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Title: Non-standard Cybernetics
Post by: Victoria Valadeus on 04 Jul 2011, 18:59
So in an effort to roleplay out my chosen ancestry (which I took because I misunderstood the description) I thought I'd have Victoria undergo some cybernetic enhancements. Having recently finished reading Neuromancer, I thought I'd turn Victoria into a razorgirl in imitation of Molly Millions to help cement her role as the close-quarters combatant to Raze's crack shot. So, here's what I was thinking of doing:

Quote from: Molly Millions - Wikipedia
Her sensory input, metabolism and reflexes are also artificially heightened by means of electronic implants and exotic forms of advanced surgeries and other medical procedures. Molly also sports razor-sharp retractable claws underneath her fingernails: ten double-edged blades four centimeters in length.

I'm forgoing Molly's inset lens implants, but other than that, pretty much as above.

So, what I'm asking of all of you fine folks is to help me out a bit:

1. I'm trying to go for a speed over strength style of close-quarters combat. What implants would help with that?

2. I haven't the foggiest idea how to RP the surgeries and post-op personal training and conditioning. Any suggestions?
Title: Re: Non-standard Cybernetics
Post by: Seriphyn on 04 Jul 2011, 19:28
From "All Tomorrow's Bodies (http://www.eveonline.com/background/potw/default.asp?cid=29-09-08)"...

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"You know that Skids has a quickdraw implant," he said.

Stuff exists. I imagine just make it up.
Title: Re: Non-standard Cybernetics
Post by: Z.Sinraali on 04 Jul 2011, 19:28
To infringe Catalyst Game Labs copyright a bit, here are a few items you might consider:


You might also consider nanite colonies or genehacks in addition to or as a substitute for some hard mechanical or biological implants. Post-implantation process will probably involve as much tweaking of the hardware specs as anything else.

(i'm in viva's thread theftin ur ideas kyber)
Title: Re: Non-standard Cybernetics
Post by: Victoria Valadeus on 04 Jul 2011, 20:00
From "All Tomorrow's Bodies (http://www.eveonline.com/background/potw/default.asp?cid=29-09-08)"...

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"You know that Skids has a quickdraw implant," he said.

Stuff exists. I imagine just make it up.

brb, reading
Title: Re: Non-standard Cybernetics
Post by: Desiderya on 05 Jul 2011, 06:01
Some things have been quoted by Z.Sinraali already. I'd encourage trying to get hold of the Augmentation sourcebook for Shadowrun. In case you don't know someone who owns one you could always sneak into a local shop and browse through it to get some inspiration.
Anyway, there's much fun to be had with sense enhancements, too,  like increases of the visual spectrum (IR for example), vision enhancements, integrated recording devices, echolocation.
Title: Re: Non-standard Cybernetics
Post by: Victoria Stecker on 05 Jul 2011, 08:08
One thing to consider is why you would do this. While the technology for it probably exists, Victoria is a capsuleer. You can afford the best personal security money can buy. You already fly some of the most destructive weapons known to man. As a capsuleer, you're probably too valuable for anyone to want to use you as a front-line soldier. Unless you plan to get into deadly hand-to-hand combat on a regular basis, it seems a little excessive.

Note that it is a heinous acto of hypocrisy for me to say that, but Stecker's a slightly different case. Aaaanyways...

It's a big cluster, the technology exists, have fun. Just make sure you can come up with a justification for it when someone asks what the point is. IC, that is. OOC, "because it's shiny" is a good enough answer for anything.
Title: Re: Non-standard Cybernetics
Post by: Desiderya on 05 Jul 2011, 12:25
I agree to some extent. You certainly shouldn't overdo it.
In the end it's the same question: Why carry a gun, knife, you name it.
There are three things to consider: Capsuleers are
a) Insanely wealthy,
b) "optimized for/attuned to" and already equipped with a variety of cybernetics
c) probably a little insane.
The reason why you'd do such a thing may vary. Ancestry and/or pre-capsuleer background, paranoia, trying to be the meanest dog in the cluster, megalomania...

And there are lots of cosmetic, social or useful non-combat augmentations imaginable as well.
Title: Re: Non-standard Cybernetics
Post by: Kybernetes Moros on 05 Jul 2011, 13:55
I agree in that there'd need to be a decent reason for a capsuleer, of all people, to get combat-oriented  stuff installed (at least, from an IC standpoint). Most of my past consideration of cybernetics has either been in the context of dem Sansherz or non-combative roles, though, which don't seem so relevant here. One possibility would be replacing entire organs with stronger / more efficient / whatever cybernetic replacements, though: the artificial hearts of today taken up to eleven, say.

Ze'ev, being the rogue and rapscallion he is, stole most of my shinier ideas as though they were a cloud of innocent cytoserocin, however. :| 

The surgeries themselves, I'd largely handwave, if only because I've no real idea how they'd be handled, particularly for any more extensive procedures. The post-op stuff, you could probably lift from comparable RL operations or common sense; as a random example, something altering the legs would lead to not being able to walk properly for x period of time. vOv
Title: Re: Non-standard Cybernetics
Post by: IzzyChan on 16 Jul 2011, 16:53
If you need ideas I'd recommend reading the manga called "Battle Angel Alita."
Title: Re: Non-standard Cybernetics
Post by: Gottii on 16 Jul 2011, 18:59
I wrote a blog story trying to touch on what it might feel like to have military cybernetics within you.  And yes i ripped off many of the same sources as Z. 

check it out if you would like:  http://gottiieve.blogspot.com/
Title: Re: Non-standard Cybernetics
Post by: BloodBird on 17 Jul 2011, 09:39
If you need ideas I'd recommend reading the manga called "Battle Angel Alita."

Aaaah, Izzy... you don't spread the info about one's treasure-trove with so little  care...

Oooops... (http://view.thespectrum.net/series/battle-angel-alita-volume-1.html?ch=Volume+1&page=1)

Wait, I can fix this... Oh dear... (http://view.thespectrum.net/series/battle-angel-alita-last-order-volume-01.html?ch=Volume+01&page=1)

Anyhow. With the sillyness out of the way, if you read it and like it, go BUY IT. I'd go buy it - again - if I had a source that would get me my books in hard-copy format.

Also, for the love of all holy things, read the first 9 books THEN the Last Order follow-up.
Title: Re: Non-standard Cybernetics
Post by: Nmaro Makari on 20 Jul 2011, 06:32
To the semi-naysayers in the audience, I think you should probably bear in mind some recent developments.

Wether we like it or not, Incarna is the way things are going.

We WILL be turfed out of our pods as a matter of routine.

Seeing people face to face in the dark corners of planets and stations IS NOW IMPORTANT.

For these reasons, the argument of "you dont need it" is completely nullified.

Bear in mind that many capsuleers already frequent the "bars" of New Eden, such as the Last Gate or the Skyhook, and they act IC as if they were there in person.
Title: Re: Non-standard Cybernetics
Post by: Kybernetes Moros on 20 Jul 2011, 06:44
FTR, my sometimes-objection to the issue of capsuleers getting heavily augmented for (or even trained in) personal combat is that they're a class of ultra-wealthy nutcases: I'd have thought it much more sensible for them to invest an infinitesimal portion of their fortune in personal security than it would be to spend however long learning how to punch people.
Title: Re: Non-standard Cybernetics
Post by: Nmaro Makari on 20 Jul 2011, 07:09
FTR, my sometimes-objection to the issue of capsuleers getting heavily augmented for (or even trained in) personal combat is that they're a class of ultra-wealthy nutcases: I'd have thought it much more sensible for them to invest an infinitesimal portion of their fortune in personal security than it would be to spend however long learning how to punch people.

Again, the realities of PF and gameplay means this is not really meaning much. Though you do have a point. Although I would say this new shady-sneaky-darkdealy-covert-stabby ethos that CCP seems to be going for would mean that private security when you want to handle something personally but covertly would just be making a target of yourself.
Title: Re: Non-standard Cybernetics
Post by: Victoria Valadeus on 21 Jul 2011, 13:50
This seemed to be the most obvious way to RP being a Cyberknight. I'm afraid I haven't really seen a lot of extra Cyberknight resources to give me some clue as to what to do.

I picked those particular implants because I thought they were cool, and I like the idea of being armed and dangerous without appearing to be so.

I have an additional RP motivation in that Victoria has seen a capsuleer friend beaten and maimed and doesn't want to see that happen again to her or people she cares about.