose at CCP by offering a HUGE bonus to Blink credit in reward for PLEX purchases in the final days of the program.

Now, up to the current date. SOMER recently introduced a program in which players who purchased a PLEX from an affiliate - again granting SOMER a RLcash reward - could redeem their PLEX with SOMER for ISK. The catch was, SOMER guaranteed a purchase price 45m above the going market price. So, for instance, if the Jita price was 790m, SOMER would purchase it for 835m ISK. Additionally, SOMER posted a message stating that this was "approved by CCP". Again the outcries of rage went up.

CCP was not amused. It turned out that the outline which SOMER had given CCP for approval stated that buyers would not receive any additional reward for buying a PLEX through SOMER - but, they were getting the 45m-above-market bonus, a seeming clear violation of this. CCP went into full-on investigation mode, SOMER got hissy, and the outrage rose.

TL;DR - Banhammer'd for numerous TOS violations.

Longer version: While they refused to comment on any charges of RMTing, CCP said that the program "could be used" for RMT purposes; they were also upset by the "CCP approved this" message (which they felt was inaccurately describing SOMER as a trusted CCP affiliate, an idea they were keen to shake off after earlier accusations of CCP favoritism towards SOMER) and were also upset that - in an act of apparent frustration with CCP - SOMER had published logs of a conversation between a CCP representative and himself, a violation of the TOS rule against doing so.

Result was a ban across all accounts for Somerseht Mahm, the creator of SOMERblink. Action against anyone who just played Blinks or worked for them will not be taken. It comes a bit late, though, because Somerseht had - in a "you can't fire me, I quit!" kind of thing - already announced the closure of SOMERblink. His parting message was really quite amusing; it had lots of "but CCP said so, you guys are being mean!" vibes coming off it.

I dunno. What is it about piles of ISK that makes people think they can blatantly RMT freely?
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Re: So, dat SOMER drama
« Reply #1 on: 20 Aug 2014, 20:49 »

If there's a system, someone somewhere will try to game the system. Some people are really good at it. Some people are really bad at it. Some are gracious losers when caught. Others are...well, like Somerseht Mahm.
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Re: So, dat SOMER drama
« Reply #2 on: 20 Aug 2014, 21:06 »

Humanity remains as such.
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Re: So, dat SOMER drama
« Reply #3 on: 20 Aug 2014, 22:27 »

The people setting it up do not surprise me, but for some silly reason I still find it a little surprising that there are so many customers. Same for the ISK poker sites that rig the tables and allow collaboration. I just do not get why people participate.
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Re: So, dat SOMER drama
« Reply #4 on: 20 Aug 2014, 22:29 »

I only sunk about 2 and a half bil into it over the course of a few years, and haven't logged in since like, December.

I'm having a nice moment of schadenfreude over the whole thing, really.
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Re: So, dat SOMER drama
« Reply #5 on: 20 Aug 2014, 23:48 »

The people setting it up do not surprise me, but for some silly reason I still find it a little surprising that there are so many customers. Same for the ISK poker sites that rig the tables and allow collaboration. I just do not get why people participate.

Gambling. The potential of winning, however small, produces a great enough high to overshadow the fear of losing, however big. I think some describe it as a disease.
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Re: So, dat SOMER drama
« Reply #6 on: 21 Aug 2014, 02:31 »

I made quite a bit off of SomerBlink for how little I put in, and I found it a rather entertaining past time. Kind of sad that it's shut down, since it was a very nicely designed and very functional website.

Oh well.
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Re: So, dat SOMER drama
« Reply #7 on: 21 Aug 2014, 06:38 »

Gambling. The potential of winning, however small, produces a great enough high to overshadow the fear of losing, however big. I think some describe it as a disease.

I understand gambling as a whole, it is just gambling on sites that have no regulation that confuses me. It is guaranteed to be even more rigged than regular gambling. Somer's site had been shown to release as winnings an amount of ISK abysmally small compared to what it brought in - a number nowhere near how many winnings he claimed it had given away. And some of the poker sites have been shown to have rigged tables. But what would you expect from random sites put up by third parties that have no regulation whatsoever?
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Re: So, dat SOMER drama
« Reply #8 on: 21 Aug 2014, 10:01 »

Gambling. The potential of winning, however small, produces a great enough high to overshadow the fear of losing, however big. I think some describe it as a disease.

I understand gambling as a whole, it is just gambling on sites that have no regulation that confuses me. It is guaranteed to be even more rigged than regular gambling. Somer's site had been shown to release as winnings an amount of ISK abysmally small compared to what it brought in - a number nowhere near how many winnings he claimed it had given away. And some of the poker sites have been shown to have rigged tables. But what would you expect from random sites put up by third parties that have no regulation whatsoever?

The emotions, especially those relating to the anticipation of winning, still applies on gambling sites. It is known that under the influence of strong emotions, people do stupid things. What you feel can overpower what you know, and you end up doing things you should had known better not to do.

Some people are more vulnerable to feeling such emotion and reacting to it. These are the guys who lose big on Somerblink or casino even though the slightest knowledge about probability would had told them that the chance of winning is abysmal. Some people are far less vulnerable and would quit the table before losing their life's savings.
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Re: So, dat SOMER drama
« Reply #9 on: 21 Aug 2014, 10:33 »

I'm having a nice moment of schadenfreude over the whole thing, really.

On a related note, I'm hoping the guilty party releases some kind of grocery list of unique items that they have incidentally purged from the game. I assume it's too late for something verifiable like an API'd asset list, but damn, I am curious.
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Re: So, dat SOMER drama
« Reply #10 on: 21 Aug 2014, 11:00 »

Well, there goes my last remaining method of making ISK.
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Re: So, dat SOMER drama
« Reply #11 on: 21 Aug 2014, 11:49 »

supposedly, somer has hired people to ddos ccp's servers.
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Re: So, dat SOMER drama
« Reply #12 on: 21 Aug 2014, 11:52 »

Would not doubt it.
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Re: So, dat SOMER drama
« Reply #13 on: 21 Aug 2014, 12:05 »

That would explain all of the forum problems over the last couple days. Posts getting eaten, huge delays in anything happening.
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Re: So, dat SOMER drama
« Reply #14 on: 21 Aug 2014, 12:42 »

Well, there goes my last remaining method of making ISK.

How the hell do you do money in a lottery ? It's mathematically skewed towards the organizer, or he would lose money.
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