Mmh...
Justice and revenge are going to be big themes within the new corp. Where the line is drawn will be very blurry, and figuring out what acts are motivated by a logical intent to create a better capsuleer society, and pure, blood-mad hatred will be difficult to outsiders.
For example, the corp will have a set of rules dictating what to do with POW's. Prisoners captured from different ship wrecks will be subject to different rules based on what capsuleer they were serving at the time the Knighthood decided to pop them. Minmatar militia prisoners will be enslaved, but will be up for honorable prisoner exchanges with respected enemies. Pirate prisoners will also be enslaved, but without the possibility of prisoner exchange. Or be hung. Amarrian traitor prisoners will have their heads chopped off. War criminals will be crucified. Violent heretics will be tied to sticks and set on fire. I think you get the jist of things. All mass-executions can be public RP events too, so bring the kids! By the way, aren't medieval execution methods fascinating?
yaay
/me approves of her husbands new found 'dark' side :D
/me approves of her husbands new found 'dark' side :D
*starts rumours of a Lady Macbeth sort :P
Stab 'em in the face, of course!
I think KotMC will end up droping in and out of FW as needs dictate. Being able to pursue a certain enemy when they retreat to Gallente or Minmatar hisec will be nice. And then there are the pesky asshats in the 24th that do not nice things. We'll only chase our own militia if it's really necessary though.
You guys were always my "Corp-I-Would-Join-If-Everything-I've-Built-Went-To-Shit".
I was sad to hear that you disbanded, but I'd be very happy to hear of it all starting up again. Good luck.
I miss the fireplace.
*cough*
I miss the fireplace.
*cough*
Not just empty quotin' :3
This might be a good time to let you all know that access to Mercy's Keep is going to become invite/request only. With the new mood of the corp certain people would simply have their heads lopped off and I don't intend on having a messy *Aldrith Shutaq leaps across the table and runs through [insert name here] with a [insert medieval weapon here].* RP every day.
Those who will be admitted will be:
- Those with something in common with the Knighthood (like allies)
- Those with something to offer to the Knighthood (like recruits or social butterflies with connections)
- Those with diplomatic interests with the Knighthood
- Those with some other form of business with the Knighthood
- Personal friends of members
- Some select respectable enemies (and this will be conditional)
This should also serve to clear up some of the RP clutter like lurkers and trolls. Mercy's Keep will hopefully be just as lively as I will tend to be on the generous side with the invites, but there are certain people that just won't be able to come in for their own safety.
Srs bsnss. K U GAIZ?!
This is so damn sexy. I want to, to.. antagonize you guys, get what I'm sayin'?
Can we get invites? 8)
Well hell if there is not going to be daily beheadings Im a lot less excited by this whole thing...
... when someone's character comes to the Keep to relax and chat and ends up with their head on a spike instead...
Aldrith, welcome back. I do hope you get this off the ground, sounds like fun. If you do I'll stop by again and Aldrith and Sai can have another little argument, now with more stabbing.
Aldrith, welcome back. I do hope you get this off the ground, sounds like fun. If you do I'll stop by again and Aldrith and Sai can have another little argument, now with more stabbing.
No stabbings. Esna likes Saikoyu alive. :|
And I have the feeling we're run into each other Rin, but my memory is bad with such things. And I am heard about? I am flattered.
Aldrith, welcome back. I do hope you get this off the ground, sounds like fun. If you do I'll stop by again and Aldrith and Sai can have another little argument, now with more stabbing.
Anyway, another thing for Aldrith, if the new sec status changes go through, you might not need war decs if you stick to low sec, even against other corps in the militia, at least from what I understood of it.
Any ETA on this? :D
Anyway, another thing for Aldrith, if the new sec status changes go through, you might not need war decs if you stick to low sec, even against other corps in the militia, at least from what I understood of it.
Any ETA on this? :D
Probably 1-3 weeks before the launch of Inferno if I don't puss out and decided RL is more fun/important.
I promised more detailed brainstorm posts coming soonish, but I'm in NYC right now and only get on my lappy in the moments my legs are too dead to carry me anywhere. Also slightly drunk when these moments come about, so...
I'll just give out a CCP style :soon:!
Aldrith, welcome back. I do hope you get this off the ground, sounds like fun. If you do I'll stop by again and Aldrith and Sai can have another little argument, now with more stabbing.
Did I mention the proper Amarrian penalty for treason is DEATH?
Anyway, another thing for Aldrith, if the new sec status changes go through, you might not need war decs if you stick to low sec, even against other corps in the militia, at least from what I understood of it.
That would be nice, but it's generally known that worst bastards out there like to keep a decent sec status so they can do their foul deeds anywhere they like, such as Blooders, EoM and Sansha. I was rather hoping to wardec certain corps for short periods of time on an almost rotating basis. Keeps things fresh and we'd get to fight across the cluster!
CCP didn't really elaborate enough for me to be sure that's the case - in order to bring in allies, a defender has to make the war mutual.
But in the current system, making the war mutual removes all bills, doesn't it?
So what happens in the new system? If there are no bills to pay, how do you "abandon" it in that fashion?
We, also, might be interested in coming to fight your dangerous mental illne- err, religiously based reclaiming organization. We'll get back to you :)
Found that on the evelopedia : http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Ni-Kunni (http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Ni-Kunni)
Thought it might interest Aldrith, thats a shitload of Ni-Kunni PF. :p
So, where does line for the "Sign up to a Criminal in KotMC's eyes" begin?
Sounds fun. Now, it looks like it's a very amarrian organisation - what about non-amarrians joining the cause?
Or broadly spoken, what would be the (IC) requirements for joining. :)
[....] the final theoretical goal of the Knighthood will be to keep all people-loving capsuleers in empire borders, while forcing all the asshat selfish ones into nullsec to kill each other for all eternity.
Stop making me want to involve myself with you guys. :|
Can you continue Aldrith please ? Anything else to add ?
Hmmmm.
Wonder how KotMC will view Skadi's Call, and our heathen, violent methods?
/me beats a drum and sings to the Spirits, awaiting a response...
Do you have more details on the KotMC external collaborators you mentionned somewhere above? How do you view them ? Are they just about additional info on foes ? Or do you see them doing more extended collaborative work ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlicWUDf5MM is all I need for inspiration. :D
/me EVEwho's ALL the potential enemies!
If you have to look along the shaft of an arrow from the wrong end, if a man has you at his mercy, then hope like hell that man is an evil man. Because the evil like power, power over people, and they want to see you in fear. They want you to know you are going to die. So they'll talk. They'll gloat.
They'll watch you squirm. They'll put off the murder like another man will put off a good cigar.
So hope like hell your captor is an evil man. A good man will kill you with hardly a word.
I bring inspiration.Quote from: PratchettIf you have to look along the shaft of an arrow from the wrong end, if a man has you at his mercy, then hope like hell that man is an evil man. Because the evil like power, power over people, and they want to see you in fear. They want you to know you are going to die. So they'll talk. They'll gloat.
They'll watch you squirm. They'll put off the murder like another man will put off a good cigar.
So hope like hell your captor is an evil man. A good man will kill you with hardly a word.
Also, that quote about evil men was -probably- in reference to the Evil Overlord who rules Ankh-Morpork, though honestly he seems to get good advice and probably counts as a 'good guy' on that list.
A whole lot of pirates justify their acts that way. Most of Veto does, I recall. Good luck trying to state that in Mercy's Keep, however; you wouldn't leave with all of your limbs! ;3
Always remember that the crowd that applauds your coronation is the same crowd that will applaud your beheading. People like a show.
It's often more a "you went into the attic without a lantern, it's your own fucking fault if you get eaten by a Grue" sort of justification than "but but but THEY LANDED IN MY LAP".
It's often more a "you went into the attic without a lantern, it's your own fucking fault if you get eaten by a Grue" sort of justification than "but but but THEY LANDED IN MY LAP".
"If she didn't want to get raped, she shouldn't have been walking through that park on her own"
Not convinced.
lol, calm down people this isn't a thread about the justifications of piracy. In this thread we already know they're evil, the only debate is about what kind of sharp object ought to be used to make them hurt. ;)
So, how can I convince you EM is dishonorable enough for you to decide to shoot at us?
A whole lot of pirates justify their acts that way. Most of Veto does, I recall. Good luck trying to state that in Mercy's Keep, however; you wouldn't leave with all of your limbs! ;3That's only fair. And leads to an interesting question: if you leave Mercy's Keep without your head, do you really leave Mercy's Keep?
From experience he is also going to get a lot of flak from Minmatars too. Probably a lot more than amarrian hardliners. It was already the case with the first KotMC, and it was more laxist. While it was expected from hardliners to be like they are to a minmatar point of view, they never really understood KotMC liberal stances, or just did not want to understand it as it was often breaking a dark/white view they tried to keep at any cost.
Great stuff anyway. \o/
Looks good, but the only thing that's coming to mind is a bunch of Samaras singing the Soviet anthem.
Communist Justicars. xP
I'm trying to think of ways to make all of this reasoning clear IC besides having to talk to people personally... hm.
I probably shouldnt be so eager to draw Aldy's ire.
After all, a man married to Mitnara for so long has probably forgotten more about pain and suffering than any of us will ever know.... :D
Hmmm, you got a point there. Maybe I should quit posting here; I think I have given things enough thought and gotten enough feedback to know what I want to do already and KotMC is going to need some mystique behind it. At this point this is just a big spoiler thread.
I probably shouldnt be so eager to draw Aldy's ire.
After all, a man married to Mitnara for so long has probably forgotten more about pain and suffering than any of us will ever know.... :D
Hey now!!!
:D
By no means stop posting!
At some point in the future this KOTMC-idea-thread will probably depos(i)t itself.
You may be right about some things. 'Insider secrets' should not be spoiled. But the general gist and public side of that project should not be hidden. Say a recruitment thread, the 'What is KOTMC and why should I want to behead people?'-thread, or a evelopedia page. These are the ones that shouldn't contain overly explanatory OOC reasonings, as these are the locations people will look first.
Give people hints of the 'behind-the-curtain' activities there. Taking up the slavery example that might be the 'public statement' that slaves are property of the knighthood, and not individuals, and are used as the knighthood seems fit. That opens a nice window for interpretations, both naughty and nice.
Besides I'd be a very sad panda if I don't get my regular hype boost from you. Bloodbird is right, this is a recruitment thread.
And yeah, it's laaaate and I should've been in bed one hour ago, so I hope no one wants to kill me now for the convoluted sentences above - this one included, tax free even!
I probably shouldnt be so eager to draw Aldy's ire.
After all, a man married to Mitnara for so long has probably forgotten more about pain and suffering than any of us will ever know.... :D
Hey now!!!
:D
Haha, yeah, Mitty is a complete kitten in Aldy's arms.
Tease, don't strip.
Tease, don't strip.
Ald knows all about teasing. Asshole. :(
Tease, don't strip.
Ald knows all about teasing. Asshole. :(
I did not have sexual relations with that woman. And apparently she's upset about it. :eek:
Tease, don't strip.
Ald knows all about teasing. Asshole. :(
I did not have sexual relations with that woman. And apparently she's upset about it. :eek:
Nah. She just likes giving you shit about it within Mitara's earshot. :D
Ideally people should get a general idea and get hooked, trying to think about it and start IC topics about the thing. If you make everything easily accessible - even in an OOC fashion - it will quickly dissipate into IC knowledge and eliminate the need for interaction.
At least in my opinion.
Tease, don't strip.
Yes, you're right. Which is why I've said: Keep on posting, Aldrith, or we're all going to create alts pretending to have cheated with Ald so that he'll face private hell!
http://www.quickmeme.com/meme/3oxfmc/ (http://www.quickmeme.com/meme/3oxfmc/)
No cheating was involved, just friendly snuggles. :(
Dammit you heathen woman, I'm trying to plan my glorious return in a blaze of fire and blood! No room for snuggles in this!
No cheating was involved, just friendly snuggles. :(
:eek: WTF!?
Rawrrr!
AIDING THE ENEMY
1. Flying an industrial ship, freighter or other large cargo-carrying vessel through or into Minmatar or Gallente FW territory.
For all intents and purposes we follow a loose NBSI ("Not Blue, Shoot It") RoE when in 0.0 space. This is because the vast majority of players in 0.0 follow this same RoE and strict rules on who can be engaged when, where and how are impractical in such an environment.
I disagree with Lyn that it's too complicated. It mostly works.
There might also be some Daenerys Targaryen style hissy-fits where everybody just dies because they weren't nice enough.
"Y u so mean? I SHALL WASH YOUR FAMILY OFF THIS EARTH IN A STORM OF FIRE AND BLOOD."
Stop making us wait! The SUSPENSE!!!
Will you also follow Stannis first dogma ?
"A good deed do not redeem a bad deed."
THANK.YOU.SO.MUCH.
I am so sick and damn tired of seeing god and every man get away with their atrocities because people tend to forget they did them, or they want redemption (and get's it in a second) and are swiftly elevated to forgivenvillain status. Happens to practically everyone who wants it. If it ever came to pass that people who do badthings(tm) as defined by the factions keeping tabs on this, are repeatedly reminded of and punished for their actions (or atl treated accordingly) then EVE might be a considerably more interesting game than it already is.
More realistic reactions for actions. Then all one needs is true EVE-characters instead of real-life-persona-expy syndrome. That's a topic for another day, though.
Simple: it's a matter of personality. Just because there's going to be an injection of Khanid practicality in certain areas doesn't mean it's going to completely take over. The Khanid aspects mix with Aldy's personal feelings and takes the form of a practical 'moral prioritization'. All the energy and malice usually used to persecute things like heresy, blasphemy and to push slavery on people will be shifted into more serious matters, such as punishing murder, piracy and extreme heresy, such as Sani Sabik and EoM. The principle here is that you can swing your hammer twice as hard if you're not using it to crush ants. Nitpicking only wears you out and makes you unable to stand up for the important principles.
Bottom line: KotMC will not exist to change your mind on matters; it will exist to put a laser bolt through your head when you fuck up because of your incorrect opinions.
*pokes Aldi* Ohai you :D
*pokes Aldi* Ohai you :D
zomg.
Why yes I am, my good sir! How have you been? And do you like chopping people into bits for their heinous sins?
Only crimes take place in darkness. Punishment has to be done in the light.
History is made at night. Character is what you are in the dark.
Thanks Silas! :D
Btw, for those of you who haven't met Otheiran before (I like to call him Ger-Bear) he's based on this character, mixed with a western knight with the mouth of a sailor:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBph_ibTVgQ&feature=my_liked_videos&list=LLwQfThsFYeaxGW9YNtfI3Hw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBph_ibTVgQ&feature=my_liked_videos&list=LLwQfThsFYeaxGW9YNtfI3Hw)
I've also been thinking of making him slightly senile since he's 95 and doesn't believe in mental implants, so the dialogue might even be similar!
*Ger'Ante Otheiran punches a hole through the block of wood.
"Did you see that wood gnome? I think I got it."
*The new recruit blinks.
"I don't see any wood gn-"
"ARE YOU SAYING I'M CRAZY?! Now help me get the rest!"
Thanks Silas! :D
Btw, for those of you who haven't met Otheiran before (I like to call him Ger-Bear) he's based on this character, mixed with a western knight with the mouth of a sailor:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBph_ibTVgQ&feature=my_liked_videos&list=LLwQfThsFYeaxGW9YNtfI3Hw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBph_ibTVgQ&feature=my_liked_videos&list=LLwQfThsFYeaxGW9YNtfI3Hw)
I've also been thinking of making him slightly senile since he's 95 and doesn't believe in mental implants, so the dialogue might even be similar!
*Ger'Ante Otheiran punches a hole through the block of wood.
"Did you see that wood gnome? I think I got it."
*The new recruit blinks.
"I don't see any wood gn-"
"ARE YOU SAYING I'M CRAZY?! Now help me get the rest!"
I have absolutely no idea what that was about :P but if you Ger-Bear is anything like that guy he is a complete nutcase.
...and you may have ruined the Cyberknights for all time.
I hope Celeste never ever ever ever with an extra 'ever' meets this guy. She'll think he's adorable (and his views on capsuleers nicely line up with those held by her former Amarr business partner, whom she misses a great deal).
I can truly say, Aldrith brings a good fight.
Till we meet again.
I hope Celeste never ever ever ever with an extra 'ever' meets this guy. She'll think he's adorable (and his views on capsuleers nicely line up with those held by her former Amarr business partner, whom she misses a great deal).
Why is this a bad thing?!
Just that people who she thinks are adorable have a tendency to disappear quietly under mysterious circumstances (stupid stupid family curses).
The Family Prayer
"And Shepherds we shall be
For thee, my Lord, for thee.
Power hath descended forth from Thy hand
Our feet may swiftly carry out Thy commands.
So we shall flow a river forth to Thee
And teeming with souls shall it ever be.
In Nomeni Patri Et Fili Et Spiritus Sancti."
Il Duce's Prayers
"And when I vest my flashing sword and my hand takes hold in judgement I will take vengeance upon mine enemies. And I will repay those who hate me O Lord, raise me to Thy right hand And count me among Thy saints."
"Whosoever shed last blood. By man shall his blood be shed. For immunity of god make he the man. Destroy all that which is evil. So that which is good may flourish. And I shall count thee among my favoured sheep. And you shall have the protection of all the angels in heaven."
"Never shall innocent blood be shed. Yet the blood of the wicked shall flow like a river. The three shall spread their blackened wings and be the vengeful, striking hammer of god. "
P: God, by your name save me,
and by your might defend my cause.
All: God, hear my prayer;
hearken to the words of my mouth.
P: For haughty men have risen up against me,
and fierce men seek my life;
they set not God before their eyes.
All: See, God is my helper;
the Lord sustains my life.
P: Turn back the evil upon my foes;
in your faithfulness destroy them.
All: Freely will I offer you sacrifice;
I will praise your name, Lord, for its goodness,
P: Because from all distress you have rescued me,
and my eyes look down upon my enemies.
All: Glory be to the Father.
In case you where wondering.
Those "prayers" are from The Boondock Saints (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0144117/ (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0144117/)).
But of course.
Creative side of KotMC is on hold for now, been spending all my time fighting for Kourm. Single-handedly have put KotMC back on the top of the KB's for the past week. :3