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Title: CW: Caldari Prime
Post by: Aria Jenneth on 09 Aug 2015, 08:17
Second verse, same as the ... no, actually, this should come out quite different.
Title: Re: CW: Caldari Prime
Post by: Utari Onzo on 10 Aug 2015, 05:46
I think I'm in the boat with Lyn on the other thread here in that Utari will be a walk on part limited to the Caldari areas of CP. he'll definately have some recommendations of places to see after bumping into Aria in the area though. I'll edit this post with content later tonight.
Title: Re: CW: Caldari Prime
Post by: Ché Biko on 10 Aug 2015, 07:43
I'll be more of a tag along in this one, although I could be of some use concerning Arcurio.
Also, did I mention Ché is a licensed atmospheric pilot?
Title: Re: CW: Caldari Prime
Post by: Utari Onzo on 10 Aug 2015, 09:01
Guess that means I'll be tour guide for Ut's section then Ché :P
Title: Re: CW: Caldari Prime
Post by: Kador Ouryon on 10 Aug 2015, 17:17
Having been planetside on Caldari Prime I can tell you for a certainty that it really looks like every other planet in New Edene except with a flaming titan in the back ground. 

Hope that helps. (http://jestertrek.com/eve/blog/2013/caldari-prime-2.jpg)

Title: Re: CW: Caldari Prime
Post by: Ché Biko on 11 Aug 2015, 14:57
I guess we're it, Onzo.
Do we need to do some planning or can we go for it?
Title: Re: CW: Caldari Prime
Post by: Utari Onzo on 11 Aug 2015, 15:04
I think maybe a bit of planning wouldn't be bad as well as flesh out a little how the locations would look. I assume aria would want to see both the federal sections and the caldari, maybe have a fly over the titan wreck suggested too?

Would have dumped lore links/descriptions tonight and last night but I keep getting roped/volunteer for fc militia fleets :s

One thing I do need to point out is IC I'm in the naughty bin so I can't directly invite aria to come along due to a ban on privately socialising with pyre members (i broke a rule about going to neg ten owned venues) however bumping into each other in a public place followed by "have you seen xyz?" Should be fine
Title: Re: CW: Caldari Prime
Post by: Ché Biko on 11 Aug 2015, 16:09
Sounds good, and the flyover could also include the Kaalakiota Peaks in general (although flight would probably restricted over the tribal areas). Maybe we could visit one of the ancient subterranean structures.
I'm thinking, in addition to Arcurio for a Gallente District, we could do Tovil for the Caldari one, unless Onzo has another in mind.
Nouvelle Rouvenor could be an option.

Where are we likely to bump into Onzo?
Title: Re: CW: Caldari Prime
Post by: Utari Onzo on 11 Aug 2015, 16:51
Hmm good question, likely towards the end of the Arcurio visit if you wanted to have Biko take Aria there first (its where I envision Utari's father died during a riot)

Tovil soons good by me
Title: Re: CW: Caldari Prime
Post by: Ché Biko on 12 Aug 2015, 13:16
Ok.

I'll be working mostly from the evelopedia and EVE Source.

I like the idea to start off with a decent from orbit to Arcurio, describing the city and the surrounding area as it starts to come into view. I'll see if I can write up something for you to comment on. Feel free to do the same, and maybe we can hybrid those together.
Title: Re: CW: Caldari Prime
Post by: Ché Biko on 12 Aug 2015, 16:28
So, here's something...
_
Ché flicked a few switches at the command of the shuttle pilot to his left, who was piloting this spaceplane down to Caldari Prime, which was growing increasingly larger in the forward viewscreen. It was less white than one might expect. Ché had explained a number of factors played a part in this: some vegetation had adapted to grow in snow and on ice, the effect industries and cities and human activities on the surrounding landscape, and in recent years, the planet was close to the periapsis of its fifteen standard year orbit while Luminaire's star is at the high output portion of it's solar cycle.
The scar of the planet, the Shiigeru crash site, was clearly visible now. Ché glanced to his left, at Aria, who was sitting between him and the pilot, and he noticed she was looking at it. Ché looked at it for a moment as well before raising his arm to point at it and some other recognizable features.

"Ok so...Shiigeru crash site...that's the southern edge of the Kaalakiota mountain range. The equator runs approximately like this...and that big body of water near it is the landlocked sea Arcurii. North of that is lake Saaika, aaand between the two, roughly at the same latitude as the southern edge of the Kaalakiota Peaks, that grey spot that's a different grey than the other grey spots...the one the ship is sorta pointing to, that is Arcurio."

Ché smiled and glanced at Aria for a moment. He was not certain if he was telling her anything she already knew, but he felt like breaking the silence, so he did not care that much.

"Arm retros." the pilot said.

Ché flicked 2 more switches and replied "Check."
Title: Re: CW: Caldari Prime
Post by: Simon Louvaki on 12 Aug 2015, 18:26
It took me a hot minute to figure out what CW meant, and now I'm a bit disapointed I missed out! I'm kinda supprised to not see some of the other Caldari Lore people out here.
Title: Re: CW: Caldari Prime
Post by: Ché Biko on 13 Aug 2015, 06:27
You missed nothing, Simon. We have not fully started yet. You're more than welcome to pitch in.
I was as surprised as you were, but then again, this was sort of marketed as a tour of the Federation.
Title: Re: CW: Caldari Prime
Post by: Utari Onzo on 13 Aug 2015, 07:05
Sounds good Ché, if you feel confident we can get this puppy on the road. Other peeps should drop in as/when they like
Title: Re: CW: Caldari Prime
Post by: Simon Louvaki on 13 Aug 2015, 16:16
Most excellent! I haven't had a good world building session since my TES days!

I had established back before Highlander that Simon owns/is a controllong share oener in baseliner Bio-Fules production Company on Caldari Prime (Operating as a Hyasyoda Subsidiary) so if were talking about physical encounters between players Simon has a good reason to be around and perhapse have a run in with present party, especially if you plan on visiting Tovil.

Are there any ground rules I need to know before I attempt a contribution? Set paths or story for the tour? Anything that I need to know?
Title: Re: CW: Caldari Prime
Post by: Utari Onzo on 14 Aug 2015, 00:25
Generally ts considered good form to let each person take their turn as 'tour guide' and show the elements they want to show. If you're conspiring to meddle with the tour, then obviously the gloves are off on that one (people are welcome to make things go awry with npcs and pcs)

Other then that as forum rp this is going to be slower and a lot more descriptive. Feel free to dump ideas on the elements you're looking to show here.
Title: Re: CW: Caldari Prime
Post by: Simon Louvaki on 14 Aug 2015, 14:35
Right, got it. Im fairly experienced with Forum RP.
Title: Re: CW: Caldari Prime
Post by: Ché Biko on 26 Aug 2015, 19:31
I've started the IC Caldari Prime CW here (http://backstage.eve-inspiracy.com/index.php?topic=6835.0).
Where do you want to meet, Simon?
Title: Re: CW: Caldari Prime
Post by: Simon Louvaki on 30 Aug 2015, 12:16
Apologies for the tardy reply! I had originally planned on meeting in Tovil, but on second thought I could probably meet up with you guys in Archurio then travel with you guys to Tovil if that would be alright.
Title: Re: CW: Caldari Prime
Post by: Ché Biko on 31 Aug 2015, 07:15
That's alright. As far as I'm concerned you can enter the story at your discretion. I don't have a particular tour set in stone, so don't wait for me to finish my "turn as tour guide".
Title: Re: CW: Caldari Prime
Post by: Utari Onzo on 08 Sep 2015, 07:58
I'll jump on in likely soonish, maybe within the terminal.
Title: Re: CW: Caldari Prime
Post by: Pieter Tuulinen on 09 Sep 2015, 15:44
No word of a lie, watching world building being done on Caldari Prime by a Gallente and an Achuran is KILLING ME. I wish I'd spotted this earlier so I could get involved.
Title: Re: CW: Caldari Prime
Post by: Simon Louvaki on 09 Sep 2015, 16:05
Im sure no one would object if you jumped in Pieter!
Title: Re: CW: Caldari Prime
Post by: Pieter Tuulinen on 09 Sep 2015, 16:22
Im sure no one would object if you jumped in Pieter!

I kinda feel like this is Aria's show.
Title: Re: CW: Caldari Prime
Post by: Simon Louvaki on 09 Sep 2015, 17:03
Im sure no one would object if you jumped in Pieter!

Sure; I wasnt trying to give permission, just encourage you to seek it out :x
I kinda feel like this is Aria's show.
Title: Re: CW: Caldari Prime
Post by: Ché Biko on 12 Sep 2015, 15:52
I thought it was all our show... :) But yeah, she has the veto.
Anyway, I'd say there's place for one more, Pieter, so ask Aria if he's ok with that.
Title: Re: CW: Caldari Prime
Post by: Pieter Tuulinen on 14 Sep 2015, 08:35
I thought it was all our show... :) But yeah, she has the veto.
Anyway, I'd say there's place for one more, Pieter, so ask Aria if he's ok with that.

I will!
Title: Re: CW: Caldari Prime
Post by: Pieter Tuulinen on 14 Sep 2015, 11:36
Aria has welcomed me to this project. With that in mind, does anyone have any good ideas for getting involved? There are any number of places that I could bump into her, especially since Pieter has business on Cal Prime at the moment.
Title: Re: CW: Caldari Prime
Post by: Aria Jenneth on 14 Sep 2015, 14:12
Okay-- generally, I'm staying clear of the planning threads, but wanted to make a couple things clear.

1. This is YOUR worldbuilding project. I am not monitoring the planning, and I will generally exercise veto only if something really bizarre gets done. IE, someone posts, "And then the star explodes and everybody is transformed into an exotic plasma. CCP, please remove Luminaire system from game.  :lol:," I reserve the right to say, "Um, no." I'm just the catalyst here.

2. People are not confined to describing scenes in which their character is present, though coordination is a good thing. That's what the planning thread is for.

3. Coincidental meetings are possible but not ideal. Aria already "bumped into" Luna on the Dam Torsad tour; further "chance encounters" strain credulity a lot. However, Aria also will not be making any effort to avoid people or deny them a chance to come along. She likes exploring solo, but equally likes having people around who know more or less what's going on and can explain it. Regardless, a "Hey, I've got some business on Caldari Prime in the next few days; want to meet up?" is likely to receive a "Sure!"

There's also one person she's actively planning to "meet by chance," but that's another issue entirely.
Title: Re: CW: Caldari Prime
Post by: Lunarisse Aspenstar on 15 Sep 2015, 07:09

3. Coincidental meetings are possible but not ideal. Aria already "bumped into" Luna on the Dam Torsad tour; further "chance encounters" strain credulity a lot.


*impish grin* Re-read the Dam Torsad thread.  Who said that there was anything 'chance' about it on Luna's part? :P

keep up the world building. I love these projects.

Title: Re: CW: Caldari Prime
Post by: Ché Biko on 16 Sep 2015, 16:37
So, Pieter, how do you want to become involved?
Pieter has business on Cal Prime at the moment.
Also, note: it takes place in the future, when the project is finished.

Onzo, I'm okay with you taking the lead for a bit. Consider Ché to be strolling along if I don't reply regularly.
Title: Re: CW: Caldari Prime
Post by: Utari Onzo on 28 Oct 2015, 01:21
Fair warning. I am coming up to the end of the bits I wanted to show.

The parts and places I've already presented were intended to show to Aria that the Gallente influence is subtle. Unlike an Amarr Reclaimation, I can well imagine the Federation woul seek rather to introduce their laws and freedoms, and let the people progress into the culture naturally, if at all.

To counter the positive tone, it has been told through the eyes of an Amarrian who was brought up with many of the same prejudices as the Caldari.
Title: Re: CW: Caldari Prime
Post by: Pieter Tuulinen on 28 Oct 2015, 16:14
I don't imagine the Gallente influence would have been at all subtle - I see it very much as a Berlin-esque situation, with very indentifiable cultural enclaves where the populations used to be forced to live in enforced segregation and, now that the walls have come down, there is only a slight blurring around the edges - along with the scars of the various conflicts still being visible.

The only cultural homogeneity would be in new construction in the urban centers - mostly cultural resource centers, economic centers and - most especially - administration centers for the new governments.

I'm kinda baffled how you could possibly have the idea that it would be a slow and peaceful intermeshing of cultures - given the cultural distinctiveness in the first place, the traditions of opression, the invasions, the segregations and the general antipathy that seem to be the bedrock of the situation. Perhaps I'm a little more at home to such concepts, given my childhood, growing up in British enclaves in Germany, Holland and Belgium, given Northern Ireland, given my time in Berlin.

Even before the invasions, the Gallente generally used their technology to settle in places that the Caldari had been unable to build cities. After the invasions, they bussed in colonial populations and enforced Caldari and Gallente districts even in the shared cities. Heth didn't create ghettos when he invaded, he simply enforced the existing ones - albeit with a heavier hand than the Gallente probably did and with the guards on the other side of the gates.
Title: Re: CW: Caldari Prime
Post by: Utari Onzo on 28 Oct 2015, 18:28
You're probably right that I as a person don't know those experiances off the first hand, and there is a lot of that history I didn't cover. That said, on reflection I still don't think I was wrong to focus on the subtle parts of Gallente influence. Those are the areas that naturally would be more of my character's concerns as a rival culture, as unlike obvious segregation tactics, these ones are more difficult to combat.

The other reason I took the path I did is that, by my reckoning atleast, the situation would have started to normalise in terms of every day life. It's gotten to the point where the Gallente are even building a joint space port with the State, as referenced on a Scope video ticker. While in the past segregation and enforcement might have been a means for either side to coerce the population their way, with the current demilitarisation and peaceful overtures, I can't see heavy handed approaches continuing.

Naturally, everyone who wants to participate is free to apply their own stamp and show other effects of the Gallente influence on Caldari Prime. I've played out the parts I wanted and focused on the present. I'll leave it to the Caldari and the Gallente characters to present the past.
Title: Re: CW: Caldari Prime
Post by: Aria Jenneth on 16 Nov 2015, 17:58
Folks, if nothing further happens with this by Friday, I'm calling it-- which means it happens. I'll keep the precise timing vague to avoid alibi syndrome ("You can't possibly have been planetside at that time-- you were in fleet with us!").

I'll assume various other, less-important visits and encounters did in fact occur.
Title: Re: CW: Caldari Prime
Post by: Pieter Tuulinen on 17 Nov 2015, 13:50
You're probably right that I as a person don't know those experiances off the first hand, and there is a lot of that history I didn't cover. That said, on reflection I still don't think I was wrong to focus on the subtle parts of Gallente influence. Those are the areas that naturally would be more of my character's concerns as a rival culture, as unlike obvious segregation tactics, these ones are more difficult to combat.

The other reason I took the path I did is that, by my reckoning atleast, the situation would have started to normalise in terms of every day life. It's gotten to the point where the Gallente are even building a joint space port with the State, as referenced on a Scope video ticker. While in the past segregation and enforcement might have been a means for either side to coerce the population their way, with the current demilitarisation and peaceful overtures, I can't see heavy handed approaches continuing.

Naturally, everyone who wants to participate is free to apply their own stamp and show other effects of the Gallente influence on Caldari Prime. I've played out the parts I wanted and focused on the present. I'll leave it to the Caldari and the Gallente characters to present the past.

You're talking about events post the power-sharing deal? Yes - that's a big departure from the past, which is one of the reasons why Pieter is so positive and happy about the process that's happening on Caldari Prime right now.

Sadly, no Caldari characters seem to have participated in the world-building exercise - which is fine, because it remains completely the opinion of the characters involved and thusly completely subjective and that's perfectly good and I'm not criticising it for a second.
Title: Re: CW: Caldari Prime
Post by: Aria Jenneth on 24 Nov 2015, 22:09
Right! Calling it. Event occurred some time in the last/next couple days.