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Title: Like, Liking, Likes.
Post by: Syagrius on 01 Mar 2013, 16:28
Another player asked me yesterday why I "liked" their IGS posting, as our "characters" have opposing politics. 

I explained that for me, I don't necessarily see "liking" another persons post, in most cases, as an in-character occurrence. 

If "I" consider that a posting is well written, appropriate and advances the topic at hand, I may well "like" it.  Even if the posting is in opposition to James' opinion or point of view. 

They were of the opposite opinion that one should "like" only in-character. 

Lucky for me words like "should" have very little impact, that and James is perceived to have a loose grip on reality.  :D So can justify supporting things I sometimes oppose in-character in that manner. 

I was wondering what other players opinions regarding "liking" are.
Title: Re: Like, Liking, Likes.
Post by: Ghost Hunter on 01 Mar 2013, 17:00
I nearly avoid all use of the tool. The few exceptions tend to be IC posts I can see Ghost wanting to put his mark of approval on.

It's useful for avoiding "I agree" forum clutter, but not much else than that.
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Post by: Silas Vitalia on 01 Mar 2013, 17:14
I use them as a little wink that I approve.  Pretty OOC to me.

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Post by: Aldrith Shutaq on 01 Mar 2013, 17:25
Thanks for all those likes Silas! :D
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Post by: Lyn Farel on 01 Mar 2013, 17:36
At the beginning I almost never used them, most like Ghost.

Now I tend to use them ICly as well as OOcly (more OOCly though) to approve posts that I find well thought, written, etc, on the moment. I try to be the less biased possible and have given some likes even to the people I may have a few issues with OOCly, or to posts from the enemies of my character that she thinks insightful.

EDIT : actually since it's mostly OOC for me I consider it purely OOC anyway. At best it may be indicative OOCly that my character could approve the post (but not even sure).
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Post by: Vincent Pryce on 01 Mar 2013, 17:59
I'm sure this topic has been up here before. Anyhow, purely OOC for me.
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Post by: Nicoletta Mithra on 01 Mar 2013, 18:07
I usually like posts that I think of as making a good point or being well written. I mainly use it OOCly but really, Nico would like the posts similarly, regardless of whether they advance her point of view or the opposing: If a post is well written or makes agood point, she thinks, it either advances her point, gives her the chance to elaborate her point and sharpen her own position or make her realize that her point of view has been countered by argument and that she was wrong, giving her the opportunity to correct herself. Anyway, that is a good thing, in her book.
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Post by: Saede Riordan on 01 Mar 2013, 19:21
I consider it IC on the IGS, though loosely so. Its basically my character giving her stamp of approval to something she read.
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Post by: Matariki Rain on 01 Mar 2013, 19:41
IC on the IGS, although it can mean approval of an opposing view that's been well stated.
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Post by: Louella Dougans on 01 Mar 2013, 19:46
the like function has long since lost any IC value/relevance it had.

things like the "like and get likes" thread, and the various people that mass-like every post on the forums, mean that people accumulate likes at a silly rate.
a post of "no, you", can pick up dozens of likes from these things.

Which makes the number of likes just an indicator of how many posts someone makes.

it's all rather silly.
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Post by: BloodBird on 01 Mar 2013, 19:58
Completely OOC, to 'reward' well-made IC posts even of opposing views and statements. Some of the things toons don't get a like for is inane drivel to garner attention or towing the party-line in any way, like spewing the same old tired statements IC that are highly debatable, or sometimes out-right lies.
Title: Re: Like, Liking, Likes.
Post by: DeadRow on 01 Mar 2013, 20:00
I use it IC on the IGS.. but any Likes I might get I treat OOC unless I know them well enough so it might be IC.
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Post by: Ava Starfire on 01 Mar 2013, 20:15
I use them as a little wink that I approve.  Pretty OOC to me.

This.
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Post by: Gottii on 01 Mar 2013, 20:36
I use them as a little wink that I approve.  Pretty OOC to me.

This.

+1
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Post by: Natalcya Katla on 01 Mar 2013, 21:44
IC on the IGS, although it can mean approval of an opposing view that's been well stated.
This.
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Post by: Tabor Murn on 01 Mar 2013, 23:04
Generally they are OOC for me, but when possible I'll like with a character that would appreciate the post as well.
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Post by: Khloe on 02 Mar 2013, 00:52
I keep my approvals in-character, especially if they are visible to other characters/players. It's just another way to show support for people who align with my character's goals, and give me a potential opportunity for RP with someone I may never get to meet in space/chat rooms in-game.
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Post by: Arnulf Ogunkoya on 02 Mar 2013, 04:10
I tend to think of them as OOC.

I smiled recently because I made a mildly sarcastic IGS (https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2662227#post2662227) post about someone and found that the target had "liked" it.
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Post by: Desiderya on 02 Mar 2013, 06:58
I use it OOC as well. Given to posts I consider well written, like (duh) or that simply made me chuckle. ;)
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Post by: Lasairiona on 02 Mar 2013, 07:45
I use them for both really.  :)
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Post by: Safai on 02 Mar 2013, 18:05
The 'likes' I give out are 100% OOC, and I use them to give props to posts that are informative or entertaining yet don't really need a direct response.
Title: Re: Like, Liking, Likes.
Post by: Vieve on 03 Mar 2013, 12:32
I'm pretty sure if anyone ever asked me about the likes I've given, I could come up with an IC reason for them.  (Celeste, in particular, takes perverse delight in well-reasoned arguments, even if she disagrees with the person making the argument.)
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Post by: Esna Pitoojee on 03 Mar 2013, 13:00
Adding mine to the "OOC choice" pile. The like system is to heavily influenced by decidedly OOC cultures and factors for me to view it as totally IC.
Title: Re: Like, Liking, Likes.
Post by: Nicoletta Mithra on 03 Mar 2013, 13:00
(Celeste, in particular, takes perverse delight in well-reasoned arguments, even if she disagrees with the person making the argument.)
Since when is that type of delight perverse?  :o
Title: Re: Like, Liking, Likes.
Post by: Samira Kernher on 03 Mar 2013, 13:20
My likes are IC, typically for well-written stuff that Samira would agree with or respect regardless of who is posting it.

There's certain stuff though that I find a very good argument, but that Samira would be opposed to, so I don't 'like' those even though I'd like to. Ava's post here (https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2695867#post2695867) for example is something I really want to like because it's a spot-on perfect assessment that is impossible to argue against, but it'd be out of character to do so.
Title: Re: Like, Liking, Likes.
Post by: Vieve on 03 Mar 2013, 14:24
(Celeste, in particular, takes perverse delight in well-reasoned arguments, even if she disagrees with the person making the argument.)
Since when is that type of delight perverse?  :o

When she decides to be helpful and post points that the speaker could have made in order to have an even stronger argument.

Or, er, I should say:  "on those rare occasions when I feel like it wouldn't be too much trouble for me to have her decide to be helpful and post points that the speaker could have made in order to have an even stronger argument".   
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Post by: Nicoletta Mithra on 03 Mar 2013, 15:52
I still don't see that as perverse, otherwise every good philosopher would be a pervert. <.<
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Post by: Lunarisse Aspenstar on 04 Mar 2013, 14:31
I was kind of torn this with Luna.. first liking things because I thought it was well written or entertaining, then deciding Luna IC certainly wouldn't "like" it!  Since most people seem to treat it as OOC I won't fret about this anymore  :)
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Post by: kalaratiri on 04 Mar 2013, 14:35
I can't like things anymore because I'm not subscribed :(
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Post by: Syagrius on 04 Mar 2013, 19:39
I can't like things anymore because I'm not subscribed :(

 :(
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Post by: DeadRow on 04 Mar 2013, 19:47
I can't like things anymore because I'm not subscribed :(

Thats because you suck :<
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Post by: Graelyn on 04 Mar 2013, 20:31
I sure hope they're considered OOC, otherwise all the blood raider dudes are gonna be confused at my patronage...
Title: Re: Like, Liking, Likes.
Post by: Vieve on 04 Mar 2013, 20:35
I sure hope they're considered OOC, otherwise all the blood raider dudes are gonna be confused at my patronage...


It's clearly psychological warfare.
Title: Re: Like, Liking, Likes.
Post by: orange on 04 Mar 2013, 21:07
I sure hope they're considered OOC, otherwise all the blood raider dudes are gonna be confused at my patronage...

 :lol:
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Post by: Morwen Lagann on 05 Mar 2013, 08:20
If I +1 a post on the IGS, it's almost guaranteed to be IC.

Things that would make Morwen laugh, or would be something she would respond to with "I couldn't have said it better", tend to get +1s.

Does this mean she +1s Sansha loyalists sometimes? Sure. But those posts'll never be a "rah rah Nation is awesome ermagerd" kind of post.
Title: Re: Like, Liking, Likes.
Post by: Chell Charon on 05 Mar 2013, 08:28
IC.
Any further explanation into why's will be IC as well.  :)
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Post by: Sepherim on 05 Mar 2013, 18:41
Most of the time ICly. Some are just too good and receive the like even if Seph wouldn't give it, but those are very rare, and rarer each day as I understand Seph better and know what he likes or doesn't.
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Post by: Ché Biko on 06 Mar 2013, 11:08
I like IC posts IC, and until I read this thead, I assumed everyone else did too. My bad, I guess. :ugh: