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Title: Its time to pwn cancer
Post by: Invelious on 12 Aug 2011, 09:20
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/world/new-experimental-cancer-therapy-wipes-out-leukemia-in-study/article2125709/print/


Amazing.
Title: Re: Its time to pwn cancer
Post by: Raze Valadeus on 12 Aug 2011, 09:28
This is certainly a ray of hope!

I cannot help but be thankful for people who spend their time, resources and energy dedicated toward achieving things like this.
Title: Re: Its time to pwn cancer
Post by: Mizhara on 12 Aug 2011, 10:12
There's other efforts towards healing illnesses or at least staving them off for a while.
Personally, I run Folding@Home permanently on the PS3 when I'm not watching movies, as an example.

Everyone can contribute to science, even if it's only by letting the scientists use your spare CPU cycles.
Title: Re: Its time to pwn cancer
Post by: Raze Valadeus on 12 Aug 2011, 10:26
There's other efforts towards healing illnesses or at least staving them off for a while.
Personally, I run Folding@Home permanently on the PS3 when I'm not watching movies, as an example.

Everyone can contribute to science, even if it's only by letting the scientists use your spare CPU cycles.

No doubt about that at all and I wasn't seeking to detract from other efforts, I was simply offering praise to the subject at the time. You may also wish to link that service you run so others can do the same if they choose to do so (if that's possible).
Title: Re: Its time to pwn cancer
Post by: Z.Sinraali on 12 Aug 2011, 11:21
This isn't the first apparently miraculous treatment for cancer, it won't be the last. Call me when it's been tested on more than 3 people.
Title: Re: Its time to pwn cancer
Post by: Esna Pitoojee on 12 Aug 2011, 11:42
Assuming it even reliably works... bets on what insanely exorbitant price they're going to lay on this drug?
Title: Re: Its time to pwn cancer
Post by: Lydia Tishal on 12 Aug 2011, 22:58
And maybe viruses too!

http://web.mit.edu/newsoffice/2011/antiviral-0810.html (http://web.mit.edu/newsoffice/2011/antiviral-0810.html)
Title: Re: Its time to pwn cancer
Post by: Lyn Farel on 13 Aug 2011, 04:29
If they finally did it with success after all this time past to try gene therapy solutions to the issue, this is awesome indeed. Still waiting to get other confirmations on bigger scale.
Title: Re: Its time to pwn cancer
Post by: orange on 13 Aug 2011, 07:54
Maybe we should heed a little modern science fiction (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Am_Legend_(film)) before jumping all the way in.
Title: Re: Its time to pwn cancer
Post by: Lyn Farel on 13 Aug 2011, 08:34
Hahaha I thought of it too, even if when I watched the movie I found that excuse to link the zombies setting to failed science experiments pretty lame (seriously, are they not bored with that kind of crap already ?). It ridiculizes the plot instead of giving any depth.

The movie is still good, but the book is 100 times better : the author dared to do what the filmaker did not dare to do by convenience for the audience. 
Title: Re: Its time to pwn cancer
Post by: orange on 13 Aug 2011, 11:28
Well like any technology or scientific breakthrough there are both foreseen and unforeseen consequences.  Nuclear theory for example - nuclear power and nuclear weapons.
Title: Re: Its time to pwn cancer
Post by: Lyn Farel on 13 Aug 2011, 13:09
Yeah but I can't help but find the excuse dumb and totally out of place. But this is probably because I read the book before (which is 100 times deeper and sader, but I understand why they did not realized it as it is for cinema).

And maybe also because I am just bored of that trope where scientists are mad people without any ethics doing experiments that eventually end bad and threaten the whole humanity, if not the galaxy.
Title: Re: Its time to pwn cancer
Post by: Kazzzi on 13 Aug 2011, 13:27
If a new treatment has less of a profit margin than an old treatment, you won't see it in an American hospital until they find a way to artificially inflate the price.
Title: Re: Its time to pwn cancer
Post by: orange on 14 Aug 2011, 22:25
http://xkcd.com/938/
Title: Re: Its time to pwn cancer
Post by: BloodBird on 15 Aug 2011, 02:31
I don't know where I read it or heard it, but there WAS a possible way to cure cancer out a few years ago, apparently it was not put into sirculation due to 'unproffitable reasons'. Some people's money-making is indeed more important than other people's lives. This time will be no different. I'll give a fuck when it's in actual use across hospitals all over the world and people get cured en-masse.

On the flip-side, the over-population issue is not getting helped any by this, but I won't cry about another horrible disease being removed, if it is.
Title: Re: Its time to pwn cancer
Post by: Lyn Farel on 15 Aug 2011, 05:24
http://xkcd.com/938/

Even if I think (hope ?) scientists are actual scientists, I loled  :lol:
Title: Re: Its time to pwn cancer
Post by: Graelyn on 31 Aug 2011, 14:27
Cancer will not be 'cured'.

Cancer will become finally, completely, 'treatable'.

Name the last disease we cured. It pretty hard.
We do not do that anymore.

Too many billions a year are made off of cancer. If I cured it tomorrow, I would be dead by Thursday.
Title: Re: Its time to pwn cancer
Post by: Invelious on 31 Aug 2011, 14:51
Cancer will not be 'cured'.

Cancer will become finally, completely, 'treatable'.

Name the last disease we cured. It pretty hard.
We do not do that anymore.

Too many billions a year are made off of cancer. If I cured it tomorrow, I would be dead by Thursday.

No, its going to get cured, and never come back.........right?
Title: Re: Its time to pwn cancer
Post by: Kyoko Sakoda on 31 Aug 2011, 16:59
http://xkcd.com/938/

Even if I think (hope ?) scientists are actual scientists, I loled  :lol:

This.
Title: Re: Its time to pwn cancer
Post by: Borza on 19 Sep 2011, 10:19
Cancer will not be 'cured'.

Cancer will become finally, completely, 'treatable'.

Name the last disease we cured. It pretty hard.
We do not do that anymore.

Too many billions a year are made off of cancer. If I cured it tomorrow, I would be dead by Thursday.

Pharma companies do indeed research treatments rather than cures, but big-profile diseases get a lot of charitable and government funded research for cures. Particularly from governments who have publicly-funded healthcare ;)

That said I don't expect cancer to ever be eliminated until/unless we genetically modify ourselves to remove all error from our mechanisms of cellular division. Errors which evolved to be there in order to facilitate the evolutionary process.
Title: Re: Its time to pwn cancer
Post by: Louella Dougans on 19 Sep 2011, 11:43
Name the last disease we cured. It pretty hard.

is it Smallpox ?
Title: Re: Its time to pwn cancer
Post by: Bacchanalian on 19 Sep 2011, 12:55
Too many billions a year are made off of cancer. If I cured it tomorrow, I would be dead by Thursday.

lol
Title: Re: Its time to pwn cancer
Post by: Esna Pitoojee on 19 Sep 2011, 17:06
Name the last disease we cured. It pretty hard.

is it Smallpox ?

Rinderpest (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rinderpest)
Title: Re: Its time to pwn cancer
Post by: Matariki Rain on 19 Sep 2011, 19:05
There's another that may well be gone 'soon', though: Dracunculiasis or guinea worm disease - http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dracunculiasis.

I do like the idea of solid, thoughtful work getting rid of miserable and decidedly un-sexy diseases.

(Also, by the way, nice choice of projects by one of the US's retired presidents: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carter_Center, subheading "Health programs".)