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EVE-Online RP Discussion and Resources => EVE OOC Summit => Topic started by: Ghost Hunter on 15 Feb 2013, 13:49
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Relevant kick starter : Minmatar Tribal Leaders have a field trip to Matar (http://community.eveonline.com/news/newsFromEve.asp?of=true&newsTitle=minmatar-tribal-council-to-begin-february-14th-tribal-reps-to-make-historic-convoy-to-matar)
For this thread, please focus on the storyline material as your center point. If you must cite events, try to keep it limited to their relevancy to the story. In general, posters should expect to talk about the Minmatar ongoing story arc and not the results of players for one particular event.
"Oh yeah they said something about a Tribal cultural bit here," is fine.
"Nah some people just bump griefed the freighter the whole time," can go in another thread.
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does someone have a log of what Shakor said in his speech ?
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does someone have a log of what Shakor said in his speech ?
Here - http://pastebin.com/3bhLmx05
Im to lazy to delete the rest of the spam between the lines
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Well, a Minmatar meeting place is known as a "caravansarai", which were sanctuaries, watering holes, and meeting-places for wandering merchants and nomadic tribes across the middle and near east, and along the Silk Road.
Interesting.
So, perhaps, that hints to a society which is still more or less nomadic by nature.
Very interesting.
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It's interesting that the delegate for the Nefantar seems to be religious while his new chief seems to be a hard-line tribalist.
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Well it seems that Shakor had a role in the selection of the chief. So it makes sense that a tribalist would be selected. I don't know where you saw that they were a hard-liner. I only saw that he had facilitated transport of tribalists out of the Mandate. That could mean he was just a sympathizer in a position of power.
I wonder if the capsuleer representatives were selected by the tribes themselves. If so that could suggest that a significant number of the nefantar in the Republic, (or at least of their leadership), are members of, or tolerant of, the Amarr faith. Or alternatively it could just represent a struggle for identity within the tribe.
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It's interesting that the delegate for the Nefantar seems to be religious while his new chief seems to be a hard-line tribalist.
Probably a political appointment. Much like with Presidents choosing opposing VPs, the delegate was chosen to appeal to the other half of the constituency.
That is, of course, assuming that kind of thing is important in Minmatar governing.
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It's interesting that the delegate for the Nefantar seems to be religious while his new chief seems to be a hard-line tribalist.
I do not find it so surprising to see hardliners getting along with religious types.
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One thing to remember is that each of the ships were carrying delegations, not delegates. There was more than just the capsuleer piloting it aboard going to the council meeting.
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Question: what is the likely outcome here. The Minmatar get a new government and then what?
Example: When the US invaded Afghanistan and kicked out the Taliban, the Afghans formed a new government (took a looooong time) and didn't really work well with the Coalition troops that were trying to continue to fight the insurgent Taliban.
Is it possible that the Minmatar and the Gallente will go their separate ways?
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Adding new and relevant News articles: http://community.eveonline.com/news/newsFromEve.asp?of=true&newsTitle=wave-of-enthusiasm-sweeps-minmatar-space
Wave of enthusiasm sweeps Minmatar space
reported by CCP Eterne | 2013-02-20T14:04:48Z
Pator – Following the historic commencement of the Tribal Council, enthusiasm and excitement is at an all time high inside the Republic. Opinion polls have found that people are more optimistic about the future of the Republic than at any other time in its history, including the previous high shortly after the naming of Maleatu Shakor as Sanmatar in YC110.
“We are marching toward a unified future,” said Tobias Efrit, a former parliamentarian for the Krusual Tribe who has been placed in charge of overseeing the tribe's trade assembly. “The tribes shall always remain distinct, but now we are moving towards unity under a Tribal Council that shall enable us to govern efficiently without conflict and political backbiting.”
Kyrak Stollyk, secretary of the Trust Partners Council of Caravans, agreed with those sentiments. “There were four tribes working together before with three tribes returning to the fold. There have been difficult hurdles to overcome even in getting to this point, but we overcame them. The Minmatar people have overcome so much, it is impossible to believe we won't overcome these last few disagreements to make ourselves the greatest nation in New Eden.”
“Already there is much progress across the Republic,” said Olaufin Jastl, a religious advisor to Starkmanir chief Jeoran Setul. “Tolerance and acceptance between the tribes is greater than ever. We can now begin the task of rebuilding what generations of infighting has destroyed. Schools, hospitals, churches... We must bring these to even the most impoverished of areas, not just the core worlds.”
“We must not forget that many of our brothers and sisters remain enslaved,” reminded Domash Kroil, a member of the Nefantar tribal delegation. “Once the Tribal Council has closed and our new government is underway, we can finally begin a concerted effort to free them from the chains we so recently cast off.”
Sebiestor spiritual leader Vuld Haupt added that he has seen a religious invigoration among his tribe. “In the past few days, I have heard more young people talking about becoming shamans and adopting our great customs than ever before. It is a wondrous time to be Minmatar.”
An elder leader of the Brutor Tribe, Raelan Kahoku, was also impressed by the cultural leaps the Minmatar have been taking. “I know the Brutor do not have the reputation as artists, but I have seen many great things in the past few days from my tribesmen. Photography, song, dance, even a few sculptures. There is an outpouring of pride in being Minmatar.”
But perhaps best summing up sentiments was Yuce Velkhamme, a member of the Vherokior Tribe's mercantile board. “I am proud to be Minmatar.”
God dammit, I was hoping for fist fights in the parliment :D
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That one's a few days old, though the enthusiasm has seemingly been reverberating throughout the capsuleer community as well. TLF has been winning in the Amarr-Minmatar front ever since the Minmoot. <.<
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EVE has conditioned me to look at all the different things the different reps want to foster, and wince. ;)
But yes, having movement on this plotline is fantastic. I can hope that there'll be a bit of a chance to work things out in more peaceful ways for a while (before the nigh-inevitable riots about those Starkmanir building their churches in our Sebi neighbourhood).
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In other news, Shakor was seen riding off into the sunset on the back of a unicorn...
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It seems like CCP has stopped inventing new random names for popvox commentary. All of the names in that article, including Chief Setul, have appeared in previous news arcs.
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http://community.eveonline.com/news/newsFromEve.asp?of=true&newsTitle=republic-fleet-announces-live-fire-operations-within-minmatar-borders
Republic Fleet announces live fire operations within Minmatar borders
reported by CCP Eterne | 2013-02-28T11:05:02Z
Pator – The Republic Fleet today announced that it has begun taking part in a number of operations within Minmatar borders in an effort to shore up security throughout its space. As a result, the Fleet will begin deploying ground troops in select areas it has deemed “areas of high concern” and has warned citizens that interference in the operations will be considered acts of terrorism.
Heder Elislar, a spokesperson for the Republic Fleet, explained, “One of the first acts of the Tribal Council was to determine that Republic security is currently lacking, especially on our border worlds. As such, the Fleet has deployed ground troops to a number of areas we believe are harboring cells of terrorists, criminals, and other threats to the Minmatar people.”
When asked about the nature of these threats, Elislar explained, “They come from many sectors. The Angel Cartel, for one.” He went on to say, “There are also concerns about possible Amarr insurgents attacking colonies,” in apparent reference to the Bragian Order assault on a Starkmanir colony on Vard VII the other week.
Apparently, the additional security will not be sufficient to alter the sec status of any systems. “The majority of these operations are taking place planetside,” Elislar said. “While the Republic Fleet would prefer to provide maximum protection to all systems, space superiority is not feasible with our current manpower. However, we are able to strategically redeploy ground troops away from high security systems with confidence thanks to our ability to interdict any hostile forces before they can deploy planetside.”
Surveillance probes have already captured several apparent engagements being fought by the deployed troops. Some rumors have begun to spread claiming the fighting is taking place at are supposedly top-secret Republic military facilities, but the Republic Fleet has dismissed these rumors as “patent nonsense”.
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Looks like no empire can keep control of its Dust Bunnies.
After most of their capsuleers wandering off you think they (the empires) would think twice before creating yet another set of immortals ...
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Chronicle: Cover Stories (http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Cover_Stories_%28Chronicle%29)
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"What it also contained was political intelligence vital to sensitive negotiations ongoing in the tribal assembly. The Sebiestor tribe needed this information. Karin Midular needed this information to shore up her hand in the discussions. She also needed no-one else to know about it."
Noh was right. There really is a Sebiestor plot!
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Of course there's a Sebi plot. Something would be very wrong if there wasn't. The interesting thing about this is that the Starkmanir are apparently plotting at a similar level.
We've been getting a bit slack: there's more competition now and we'll have to sharpen up. :)
(Nice to have a bunch of new PF snippets to glean. Was there something previously saying that the capital of Matar was called Capital City rather than Matar City, or am I having phantom memories?)
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Nice! Plots everywhere! Conspiracies! Tadaaa! I like it :D
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I was reading the latest Minmatar news post, http://community.eveonline.com/news.asp?a=single&nid=5058&tid=3 (http://community.eveonline.com/news.asp?a=single&nid=5058&tid=3), and I was hoping for some feedback. Of the Big 4, I know the least about the Gallente Fed and their laws and such. In the article it mentions [spoiler]" "The Court has to be deadlocked. Half the Justices likely want to maintain the principles of racial homogeneity that the founders successfully imposed on the peoples of Gallentia and Caldari Prime. The rest are no doubt tempted to rewrite Federation Minmatar identity so that it resembles the Jin-Mei caste system."[/spoiler] What would that mean legally, especially for Minmatar born in the Federation?