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[Pieter Tuulinen]

The good guys won, with minor casualties. The bad guys perished to a man.

It's a pretty good day to be a gangsta. And if gangsta's can have good days, then why can't Caldari Loyalists? There is such a thing as being TOO grimdark.

[Victoria Stecker]

And if gangsta's can have good days, then why can't Caldari Loyalists? There is such a thing as being TOO grimdark.

I got a good chuckle out of this.

[Valdezi]

There is such a thing as being TOO grimdark.

I've been thinking about this for the last few days. They way the story is going, it seems as if it is heading back towards peace. The whole CP as a DMZ things seems as if it will resolve some elements of the Cal-Gal conflict, as that seemed to be the elephant in the room. Will CCP actually allow one of the storylines to resolve peacefully? Or will there be a bitter, Malkalen-style twist?

[Vikarion]

There is such a thing as being TOO grimdark.

I've been thinking about this for the last few days. They way the story is going, it seems as if it is heading back towards peace. The whole CP as a DMZ things seems as if it will resolve some elements of the Cal-Gal conflict, as that seemed to be the elephant in the room. Will CCP actually allow one of the storylines to resolve peacefully? Or will there be a bitter, Malkalen-style twist?

No one will cry if CCP ends FW between the Fed and State.

[BloodBird]

There is such a thing as being TOO grimdark.

I've been thinking about this for the last few days. They way the story is going, it seems as if it is heading back towards peace. The whole CP as a DMZ things seems as if it will resolve some elements of the Cal-Gal conflict, as that seemed to be the elephant in the room. Will CCP actually allow one of the storylines to resolve peacefully? Or will there be a bitter, Malkalen-style twist?

No one will cry if CCP ends FW between the Fed and State.

The PVP hungry masses in the FEDEF will.

Then they will join the Minmatar.

Then I guess we know who might be crying.

That aside, I seriously don't see FW between Fed and State ending anytime soon, but that brings up the question, what do the Caldari have left to fight for now?

EVE being the shitty place to live in that it is, I expect the previously mentioned grimdark hitting the fan and getting spread out everywhere to happen sooner or later.

[orange]

That aside, I seriously don't see FW between Fed and State ending anytime soon, but that brings up the question, what do the Caldari have left to fight for now?

I think it is possible to reframe the war, but the Heth storyline makes it a challenge.

The war could have been triggered by the revelation that there were Caldari colonies in Black Rise, an area of space the Federation attempted to explore during the War of Secession and may even have laid claim to.   But that would change who the aggressor is in the conflict.

So, control of Black Rise for one and then wider access to the resources of Placid.  But that makes it a classic, non-ideological war.  It becomes a clear war about the bottom line and taxes.

[Iwan Terpalen]

You say that like it's a bad thing.

[Mithfindel]

As a note, capsuleers were capsuleers. I was in Grideris's fleet, and I did get paid part of a bounty on one of the Peace and Order Unit Ravens. (Someone even broadcast a target call on one.) There were more of Templis Dragonaurs ships than Peace and Order Unit ships, but other than that, the only advantage they had was CNRs vs. T1 Ravens, the fits were the same (+1 launcher for CNRs, no comment on implants). Of course, players stacked the odds more or less to the POU side.

[Lithium Flower]

- where SuVee convoy was destroyed --> something happens(this didn't happen but did he had a scenerio in case it happend? )

Freighters were not attackable. We followed them all the way from Yashunen to Luminaire with hope to drop them 

I think they would simply not undock if SuVee's were destroyed first, and that's what Falcon planned, but suddenly *Grideris* 

And I think that it should be made the way, that while alive peoples (not only Templis Ships, but capsuleers also) were sitting on undock, freighters couldn't depart, than this would have more sense. (Since actors were broadcasting for capsuleers to clear undocking thing, and we were like no no we won't go, but they still undocked their freighters regardless)

[Lithium Flower]

There is such a thing as being TOO grimdark.

I've been thinking about this for the last few days. They way the story is going, it seems as if it is heading back towards peace. The whole CP as a DMZ things seems as if it will resolve some elements of the Cal-Gal conflict, as that seemed to be the elephant in the room. Will CCP actually allow one of the storylines to resolve peacefully? Or will there be a bitter, Malkalen-style twist?

No one will cry if CCP ends FW between the Fed and State.

The PVP hungry masses in the FEDEF will.

Then they will join the Minmatar.

Then I guess we know who might be crying.

That aside, I seriously don't see FW between Fed and State ending anytime soon, but that brings up the question, what do the Caldari have left to fight for now?

EVE being the shitty place to live in that it is, I expect the previously mentioned grimdark hitting the fan and getting spread out everywhere to happen sooner or later.

IMHO the idea behind all these is to make more conflicts, not less. I don't think that in the end CCP plans to shut down FW in one or both areas. It more looks like that  they want more ships to go boom, we want more fun getting others ships go boom. So, it is all about boom.
If not boom today, then boom tomorrow.
There's always boom.

[Tiberious Thessalonia]

FW is a game mechanic.  It is never ending.

[Anslol]

I voted that they bumped the CNR off dock range but...meh...

[Morwen Lagann]

FW is a game mechanic.  It is never ending.

Like Incursions. All my goddamn fucking rage.

[Grideris]

- where SuVee convoy was destroyed --> something happens(this didn't happen but did he had a scenerio in case it happend? )

Freighters were not attackable. We followed them all the way from Yashunen to Luminaire with hope to drop them 

I think they would simply not undock if SuVee's were destroyed first, and that's what Falcon planned, but suddenly *Grideris* 

And I think that it should be made the way, that while alive peoples (not only Templis Ships, but capsuleers also) were sitting on undock, freighters couldn't depart, than this would have more sense. (Since actors were broadcasting for capsuleers to clear undocking thing, and we were like no no we won't go, but they still undocked their freighters regardless)

I admit it. I broke everything. 

Also, I kept shouting at everyone to not shoot the POU guys. Looks like some didn't listen >.>

[Mithfindel]

Also, I kept shouting at everyone to not shoot the POU guys. Looks like some didn't listen >.>

As mentioned, I was in your fleet. Someone even broadcast one of the SuVee Ravens, I promptly jammed it before noticing who it was. At least I did not shoot Scherezad, ok?