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Title: [Chronicle] King Slaver
Post by: Ken on 15 Nov 2010, 12:44
http://www.eveonline.com/background/potw/default.asp?cid=15-11-10

Discuss.
Title: Re: [Chronicle] King Slaver
Post by: Casiella on 15 Nov 2010, 13:11
Oh yes. Minmatar grimdark.
Title: Re: [Chronicle] King Slaver
Post by: Graelyn on 15 Nov 2010, 17:47
The prisoner is an RPer.

Let the rest fall into place.  ;)
Title: Re: [Chronicle] King Slaver
Post by: Random Lost Soul on 15 Nov 2010, 22:15
The prisoner is an RPer.

Let the rest fall into place.  ;)
Yes.  Exactly that.
Title: Re: [Chronicle] King Slaver
Post by: Casiella on 15 Nov 2010, 23:02
That's an interesting allegory, if true. Just re-read it with that in mind, and I need to chew on it a little more.
Title: Re: [Chronicle] King Slaver
Post by: Akrasjel Lanate on 16 Nov 2010, 03:41
Nice
Title: Re: [Chronicle] King Slaver
Post by: Inara Subaka on 16 Nov 2010, 11:55
<3 Abraxas

There are so many ways that you can read into this, depending on the situation you find yourself in and how you view what happens. It's one of the reasons I like Abraxas' work so much, while he probably has an intended goal, he's not limiting the story to be only about what he meant initially.

When I first read it, I first thought the "King" was the warden who wanted people to come to him in the woods. As a sign of 'rehabilitation' and/or growth in their Faith. Then I got to the end, and the fellowship with the slaver hound solidified it (at the time). Animals are typically more aware of what's going on around them than most give them credit for, and the change in attitude from before and after 47 spoke to the King would be noticeable to them (could be a change they were trained to acknowledge as 'not-food').

However, having read it a couple times, here's a few more ways to try reading it: Consider that the "King" in the woods is just another layer of control that is intentionally put there by the guards. Or, the "King" is possibly a believer/leader in one of the radical elements of one of the branches of the Amarr Faith (["I'm glad you found the faith," the King told him.] sounds like something I remember from a Tetrimon story iirc). Or, maybe the change in behavior of the guards towards the people who follow the King is just a byproduct of a change in their attitudes; the guards don't know about the King, but they do know that some of the prisoners behave and help them out without causing trouble, so they don't harass them with their 'games'.

There are a LOT of little details that are simply beautiful, and this is one of the few times I want to see a full story on one of the chron characters.
Title: Re: [Chronicle] King Slaver
Post by: Random Lost Soul on 16 Nov 2010, 13:07
When I first read it, I first thought the "King" was the warden who wanted people to come to him in the woods. As a sign of 'rehabilitation' and/or growth in their Faith. Then I got to the end, and the fellowship with the slaver hound solidified it (at the time). Animals are typically more aware of what's going on around them than most give them credit for, and the change in attitude from before and after 47 spoke to the King would be noticeable to them (could be a change they were trained to acknowledge as 'not-food').

However, having read it a couple times, here's a few more ways to try reading it: Consider that the "King" in the woods is just another layer of control that is intentionally put there by the guards. Or, the "King" is possibly a believer/leader in one of the radical elements of one of the branches of the Amarr Faith (["I'm glad you found the faith," the King told him.] sounds like something I remember from a Tetrimon story iirc). Or, maybe the change in behavior of the guards towards the people who follow the King is just a byproduct of a change in their attitudes; the guards don't know about the King, but they do know that some of the prisoners behave and help them out without causing trouble, so they don't harass them with their 'games'.
"King Slaver" is analogous to "Top Dog".  I take it none of you have ever been to prison or a mental hospital?  :P 

Welcome to the madhouse.
Title: Re: [Chronicle] King Slaver
Post by: Casiella on 16 Nov 2010, 13:14
I take it none of you have ever been to prison or a mental hospital?  :P 

Welcome to the madhouse.

What have you heard?!?!
Title: Re: [Chronicle] King Slaver
Post by: Saede Riordan on 16 Nov 2010, 18:47
When I first read it, I first thought the "King" was the warden who wanted people to come to him in the woods. As a sign of 'rehabilitation' and/or growth in their Faith. Then I got to the end, and the fellowship with the slaver hound solidified it (at the time). Animals are typically more aware of what's going on around them than most give them credit for, and the change in attitude from before and after 47 spoke to the King would be noticeable to them (could be a change they were trained to acknowledge as 'not-food').

However, having read it a couple times, here's a few more ways to try reading it: Consider that the "King" in the woods is just another layer of control that is intentionally put there by the guards. Or, the "King" is possibly a believer/leader in one of the radical elements of one of the branches of the Amarr Faith (["I'm glad you found the faith," the King told him.] sounds like something I remember from a Tetrimon story iirc). Or, maybe the change in behavior of the guards towards the people who follow the King is just a byproduct of a change in their attitudes; the guards don't know about the King, but they do know that some of the prisoners behave and help them out without causing trouble, so they don't harass them with their 'games'.
"King Slaver" is analogous to "Top Dog".  I take it none of you have ever been to prison or a mental hospital?  :P 

Welcome to the madhouse.
thats what I was thinking as well, there could be more to it, but honestly, this one seems pretty straightforward
Title: Re: [Chronicle] King Slaver
Post by: Casiella on 16 Nov 2010, 19:07
thats what I was thinking as well, there could be more to it, but honestly, this one seems pretty straightforward

I'll have to disagree (http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1415411&page=2#37).
Title: Re: [Chronicle] King Slaver
Post by: Random Lost Soul on 16 Nov 2010, 19:25
thats what I was thinking as well, there could be more to it, but honestly, this one seems pretty straightforward

I'll have to disagree (http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1415411&page=2#37).
;)