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Purity of the Throne [P-THR] - Join the Movement
Ilan Ardishapur:
I suspect the movement in all its forms has differing views on the legitimacy of the Khanid line. This movement (P-THR) under the guidance of Ilan Ardishapur views them in poor light, being more of a entrenched traditionalist. That of course may change depending on the views of others that join the movement.
Morwen Lagann:
As far as Jamyl is concerned, all it takes is common sense to deduce that she was a clone. She died. In full view of witnesses - her capsule self-destructed. And then she came back. You basically have to be willfully deluding yourself (or believing "alternative facts," lol) to believe she was not a clone.
Claiming otherwise only serves to suit the purpose of toeing the party line within the Empire. She's still as dead as a can of spam at this point, regardless.
Ilan Ardishapur:
People like Ilan are indeed the type to willfully delude themselves. I'm sure many within the Empire do as well.
Ashley:
--- Quote from: Morwen Lagann on 06 Feb 2017, 14:44 ---As far as Jamyl is concerned, all it takes is common sense to deduce that she was a clone. She died. In full view of witnesses - her capsule self-destructed. And then she came back. You basically have to be willfully deluding yourself (or believing "alternative facts," lol) to believe she was not a clone.
Claiming otherwise only serves to suit the purpose of toeing the party line within the Empire. She's still as dead as a can of spam at this point, regardless.
--- End quote ---
Well, yeah it is Empire.
It is wilful ignorance for the most part or farseeing pragmatism, I would imagine citizens aren't thrilled to talk about that their hero Empress who saved them from minmatar invasion was a soulless heretic. Pomik probably helped the more talkative types to understand that it is safer and more productive to accept that it was a Will of God or something in that manner. If amarr can't accept that it was a Will of God, divine providence or whatever, then their faith is not absolute that in turn makes them a lousy faithful. So no gates of paradise for them.
And that's completely eluding the fact that Empire is an authoritarian state, where if you make to big of a waves you will find yourself on a bus with a one way ticket to Diemnon and your family will get tickets for the next such educational trip. xD
Also, common sense and deduction are good, but not a lot of people can claim that they were "holding the candle" when and where cloning happened. That make it an assumption, a sensible and reasonable one, but still just an assumption.
Utari Onzo:
Just to remind everyone here that the original point on Jamyl's cloning was on its IC 'relevation' which implies a solid IC confirmation, where there hasn't been, and the Puritan's stance on that. Discussions on the extent of how far one can reasonably and logically deduce she was a clone might be better placed in a separate thread from this recruitment one.
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