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Title: Empyrean Burners
Post by: Shanty Anzomi on 18 Sep 2014, 09:21
So, im still kicking XD, i was reading this dev blog, http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/some-npcs-just-want-to-watch-the-world-burn/ (http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/some-npcs-just-want-to-watch-the-world-burn/)
And was about the Burner Missions and how the burners destroy a lot of capsuleer ships (some battleship too) and all that.
But the interesting thing is...
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The new wave of Burners are former special ops teams trained by the four Empires. They’ve decided to go freelance and have quickly emerged as a major threat to peace and order in the cluster.

Unlike the first Burners who exclusively work alone, these new additions work in teams of three: a squad leader flying a heavily tanked Assault Frigate and two support pilots flying logistics frigates. Each individual ship in this squad are much less dangerous than the first Burners, but together they represent a significant challenge for any Capsuleer.
So, this mean that the empires have enough power to bring down capsuleers or something like that, i guess
Title: Re: Empyrean Burners
Post by: Morwen Lagann on 18 Sep 2014, 09:29
Of course they do - their navies are ridiculously large compared to the forces we can muster even if every player capsuleer joined forces - and that's before the actual loyalist capsuleers get involved.

This marketing vomit about the empires "losing their grip" is a crock of BS. They're not losing their grip - loosening, perhaps would be the better word. Doesn't mean they can't rein us back in or thin the herds if they really wanted to.
Title: Re: Empyrean Burners
Post by: Jace on 18 Sep 2014, 09:58
This marketing vomit about the empires "losing their grip" is a crock of BS. They're not losing their grip - loosening, perhaps would be the better word. Doesn't mean they can't rein us back in or thin the herds if they really wanted to.

This a couple thousand times. The empires could lay waste to all capsuleers if they wanted to. The rambling about us being gods that the empires have to fear is nothing more than null egos gone awry.
Title: Re: Empyrean Burners
Post by: Lyn Farel on 18 Sep 2014, 12:28
It's always a bit weird for balance purposes to see suddenly all special ops teams in every one of the four empires defecting together at the same time. xD
Title: Re: Empyrean Burners
Post by: Morwen Lagann on 18 Sep 2014, 12:32
"Those guys in charge."
"Fuck those guys."
"Yeah, fuck those guys."
"Seriously, man. Fuck those guys."
"Word. Let's fuck up some podders!"
"Awwww yissss. Right there with you brah!"

Thinking something like this, Lyn?
Title: Re: Empyrean Burners
Post by: Lyn Farel on 18 Sep 2014, 12:54
Well I could really well see that for one empire, but all at the same time ? Are they telepathic or something ?
Title: Re: Empyrean Burners
Post by: Jace on 18 Sep 2014, 12:55
"I really don't feel like filling out the new tax forms."
"Yeah, me either."
"I wonder if those guys have to over there."
"I dunno, let's go ask them. Hey, you guys have to fill out new forms?"
"Yeah, this is bullshit. We heard the Republic guys are just not going to do it."
"That's such a good idea."
"For real."
"We'll not do it if you guys don't do it."
"Deal. Someone tell the Amarr guys how brilliant we are."
Title: Re: Empyrean Burners
Post by: Morwen Lagann on 18 Sep 2014, 12:56
Well I could really well see that for one empire, but all at the same time ? Are they telepathic or something ?

Like the Space Zombie Empress, ofc.
Title: Re: Empyrean Burners
Post by: Lyn Farel on 18 Sep 2014, 13:58
Those spaces zombie empresses. I always forget about them.
Title: Re: Empyrean Burners
Post by: Silas Vitalia on 18 Sep 2014, 14:36
Of course they do - their navies are ridiculously large compared to the forces we can muster even if every player capsuleer joined forces - and that's before the actual loyalist capsuleers get involved.

This marketing vomit about the empires "losing their grip" is a crock of BS. They're not losing their grip - loosening, perhaps would be the better word. Doesn't mean they can't rein us back in or thin the herds if they really wanted to.


Nu-Uh Morwen! Drekar alliance is teh sex, they singlehandedly killed all da Amarr pew pew ships.

Trailer told me so.  Empires are noobs.
Title: Re: Empyrean Burners
Post by: Esna Pitoojee on 18 Sep 2014, 17:33
TBH, took this to be more a case of,

"Hey, CONCORD. We've been handling our own rogues for a long time, but you know what? Turns out capsuleers will throw themselves at silly challenges if we jingle a bag of coins in their face. Can we contract this stuff out to them too?"
"Sure, why not. If everyone else agrees."
"Hey that sounds like a good idea!"
"Yeah, I want in on it too!"
"HEATHENSHEATHENSHEATHENS yeah we'll do it too"
"Okay, paperwork's right here for you all..."
Title: Re: Empyrean Burners
Post by: Karmilla Strife on 18 Sep 2014, 20:50
Wait, a garbage feature gets some token bullshit explanation?

 :o
Title: Re: Empyrean Burners
Post by: Shanty Anzomi on 20 Sep 2014, 06:34
Another one, if the empires have more power than capsuleer... that about capsuleer beign the only hope against the Sansha is a bad joke, right?
Title: Re: Empyrean Burners
Post by: Lyn Farel on 20 Sep 2014, 07:15
But that's because they hack everything that is not capsule piloted. xD
Title: Re: Empyrean Burners
Post by: Mizhara on 20 Sep 2014, 07:45
Wait, a garbage feature gets some token bullshit explanation?

 :o

Welcome to MMOs.
Title: Re: Empyrean Burners
Post by: Vizage on 23 Sep 2014, 09:39
Another one, if the empires have more power than capsuleer... that about capsuleer beign the only hope against the Sansha is a bad joke, right?

No,  not really.

See Capsuleer's represent in many ways the penultimate in militarized space farmers.  Able to fly faster/better, with less crew, and almost zero chance of death.

This means that we are a nigh inexhaustible highly trained highly proficient killing tool that can be pitched at Sansha as long someone writes us a paycheque for it.

However....

The Empires hold the keys to our Kingdom. We exist because the Empires need us to exist. Sansha being one of those reason, our ability to explore, research, even fight their battles all represent a need we fill.

However the second capsuleer would represent a serious threat to the Empires, as Concord signatories they have access over clone stocks and all other manners that make us the powerful beings we are.

That mixed with Navies that make the combined null-sec armies look like a marching band in comparison means they could hit us harder and faster than any amount of infrastructure could recover from.

So in summation, no its not a joke because we are useful. But a capsuleer revolt would be something akin to the special forces picking a fight with the remaining combined arms of a nation.