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General Discussion => General Non-RP EVE Discussion => Topic started by: Kaldor Mintat on 25 May 2010, 21:46
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"Fifth Council of Stellar Management - Results are in!
The results of the recent council of stellar management are in. Mynxee has gained the position of chairman for CSM 5, receiving 4,116 votes. The nine council members in order of votes received are as follows: Mynxee, Ankhesentapemkah, Dierdra Vaal, Korvin, Vuk Lau, TeaDaze, Meissa Anunthiel, Trebor Daehdoow and Sokratesz.
The alternates, having come in positions 10 through 14, are mazzilliu, T'Amber, Helen Highwater, ALPHA12125 and ElvenLord.
Our congratulations to the elected members of the fifth CSM, and our thanks to all others who took part in the election. A dev blog with more information on the results will be published shortly after the EVE Online website returns to service."
Lets say there is one name there i had hoped not to see. Oh well, luckily the CSM has no real/direct power....
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Eh. There's one name I'd hoped not to see, too, but it's not the one I expect you mean.
Glad the candidate for whom I voted, TeaDaze, made it, and I count Mynxee as a friend so I'm glad to see that, too.
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Congrats to the winners.
I think whoever you didn't want to see, you can be happy that at least whatever power they do have is directed through a committee structure, too.
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Eh. There's one name I'd hoped not to see, too, but it's not the one I expect you mean.
Glad the candidate for whom I voted, TeaDaze, made it, and I count Mynxee as a friend so I'm glad to see that, too.
Well, its abit hard seems to me not to like Mynxee...even if she is/was a dirty pirate and now have changed to being mercenary scum.... ;)
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All hail Sokratesz :twisted:
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I'm pleased to see both Sok and Mynxee on the CSM, together they should more than counter Ankh, who I personally feel may not be qualified to play Eve, much less serve on the CSM. (This is in reference to her comments about PvP being OOC immoral. I...disagree.)
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I don't have a big problem with Ankh being on the CSM. It's purpose is to represent the viws of the players and there are a lot of 'bears out there.
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I don't have a big problem with Ankh being on the CSM. It's purpose is to represent the viws of the players and there are a lot of 'bears out there.
I don't think I have ever had a good interaction with Ankh on any topic. I remember being pretty exasperated with her in the FW roundtable at FF2008, where she kept saying how medals would be the cure all to making people happy with FW. Uhm...no. Wasn't she also the one that basically said "elect me, I have boobs" in the first election? As a woman, that kind of shit makes me want to cry.
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Tch, I have boobs. Maybe I should try for next CSM. xD
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Izzy for CSM chair? XD
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Beyond all the wordplay, scaremongering and bitching back and forth about who said what and how things were twisted, if I'm honest I really don't mind Ank being there at all.
A Pirate friend said it best that "Carebears need representing too" I just hope she does a good job of it.
Course she could suggest something stupid, and it'd get shouted down. But she wasn't the only one with really dumb ideas, infact I'd say Mynxee's comment of converting 1/3rd of highsec to lowsec was easily the daftest idea of any CSM candidate. Do I fear it'll come true with her in the chair? Do I hell, it's a group vote.
If I've any concerns it's more that some members of the CSM seem more focused on looking for ways in the upcoming meetings to make their colleagues look bad, than actually doing the job they were (bloc)voted in for.
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And all the CSM does is provide a voice to CCP. The suggestions made by that voice have to be balanced against CCP's own vision, technical constraints, and the rest of the feedback they get.
No matter what any CSM rep says (and I don't have any particular heartburn about Ankh or Mynxee or any of the actual reps), we're not actually going to get Hello Kitty Apocs.
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Dierdra got in, so it's all good.
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This is in reference to her comments about PvP being OOC immoral.
This is frightening.
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Beyond all the wordplay, scaremongering and bitching back and forth about who said what and how things were twisted, if I'm honest I really don't mind Ank being there at all.
A Pirate friend said it best that "Carebears need representing too" I just hope she does a good job of it.
Course she could suggest something stupid, and it'd get shouted down. But she wasn't the only one with really dumb ideas, infact I'd say Mynxee's comment of converting 1/3rd of highsec to lowsec was easily the daftest idea of any CSM candidate. Do I fear it'll come true with her in the chair? Do I hell, it's a group vote.
If I've any concerns it's more that some members of the CSM seem more focused on looking for ways in the upcoming meetings to make their colleagues look bad, than actually doing the job they were (bloc)voted in for.
I'm kinda an outsider being only now coming back and all but I agree with this, if this was a one person thing I'd agree to the whole 'no screw her' mindset around some forums, but on a group setting the whole point is to have many different views. If she does something dumb there seem to be enough smart people to go 'what, no shut up' and nip it in the bud, so it's hard to be too upset.
Grats to all the winners, this whole CSM is a really interesting idea that I'm glad Eve has.
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Am I the only one who totally apathetic to this entire CSM process? :oops: I really wish I could care...but I just can't.
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Am I the only one who totally apathetic to this entire CSM process? :oops: I really wish I could care...but I just can't.
Nope, you aren't the only one.
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I voted for Mynxee... I still don't have a lot of faith in the whole thing, so I tend to just look down the list and see if there's someone I like on it, and if so I vote for them. I voted for Jade the first time, voted for Alekseyev Kardde, voted for Larkonis Trassler... I think there might've been a CSM where I didn't vote at all, but I forget. Anyway yeah, go Mynxee! If we can't have RPer CSMs, then we can at least have pirate CSMs who're well-versed in how lowsec works currently and thus have good ideas on how to improve it.
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I don't have a big problem with Ankh being on the CSM. It's purpose is to represent the viws of the players and there are a lot of 'bears out there.
I don't think I have ever had a good interaction with Ankh on any topic. I remember being pretty exasperated with her in the FW roundtable at FF2008, where she kept saying how medals would be the cure all to making people happy with FW. Uhm...no. Wasn't she also the one that basically said "elect me, I have boobs" in the first election? As a woman, that kind of shit makes me want to cry.
A slightly unfair representation of her first CSM campaign but not without a kernel of truth to it.
On Ankh and interacting with her or, more particularly, her ideas... well, yes.
I find it a bit annoying that term limitations were junked because I think it will allow entrenching of particular incumbents with established and solid blocs for as long as they want to be on the thing.
I might be roused to feel more strongly about it if I believed that the CSM actually substantially changes anything these days. I fear that it really doesn't.
Nice idea but probably doomed if passive footlers are allowed to stay in their rotten borough positions on the thing till the crack 'o doom.
Cosmo
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I don't want a roleplayer CSM per se. I just want one that cares about immersion and maybe the fictional background. The rest is up to us.
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Didn't vote, did not care enough.
Been working with outdated industrial & corporate interface for years at this point; not expecting any grand overall anytime soon.
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I'm pleased to see both Sok and Mynxee on the CSM, together they should more than counter Ankh, who I personally feel may not be qualified to play Eve, much less serve on the CSM. (This is in reference to her comments about PvP being OOC immoral. I...disagree.)
What really puzzles me is why, if she really thinks PvP is bad, she goes and joins the Ammatar Free Corps (Which I still keep hearing as Freikorps).
Weird.
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Didn't vote, did not care enough.
Been working with outdated industrial & corporate interface for years at this point; not expecting any grand overall anytime soon.
It staggers me that storefronts have yet to be implemented.
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We did get PI, though, and that's not a bottle full of piss.
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We did get PI, though, and that's not a bottle full of piss.
Your right; PI is actually very interesting from an industrial, corp-building, supply chain, etc perspective. No single individual can actually acquire the raw material & manufacture all the components for building a POS (what the PI products go into) via PI. It will be interesting to see what the first PI produce POSs cost and the existence of POSs on the market may set artificial prices on these items (to include POS fuels).
Actually figuring this all out is no easy feat.
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I don't want a roleplayer CSM per se. I just want one that cares about immersion and maybe the fictional background. The rest is up to us.
Well said. That's more along the lines of what I was thinking when I made my post, actually.
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It staggers me that storefronts have yet to be implemented.
oh please this, yes this!, i was so sad when they scratched the whole thing
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We did get PI, though, and that's not a bottle full of piss.
Your right; PI is actually very interesting from an industrial, corp-building, supply chain, etc perspective. No single individual can actually acquire the raw material & manufacture all the components for building a POS (what the PI products go into) via PI. It will be interesting to see what the first PI produce POSs cost and the existence of POSs on the market may set artificial prices on these items (to include POS fuels).
Actually figuring this all out is no easy feat.
Well, you can just buy POS mods from NPC and reprocess to PI components, thanks to CCP's infinite wisdom... :roll: EVE-O fred (http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1324999)
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That is... frightening. Sorry for the derail.
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"Hey guys, releasing the command centers with the expansion will be unfair to people who didn't learn how to do PI on SiSi."
"Okay, but what do we do if somebody needs POS stuff between now and then?"
"Let's just leave them seeded until then."
"GREAT IDEA!"
:beer:
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The issue would be created either way. The problem is that the components/build cost and existing prices were not balanced from the start. Even after we can access the planetary resources we will still have a market lag that can only really be filled by pre-existing seeded POSs & POS equipment.