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Title: Moment of Truth
Post by: ArtOfLight on 16 Aug 2012, 11:30
So, I currently have two accounts: One with Malcolm Khross on it and one with Azdan Amith on it.

Both are nearing their subscription expiry dates and I am only able to afford to keep one going. I refuse to do a character transfer because it costs $20 and is therefore $20 more expensive than simply paying for one subscription to continue while the other dies.

I've been focusing on Azdan a lot lately but I being to wonder if that's the prudent thing for me to do. I do have fun with him, but I wonder what others think of him. Is he fun to interact with? Does he bastardize the Amarr viewpoint? Is he insufferable?  :roll:

I ask only because I am the type of person that wants others to enjoy interacting with (or against) my characters and I know that I can accomplish that with Malcolm, but I wonder if I am accomplishing that with Azdan.
Title: Re: Moment of Truth
Post by: Karmilla Strife on 16 Aug 2012, 11:34
I like Azdan, but I'm biased.  :)
Title: Re: Moment of Truth
Post by: ArtOfLight on 16 Aug 2012, 11:37
I've made some rather lengthy posts (read: Great Wall of China Text) on IGS mostly today and yesterday that contain a lot of how Azdan thinks and the angle I'm taking with him regarding the Amarr faith and the Empire. I suspect a good number of PIE will find a few things they disagree with and despise therein.

Title: Re: Moment of Truth
Post by: Jev North on 16 Aug 2012, 11:43
I'm biased towards Malcolm, obviously 'cause I got to shoot at him once and have an urge to do it again.

Though I want you to disregard that completely, and just make an honest assessment about which one you think will be the most fun to play in the long run.
Title: Re: Moment of Truth
Post by: Casiella on 16 Aug 2012, 11:43
Which one makes you enjoy logging in?
Title: Re: Moment of Truth
Post by: Tiberious Thessalonia on 16 Aug 2012, 11:48
Pretty much the same advice everyone is giving you here, dude.  I want you to enjoy playing the game and pick which ever one allows you to do that better.  This is one of those situations where you should absolutely not take in anyone elses opinion or wants before making your decision.  ;)
Title: Re: Moment of Truth
Post by: ArtOfLight on 16 Aug 2012, 11:48
I enjoy them both but for entirely different reasons. I enjoy Malcolm because he's really, really direct with people and people have already gotten accustomed to him just telling other people to piss off.

I enjoy Azdan because he seems like a diamond in the rough, really. He's an Amarr who actually tries to explain the religion and Imperial politics to people and is patient enough to deal with the crap that comes as a result from it. Though the direction he's moving will become more confrontational as things play out (lasers are good for something, after all).

Theoretically, I could play either one long term - though I think I might lean more toward Azdan simply because I like the Amarr as a faction more than the Caldari. Or rather, I like my perception of the Amarr more than my perception of the Caldari.

I suppose, at the core, what I'm looking for is validation (I know, it's terrible) on Azdan. Ever since things went south with Raze, I've been a bit uneasy about RPing an Amarr again because I'd really rather not piss off everyone I'm trying to play with.
Title: Re: Moment of Truth
Post by: Karmilla Strife on 16 Aug 2012, 11:52
While I see some similarities, likely because they are both from the same player. Azdan is definitely not Raze.
Title: Re: Moment of Truth
Post by: Jev North on 16 Aug 2012, 11:55
It's not horrible, it's one of our most basic needs. >.>
Title: Re: Moment of Truth
Post by: Casiella on 16 Aug 2012, 12:24
If you're looking for validation because you really want to play Azdan, then consider this that validation. From me, anyway. :)
Title: Re: Moment of Truth
Post by: Morwen Lagann on 16 Aug 2012, 12:35
I suspect a good number of PIE will find a few things they disagree with and despise therein.

The quoted sentence above literally screams warning signs of you falling into the same pit you did with Raze: caring way too much about what "established" groups think the party line is, and trying to avoid stepping on their toes. I love Mitara and Rodj and company (well, most of the 'company'; let's not split hares with a blunt axe), but I've given you this advice before, and feel it bears repeating despite its bluntness:

Fuck what PIE, or CVA, or the "old guard" think IC. Fuck it with a rusty railroad tie, and then deny it access to tetanus shots. Let Azdan do what suits him, and stop fussing over what a bunch of senile old bastards flapping their gums from their wheelchairs will say or think.

Will there possibly be consequences? Sure. It's EVE; there's usually some sort of consequence for our actions. But while their characters may get ruffled feathers IC, I suspect many of them are cheering as players that you're doing something to get Amarrian RP kickstarted and attractive to people again.

I've seen bits and pieces of some of the plans you've had, and I think they're great. But you shouldn't shy away from them and as a result, Azdan, just because they might cause some trouble within the faction. Amarr RP has given the (outward) impression of being on life support for a while now from what I've seen; an internal conflict that could purge undesirable elements that make the Empire look bad to everyone else would, imo, serve as a pretty big kick in the ass to get things rolling again.

As an aside: the advice above applies to pretty much any factional group out there. It might be EM/U'K if the context were Minmatar RP, or 4TH/I-RED/etc. for Caldari, so on and so forth.
Title: Re: Moment of Truth
Post by: ArtOfLight on 16 Aug 2012, 12:45
Heh, this is why I put stuff here. I can always count on my friends and associates to give me a solid kick in the teeth when I need one.

Thanks for the input guys. :)
Title: Re: Moment of Truth
Post by: Tiberious Thessalonia on 16 Aug 2012, 13:09
We luff you. <3
Title: Re: Moment of Truth
Post by: Katrina Oniseki on 16 Aug 2012, 13:38
If, say, someone were to help you out by providing a PLEX, would you then spend your money on a character transfer and solve the problem?
Title: Re: Moment of Truth
Post by: Z.Sinraali on 16 Aug 2012, 13:50
If, say, someone were to help you out by providing a PLEX, would you then spend your money on a character transfer and solve the problem?

10 points for House Caldari.

If you don't like the concept of taking other people's PLEX, and seriously can't decide, flip a coin. It's not like you can't re-activate the other one if you get bored with the first.
Title: Re: Moment of Truth
Post by: Morwen Lagann on 16 Aug 2012, 13:55
If, say, someone were to help you out by providing a PLEX, would you then spend your money on a character transfer and solve the problem?

10 points for House Caldari.

If you don't like the concept of taking other people's PLEX, and seriously can't decide, flip a coin. It's not like you can't re-activate the other one if you get bored with the first.

Both of these. I'd happily toss in to pay for part of it.
Title: Re: Moment of Truth
Post by: Makkal on 17 Aug 2012, 01:56
I suppose, at the core, what I'm looking for is validation (I know, it's terrible) on Azdan. Ever since things went south with Raze, I've been a bit uneasy about RPing an Amarr again because I'd really rather not piss off everyone I'm trying to play with.

I don't know your RP history as that was before my time, but I'll be honest and say from a completely self-centered POV, that I'd like you to continue with Azdan. I greatly appreciate the HolyAmarr-Aggro you've taken on.

Fuck what PIE, or CVA, or the "old guard" think IC. Fuck it with a rusty railroad tie, and then deny it access to tetanus shots. Let Azdan do what suits him, and stop fussing over what a bunch of senile old bastards flapping their gums from their wheelchairs will say or think.

Will there possibly be consequences? Sure. It's EVE; there's usually some sort of consequence for our actions. But while their characters may get ruffled feathers IC, I suspect many of them are cheering as players that you're doing something to get Amarrian RP kickstarted and attractive to people again.
That's beautiful.
Title: Re: Moment of Truth
Post by: Valdezi on 17 Aug 2012, 03:59
Malcolm forever!

EDIT: Or I'll give you plex for a Character Transfer and play two characters like I do.
Title: Re: Moment of Truth
Post by: Ken on 17 Aug 2012, 06:04
Play however and whoever you have fun playing.
Title: Re: Moment of Truth
Post by: ArtOfLight on 17 Aug 2012, 06:29
I paid to renew Azdan's subscription and will continue trucking along with him. Haters gonna hate, as my wife says.
Title: Re: Moment of Truth
Post by: Desiderya on 17 Aug 2012, 07:08
What everybody said. Play what you prefer to play, in the end you're paying for this game to have fun, not to appease other people.
Although I'd have paid for the character transfer if I would've been in your shoes, for various reasons. ;)
Title: Re: Moment of Truth
Post by: Ken on 17 Aug 2012, 07:54
(http://thechive.files.wordpress.com/2010/09/hatergif.gif?w=480&h=366)
Title: Re: Moment of Truth
Post by: Gottii on 17 Aug 2012, 09:33
I paid to renew Azdan's subscription and will continue trucking along with him. Haters gonna hate, as my wife says.

\o/

The only sorrow is that Azdan came along too late. 

With his awesome presidential hair, he could have certainly helped Kyber figure out how to be a stylish Amarrian with a perfect coif. 

Also, I think Amarrian is RP on hard mode, in that its big risk, big return, but likely could be a lot of fun.  Good luck with it.
Title: Re: Moment of Truth
Post by: Kybernetes Moros on 17 Aug 2012, 09:37
With his awesome presidential hair, he could have certainly helped Kyber figure out how to be a stylish Amarrian with a perfect coif. 

Alas, I mostly keep Kyber around on the same account as my current face to play him if the mood strikes me. Not consistently enough for any fashion revelations, at any rate. Sorry. :c

As far as the character goes, I think you made the better choice just to stick with the one you prefer at the moment. RP's meant to be for enjoyment (hence why I started a new face to toy around with some different character perspectives and archetypes).
Title: Re: Moment of Truth
Post by: Gottii on 17 Aug 2012, 09:39
With his awesome presidential hair, he could have certainly helped Kyber figure out how to be a stylish Amarrian with a perfect coif. 

Alas, I mostly keep Kyber around on the same account as my current face to play him if the mood strikes me. Not consistently enough for any fashion revelations, at any rate. Sorry. :c

As far as the character goes, I think you made the better choice just to stick with the one you prefer at the moment. RP's meant to be for enjoyment (hence why I started a new face to toy around with some different character perspectives and archetypes).

Youre such a tease. 

Who is it??
Title: Re: Moment of Truth
Post by: Jev North on 17 Aug 2012, 09:41
..o ho, I think I just figured it out.
Title: Re: Moment of Truth
Post by: Nicoletta Mithra on 17 Aug 2012, 12:37
Amarr needs Azdan. ;)