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Title: Ardishapur Speaking Tour [Updated 5/13]
Post by: Silver Night on 26 Apr 2010, 11:51
So, there have been several news items:

Ardishapur to begin empire-wide speaking tour (http://www.eveonline.com/news.asp?a=single&nid=3825&tid=4) - (4/13)

Ardishapur focuses on ''roots of the faith'' and ''embracing new races into the traditional fold'' (http://www.eveonline.com/news.asp?a=single&nid=3826&tid=4) - (4/16)

Initial Ardishapur speaking engagements ''doing well'' (http://www.eveonline.com/news.asp?a=single&nid=3827&tid=2) - (4/26)

Aridshapur holding public court during engagements in own domains. (http://www.eveonline.com/news.asp?a=single&nid=3828&tid=2) - (5/5)

Ardishapur refutes claims he has overstepped bounds of power. (http://www.eveonline.com/news.asp?a=single&nid=3829&tid=2) - (5/10)

Calls rise for ardishapur to be given more authority (http://www.eveonline.com/news.asp?a=single&nid=3830&tid=2) - (5/13)

There was also this article a few weeks before, showing Ardishapur was already hardly camera-shy:

Yonis Ardishapur addresses badly shaken empire, sends personal fleet to assist with relief efforts (http://www.eveonline.com/news.asp?a=single&nid=3767&tid=4) - (3/25)

So, what's Ardishapur up to? I don't get the impression that building support among the populace is usually something that Heirs worry about - and he also seems to be garnering support among some holders, from the news item.

Title: Re: Ardishapur Speaking Tour
Post by: Casiella on 26 Apr 2010, 12:14
Man's gonna die.

And I intend to blame Havo...
Title: Re: Ardishapur Speaking Tour
Post by: Ghost Hunter on 26 Apr 2010, 14:39
He had his sights on becoming the Emperor, such popularity building will greatly help him.
Title: Re: Ardishapur Speaking Tour
Post by: Silver Night on 26 Apr 2010, 15:05
He had his sights on becoming the Emperor, such popularity building will greatly help him.

Well, it ain't a democracy, though, is it? Though some support is good and probably required - particularly among the holders, I imagine.
Title: Re: Ardishapur Speaking Tour
Post by: Ghost Hunter on 26 Apr 2010, 15:29
I'm retarded. "If he had his sights...".

But yes, it's not a democracy but an unpopular ruler is quitely dealt away with, especially if those in power don't agree with him. The commoners may be a side affect if he gets a hold on the Holders.
Title: Re: Ardishapur Speaking Tour
Post by: Seriphyn on 26 Apr 2010, 15:55
Man's gonna die.

And I intend to blame Havo...

Actually, this is exactly the impression I got. He's got "deadmeat" stamped on his forehead, assassination I bet. Make him all seem loved by everyone et cetera before BAM, he dies and everyone gets incensed.

Have been wrong before.
Title: Re: Ardishapur Speaking Tour
Post by: Silver Night on 26 Apr 2010, 18:22
Man's gonna die.

And I intend to blame Havo...

Actually, this is exactly the impression I got. He's got "deadmeat" stamped on his forehead, assassination I bet. Make him all seem loved by everyone et cetera before BAM, he dies and everyone gets incensed.

Have been wrong before.

But who is it that will do it, and who will it get pinned on?
Title: Re: Ardishapur Speaking Tour
Post by: Casiella on 26 Apr 2010, 18:31
Bloody Hands of Matar seems to have reactivated itself lately...
Title: Re: Ardishapur Speaking Tour
Post by: Silver Night on 26 Apr 2010, 18:43
More exploding stations soon?
Title: Re: Ardishapur Speaking Tour
Post by: Casiella on 26 Apr 2010, 18:55
I wonder whether CCP has other ideas for in-space representation of storyline events... blown-up stations and planets are cool, but we needz moar.
Title: Re: Ardishapur Speaking Tour
Post by: Mithfindel on 27 Apr 2010, 01:23
As a note, has it been mentioned who is the audience? For all that we know, Yonis might be talking to local Holders. Well, some commoners get to hear him, too, but that's just the cherry on top of the thing. Good morale and stuff, less likely to revolt should the Holders be more loyal to him than the Empress.

And on Yonis dying: If the tour is successful, he'd be a martyr. I assume that he's wise enough to have named a heir well in advance. His death would just mean that Ardishapur would become a lot more powerful, with a new Heir getting a big boost on the "royal martyr". Admitted, it's possible that the younger Ardishapur would be some kind of a loonie, but I'd say that it's a given that he's religious. (After all, well, Ardishapur.).
Title: Re: Ardishapur Speaking Tour
Post by: Rodj Blake on 27 Apr 2010, 02:10
I'm retarded. "If he had his sights...".

But yes, it's not a democracy but an unpopular ruler is quitely dealt away with, especially if those in power don't agree with him. The commoners may be a side affect if he gets a hold on the Holders.

"The Mob" was at times a major factor in Roman politics, and I've always imagined this is the case in Amarr as well - the people who accompanied Brother Joshua to Kor-Azor Prime were mainly commoners.
Title: Re: Ardishapur Speaking Tour
Post by: Yoshito Sanders on 27 Apr 2010, 02:40
And on Yonis dying: If the tour is successful, he'd be a martyr. I assume that he's wise enough to have named a heir well in advance. His death would just mean that Ardishapur would become a lot more powerful, with a new Heir getting a big boost on the "royal martyr". Admitted, it's possible that the younger Ardishapur would be some kind of a loonie, but I'd say that it's a given that he's religious. (After all, well, Ardishapur.).

His heir is his nephew Arim Ardishapur. He's been mentioned a few times in news posts, including the first one in this arc.

So far he's done three things: purchased the family of the disgraced Ammatar Mandate Fleet admiral after they were enslaved as punishment, stood in for Yonis when Khanid was meeting with the Privy Council, and running things while his uncle is on tour.
Title: Re: Ardishapur Speaking Tour
Post by: lallara zhuul on 27 Apr 2010, 03:05
There is historical precedent for the Ardishapur to act upon the Will of God and get rid of unwanted Emperors.

I hope they respect that tradition and kill the abomination that is on the Golden Throne.
Title: Re: Ardishapur Speaking Tour
Post by: Aldrith Shutaq on 01 May 2010, 13:19
Three words:

Amarrian Civil War.

Discuss.
Title: Re: Ardishapur Speaking Tour
Post by: Casiella on 01 May 2010, 13:34
Total anarchy and chaos as all four empires descend into fratricide. \o/
Title: Re: Ardishapur Speaking Tour
Post by: Silver Night on 01 May 2010, 19:53
Is there clear PF somewhere on what exactly the selection process for a new Emperor is supposed to be like?
Title: Re: Ardishapur Speaking Tour
Post by: Esna Pitoojee on 01 May 2010, 21:10
The chronicle "Succession Trials" (http://www.eveonline.com/background/potw/default.asp?cid=may04) gives a basic overview, but I don't think anyone has layed down in exact detail all of the trials.
Title: Re: Ardishapur Speaking Tour
Post by: Rodj Blake on 04 May 2010, 08:49
There's also a load of stuff in the news archive about the selection of Doriam in 2003, which involved players.  This was itself a bit of a break from tradition.

A good place to start is http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Amarr_Championship (http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Amarr_Championship)
Title: Re: Ardishapur Speaking Tour
Post by: Rodj Blake on 04 May 2010, 08:53
Three words:

Amarrian Civil War.

Discuss.

CCP don't have the balls to do it properly.   The most we'll get is a coup (with some fighting during a DT).
Title: Re: Ardishapur Speaking Tour
Post by: Kaldor Mintat on 04 May 2010, 10:59
Three words:

Amarrian Civil War.

Discuss.

CCP don't have the balls to do it properly.   The most we'll get is a coup (with some fighting during a DT).


Would have been nice seeing real events again (not that i ever did. Way before my time). Hope never dies...but its withered rather badly though...
Title: Re: Ardishapur Speaking Tour
Post by: Casiella on 04 May 2010, 11:44
CCP don't have the balls to do it properly.   The most we'll get is a coup (with some fighting during a DT).

In my view, it's less a question of "balls" and more a question of the resources and planning required to do this properly. That sort of transition for the game would present a rather significant design challenge and not just some news stories.
Title: Re: Ardishapur Speaking Tour [Updated 5/5]
Post by: Silver Night on 05 May 2010, 22:43
Added the latest piece.
Title: Re: Ardishapur Speaking Tour [Updated 5/10]
Post by: Silver Night on 10 May 2010, 10:45
Added another peice. This one seems to suggest that Kador is supportive of what Aridshapur is doing - whatever that ultimately is.
Title: Re: Ardishapur Speaking Tour [Updated 5/13]
Post by: Silver Night on 13 May 2010, 09:43
Updated 5/13. Things are so far heading in a predictable but interesting direction.
Title: Re: Ardishapur Speaking Tour [Updated 5/13]
Post by: Casiella on 13 May 2010, 09:45
+DED+
Title: Re: Ardishapur Speaking Tour [Updated 5/13]
Post by: scagga on 13 May 2010, 18:53
As long as we get yonis variant abaddon, all's well!
Title: Re: Ardishapur Speaking Tour [Updated 5/13]
Post by: Kaleigh Doyle on 13 May 2010, 20:28
*shows up for the spanking tour*