Backstage - OOC Forums
EVE-Online RP Discussion and Resources => EVE OOC Summit => Topic started by: Silver Night on 19 Apr 2010, 09:04
-
Nugoeihuvi (http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Nugoeihuvi_Corporation_(NPC_corporation)) has some interesting RP possibilities.
It focuses on the entertainment industry (though given it is a Megacorp it no doubt does many other things too.) It is known for often skirting the edge of the law, which as a Megacorp has to mean some pretty serious shenanigans.
It is also 'global' with many stations in places like the Republic and Syndicate.
Few interesting news items:
Caldari Wildlife Preserve in Legal Dispute (http://community.eveonline.com/news/news-channels/eve-online-news/caldari-wildlife-preserve-in-legal-dispute/)
NOH Executives Divert Essential Supplies (http://community.eveonline.com/news/news-channels/eve-online-news/noh-executives-divert-essential-supplies/)
NOH Attempts to Trademark Ev0ke for use on Merchandise (http://community.eveonline.com/news/news-channels/eve-online-news/noh-attempts-to-trademark-ev0ke-for-use-on-merchandise/)
-
I have picked up a few interesting entries on Nugoeihuvi (http://eveonlinelorebook.x10hosting.com/Groups/nugoeihuvi_corporation.htm)from the Caldari epic arc.
I remember the entry in the epic arc journal, if you complete the arc siding with Nugoeihuvi, about how surprising it was that the NOH agent would hand you the reminder of the budget for your contract instead of keeping it for himself, and that perhaps NOH not was so bad after all.
-
You guys think that maybe each Mega has internal entertainment stuff, but NOH stuff might be fairly pervasive too?
Maybe NOH is regarded (in this narrow context) as 'better' than most of the 'home' Mega's material?
-
It's been a while since I did the Caldari COSMOS part that involved NOH, and I also ran some missions for them at some point. Their background appealed to me, and I was looking for a way to tie it into my Cartel RP somehow. Unfortunately, other than the obvious 'below the counter' operations and entertainment industry, I haven't found anything of use yet.
But perhaps I'm just not looking hard enough.
-
There is also this gem, which makes me go all 'conspiracy theory':
http://www.eveonline.com/news.asp?a=single&nid=3802&tid=6
NOH were the ones making the documentary... I can't help but suspect that NOH are trying to set up conflict between the Patriots and the Liberals (since NOH are Practicals). Underhanded of them.
But then again, perhaps I'm overthinking it. Maybe they were just making an honest documentary. Perhaps a spade really is just a spade.
Maybe it would be interesting for Kivuli to become a neurotic Ishukone who sees internal threats behind every action.
-
COLD-WING are NOH aligned.
-
A recent deal between a Swedish and a North Korean company reminds me a lot of the ´State. Can't remember the exact details, but it was a marketing idea to sell jeans made in North Korea. The biggest textile manufacturer didn't want the deal, but another manufacturer named Factory n:o 9 or something very Ostalgic like that took the deal. Their main business was mining, but they also had a few other businesses as well. Part of the deal, they required stuff like Adobe Acrobat to be able to read the docs sent to them from Sweden etc., and at one point asked if the retailers in Sweden could send them zinc-processing equipment.
-
Anyone know more about NOH's criminal connections?
-
From Masks of Authority (http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Masks_of_Authority_(Chronicle))
Internal Security, the Nugoeihuvi Corporation's force, poses a curious irony in this regard. Though the Nugoeihuvi conglomerate’s main preoccupation is the entertainment industry, they have consistently failed to change the prevalent cultural image of their troops as a pack of rough-and-tumble thugs culled from the Caldari underworld, given to the grossest abuses and atrocities. It’s very rare for elements of the Caldari State to find the rumor mill outgrinding them in their efforts at propaganda, but that’s what’s happening to Nugoeihuvi. (In reality, for the record, Nugoeihuvi’s soldiers are not any more or less savage than those of the other corporate forces, though broadly speaking they have been noted to harbor a slightly greater proclivity toward drink and drugs.)
Lots of neat tid-bits of info in there.
-
I need to visit the other sections of this forum more often.
Anyone know more about NOH's criminal connections?
I would guess anyone, mostly because its simple. Some of their connections may be aligned against the State, but the way I see NOH is that if theyre making a profit they dont really care that much as long as they dont get caught or at the very least have plausible deniability.
Given that they have stations in all four empires the door on that one is pretty open. Syndicate, Serpentis, Angel Cartel all make good sense. Even the Guristas arent really out of the question, and are probably at the top of the list tbh. I dont see much connection to the Blood Raiders or Sanshas Nation, but I dont really know much about either of those groups, so I may be missing something.
-
I have done Caldari and Gallente COSMOS, as well as the Guristas and Angel Cartel agentsin Caldari COSMOS, and frankly, if you want to have a metric fuckton of fun with Caldari RP, NOH is the ripest apple in the basket.
-
I'd imagine NOH having connections to various pirate cartels, in the way that the American Mafia conducted business with Hollywood execs and political figures.
Also, this guy:
(http://jakemcmillan.files.wordpress.com/2010/05/eliotcarver1.jpg)
Bonus points if you guess what movie this villain is from, and how amazingly perfect he would be as NOH's CEO. And how he somehow looks like my character.
-
"Tomorrow Never Dies" - he plays the CEO of the News Agency.
-
And he's largely (or at least partly) based on Rupert Murdoch.
-
Fox News = entertainment / news, NOH = criminal activities + entertainment.
b
-
A note on crime: That corporate immunity would be a pretty damn good thing if you happen to be smuggling. Of course, this is just a wild guess based on them having stations all round the place. Most would be investments etc., since obviously they cannot stick a NOH logo on anything that's obviously illegal. However, they likely are more suspectible to accept ISK from shady sources - or use subsidiaries as front corporations - and thus benefit from ISK laundry.
Some items also seem to hint to illegal arms trade. Gurista connections certainly aren't out of question.
http://games.chruker.dk/eve_online/item.php?type_id=21616 (http://games.chruker.dk/eve_online/item.php?type_id=21616)
http://games.chruker.dk/eve_online/item.php?type_id=21046 (http://games.chruker.dk/eve_online/item.php?type_id=21046)
-
I wonder if those are from a mission series or such...
-
COSMOS maybe?
-
Forgot one item, since it wasn't a hit in the item DB: One of the Epic Arc rewards is a Nugoeihuvi-brand Blue Pill booster. They likely could have a hand in the manufacture and retail of, um, "recreational chemicals"?
-
Confirming those items mentioned above are from highsec Caldari Cosmos. NOH is involved in smuggling, money laundering, and blackmail in said arc.
-
I think NOH is unusual in that (at least OOC) there is a definite perception that there is more focus (entertainment) than with other megacorps.
Do you folks think that is the perception IC for most people?
What other industries might NOH be heavy into?
Shipping (and all it's traditional criminal variations).
How about intellectual property stuff, Eve style? NOH has offices all over. I could see it not-quite-copying other people's patents and inventions for the Caldari market, or using it's army of lawyers to screw over some smaller company that was silly enough to think just because they created something first, they had the rights to it. :D
-
When speaking of NOH inner workings, dealings and alignments one has to keep in mind it's a practical Corp. with all that this implies.
-
When speaking of NOH inner workings, dealings and alignments one has to keep in mind it's a practical Corp. with all that this implies.
That's kinda where I was approaching it from. There might also be a broader debate there about whether 'practical' means that the corporation is all about the bottom line, or about the 'greater good' of the corporation (and what that is) - and whether or not those things are sometimes different.
OFC, 'Practical' is also just a sort of rough political delineation, and there are probably a lot of subtleties to the whole thing, too.
-
Do any of the other COSMOS nerds remember, in Ihakana, if that huge contingent of Kazka Bandits, mostly battleships, was blockading the NOH station? Or protecting it? I can't remember for the life of me as it has been so long.
-
Remember NOH also disrupted the Ishukone even awhile back when Aurora was still around when I believe IShukone was buying a patent or some such from a scientist working on a top secret project. Omerta Syndicate was involved with NOH, where they destroyed the research station being used.
So I'm also guessing NOH is probably involved with cloak and daggers kind of operations, stopping other corporations from getting too much of an upper hand.
-
Well, it makes sense that they would sabotage the competition (and being NOH, probably through whatever available means. Not that other corps are all a great deal more scrupulous.)
You happen to remember around when that was, so I can try and find new items and forum posts?
-
COSMOS maybe?
It is the Caldari COSMOs missions.
-
Well, it makes sense that they would sabotage the competition (and being NOH, probably through whatever available means. Not that other corps are all a great deal more scrupulous.)
You happen to remember around when that was, so I can try and find new items and forum posts?
Not really no. You can try asking Kyoko Sakoda, Kale Ryoko, or Yuki Li as they were all there and may have better memories of when it happened than I do; I can't remember when it went down but the bugged research station respawning during the event was awesome as the Aurora guy didn't know how to respond to it xD
-
It implies others doing the laundry!
-
What other industries might NOH be heavy into?
- Soft drinks, competing with Quafe. (is Starsi a NOH product?)
- Hard drinks. Everything from cheap-ass stuff that doubles as drain cleaner to high-end spirits (I'm imagining absinthe rather than whiskey and vodka here, though NOH would probably cover the entire spectrum of liquor.)
- Drugs. Covered. Is it possible that drug laws are less restrictive in NOH territories?
- The entire TV/Holo/Film spectra. They probably produce most of the media in the State, and are definitely overrepresented in the media exported from the State.
- Newspapers, Tabloids, Specialist Magazines and book publishing.
- Audio/Music. All genres, most of which we haven't even heard of. They have probably also ripped off the Egonics technology or are doing their best to compete with that by other means.
- Games, ranging from boardgames to video games to sports leagues (See the NOH team play ball in the NOH league on a NOH channel).
- Consumer electronics. Like modern companies like HP, they probably run a big pile of brands and sub-companies ranging from economy choice to Apple-analogues to diamond-plated and platinum-studded extravagance.
- Cybernetics.
- Jewelry
- Clothes
- Vehicles. Luxury sports cars, motorbikes, futuristic aircraft and personal jets.
- Travel companies. (Charter and tourism, smuggling and "special needs")
- Prostitution
- Racketeering ("I see you want to run an independent news outlet...")
- "Sponsorships" with "Anonymous parties"
- Novelty keychains
-
Gambling. Caldari are crazy gamblers. Most of it is legal, but I'd bet NOH does have a share in the illegal gambling venues, too - either directly or indirectly.
-
The gambling is an aspect of Caldari culture that might be explored more in general really. In fact, I might just make a thread...