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General Discussion => General Non-RP EVE Discussion => Topic started by: Katrina Oniseki on 02 Oct 2011, 17:20
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I'm sure at least some of us have a reason to keep playing besides hoping for CCP to 'get it right' (read: bittervets). I'd like to know what interesting reasons you all have for continuing your EVE subscription. Other than addiction, other than hope for new things to do.
Maybe some of you don't have long term goals, maybe some of you only log in for the next good fight, or log in to see what rabble is going on in the Summit. For me, I have my long term goal:
I want one of every ship in the game. Fitted, and ready to fly. I want to be skilled enough to fly any of them effectively.
I completed my T1 warship collection for all four races... now I'm working up through Caldari T2... cruisers next. When I finish, I might either do Gallente T2 or Caldari Capitals... Carrier and Dread.
I don't really want supercaps, and I'm not jonesin' for the alliance tourny rewards or any of the other super rare ships. I just want to be able to say, "Yup. I can fly anything."
Keep in mind I want to meet the certs for every ship... not just the 'ignition key' skills. This is obviously a years long waiting game for the skills, unless CCP decides to sell SP for AUR.
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Aside from RP goals, which are less well-defined, and which I won't share OOC anyway, some of the more practical in-game goals:
Buy and outfit an Ashimmu
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Get enough LP to buy and outfit Apoc Navy Issue
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Own a billion isk liquid
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Corner a market
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Get 1 million Faction Warfare LP
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Get 100 solo kills without a carrying a point in my Crusader
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Get 1000 kills with my Crusader
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Get kills in my Crusader under gate-gun fire
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Get kills in one of my dozens 'idiot-fit' ships
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Kill a standard dual-prop Dramiel with my Crusader
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Put up and maintain a POS
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Run T2 production lines
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Establish artificial price level for one particular product in Domain
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Become sole supplier of laser crystals for Domain
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Try PI
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Try wormhole operations
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Participate in Alliance Tournament
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Try nullsec sov warfare
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I once had a similar goals, to own and fly all ships, but at some point having/flying another ship doesn't give the same kick as it did before. I have the skills to fly most ships fairly well (bar a few t3 and capitals), but I find the ships become just a few more pixels in you hangar unless you have very particular need to fly them.
Incidentally, I like Empire wars (and FW) because it gives me better opportunities to switch a ship into exactly that what I need for the particular situation. For example, I don't think I've ever flown a Megathron, even though I have good skills for it. Haven't seen a situation yet where I could use it.
As you can see, a lot of 'practical' goals have either been fullfilled or lost their meaning, which leads to more focus on enjoying the actual playing instead of running after some carrot, which in turn can lead to 'bittervet' syndrome.
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Right now I have two basic goals I'm working towards:
#1 is have a billion isk in my wallet
#2 is to own, fitted and with the relevent certificates hanging on my CQ wall, all of the Scorpion variants available (what happened to the Ishukone Scorpion? Or am I a bad man for wanting one?)
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Hmmmm, good question!
1) Get 50+ racers to show in a single race.
2) Build a media empire that actually makes a profit
3) Grow an entourage of friends and characters that I enjoy role-playing with.
Yeah, that's about it.
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My goal is obviously to uncover each and every piece of Prime Fiction contained within the game.
Also, I would like to use my Panther more for different operations.
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Fly all gallente ships at least once (supercaps will be harder to obtain)
Connect Solitude to the rest of high-sec gallente territory
Become a director in a succesful Federation aligned RP corp.
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Build up the corp numbers and learn how to actually manage people :D
Keep learning how to fly all the many different kinds of frigates I use properly.
Make enough money to support my pvp and have enough extra to risk some more expensive ships.
Light the cyno for a hotdrop (preferably Ava's carrier :p ).
Have a 1v1 against another daredevil.
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I can arrange that for your daredevil Kala. I have one ready to fight in Arzad. Though atm I have no RP reason to do so, even if I saw you at the beginning of your days in FW plexing in Saidusairos. You have the benefit of the doubt on this for now. :p
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Recently I still had no more goals than RPing with people and having good RP (which is harder to find these days....). More or less what Merdaneth said for me. I can also fly almost everything (except supercaps, and im not far from supercarriers, i just need the fighters V skill).
Then I left KotMC and now I want to try one of the last things I have never tried in Eve : T2 invention and production. I was very eager to start as I already have surprisingly a lot of science skills for that (coming from datacores and stuff), but now I am more mitigated. I just understood I need a POS for copying, and that means a constant profit to make to cover the costs, and my goal was only to sell T2 stuff to RP friendlies with ideals that Lyn supports. But I am hardly finding good prospects for that... :(
I also want to buy and try a vindicator in incursions, thats my new whim, and it will be complete very soon.
Other than that, I just keep playing for the RP, and it has been like that for years now.
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I've pretty much attained most of my goals what I want to do personally. Now I more so go with the flow what my corpies wanna try out and see if we can make that it viable. Only real personal goal I have left is to fly a Nyx, warp it from celestial to celestial and shout 'Punch it, Chewie' in local every time I initiate warp. If it wasn't for my corpies I would've dropped EVE already for the most part I think.
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Hurr. Three goals I use as my motivation to play at the moment:
Achieve +10.0 to True Power, True Creations, and Sansha's Nation (faction).
[True Power, check. True Creations, check. Sansha's Nation @ 9.36]
Build up the True Slave Foundations.
[Oh man fix these corp interfaces already]
Serve Sansha Kuvakei.
[Well I certainly learned an Archon can't do much to armor rep a Wyvern going down. lololol]
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I'm looking for new long term goals, as my previous goals were pretty much tied up quite nicely before my sudden departure a couple months ago. When I start playing again (probably in March) I'll have some nice plans ready to go.
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Build up Advent Ltd. member base while still keeping a Quality>Quantity mindset.
This includes both from an out-of-character member count as well as getting enough numbers to successfully have fun and stable roleplay within a wormhole system and on a control tower.
Be able to fit and fly several Loki variants for exploration, wormhole escalation sites, and PvP.
And due to the "magic" of wormholes that means getting a different Loki for each different purpose!
Kill all my investors.
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Kill all my investors.
:eek:
Edit: LOL, that icon above this line looks like that cat below this line.
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Occasionally you have those fights where after significant planning, flawless formation, and excellent order-following, you go in and completely control the situation, start to rip through the enemy fleet... oh, what's that? A cyno? And there's a capital fleet coming through? Crap.
I want to be the guy leading the fleet coming through that cyno. And I want to be doing it IC, against IC enemies. Once I've done that, I think my EVE experience will be complete.
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Figure out a sustainable industrial corporate structure that is fairly easy to replicate, allows for characters of all skill levels to input into the process, rewards individual effort in a noticeable way, and keeps management to high-level guidance, strategic planning, and organization of mutual support.
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Figure out a sustainable industrial corporate structure that is fairly easy to replicate, allows for characters of all skill levels to input into the process, rewards individual effort in a noticeable way, and keeps management to high-level guidance, strategic planning, and organization of mutual support.
Let CCP know when you figure it out, they'd probably love to implement it even if they'll never dedicate the manpower to doing it if it doesn't involve sparkly vampires.
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Good thread! On one hand I feel like my response borders on spoilerish, but on the other hand I shouldn't be that conceited and nothing is set in stone anyway. Here we go:
• Finish up Frigate specialized training. I'm nearly there (http://eveboard.com/pilot/Crucifire); EAF 5 and AF 5 will be done mid-December, before Cruci hits 1 year old.
• Get better at solo PVP even when the odds are stacked staggeringly high against me
• Form an obscure terrrorist cell/death cult. This is something I've been slowly working away on for the past few months while I've been in an OOC alliance. I believe I have the core tenets out of the way. Need to work out the details and how I plan to execute it. Also members will be nice, I need to figure that out too.
• Interdictors 5, fly Amarrian HAC/HIC/T3 well enough.
• Make a (hopefully not awful) solo PVP video
• Have Crucifire come full-circle and return to her Tribal roots, come to terms with the Republic, and join/form a Matari centralized organization. She has already established herself as an enemy of the Republic (and Federation) to other capsuleers who know her, has committed countless atrocities and will continue doing so for quite some time, and has a -8.05 Minmatar faction standing. This will likely be the hardest thing I ever do in EVE and I felt it to be a very fitting late game goal.
• Finish up Cruiser specialized training. This means each race's T2 Cruisers, along with HAC/HIC/Recon/Logi/T3 (and maybe Battlecruiser) skills all trained to 5.
NO MISSILES NO BATTLESHIPS
NO GODS NO VEGETABLES
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• Form an obscure terrrorist cell/death cult.
You probably have your own death-cult plans in mind, but I've been doing a little work with an Odinic capsuleer cult. We're the dead warriors gathered to Valhalla against the day the giants/Amarrians come again. It has potential, but it's not... a place I really want to spend too much time.
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• Form an obscure terrrorist cell/death cult.
You probably have your own death-cult plans in mind, but I've been doing a little work with an Odinic capsuleer cult. We're the dead warriors gathered to Valhalla against the day the giants/Amarrians come again. It has potential, but it's not... a place I really want to spend too much time.
Interesting! I do have my own thing in mind, one that's much less theological and is just plain batshit crazy, but any organization dedicated to the extermination of at least 99% of New Eden's human population would be a welcome ally in the initial endeavor (such as EOM, though a conflict would surely arise when they have nowhere to turn but each others' throats)
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(and maybe Battlecruiser) skills all trained to 5.
If you plan to fly them in PVP, GET. BC. 5.
I'd put it ahead of the rest in priority.
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(and maybe Battlecruiser) skills all trained to 5.
If you plan to fly them in PVP, GET. BC. 5.
I'd put it ahead of the rest in priority.
Why? Every ship I train is already for PVP. If I liked flying battlecruisers I'd be flying them by now. I'm not new to this; I've been PVPing since (almost) day one, and this is not my first character.
So.... no.
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Why? Every ship I train is already for PVP. If I liked flying battlecruisers I'd be flying them by now. I'm not new to this; I've been PVPing since (almost) day one, and this is not my first character.
So.... no.
That's why there was an "if" to start it. If you don't like to fly BCs in pvp, then it doesn't matter. If you do, it's more than worth it. Sounds like you don't.
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FWIW, in my opinion after 5 years of EVE PvP (also waving my epeen, I'm ~550 on battleclinic last I checked, so I'm not talking out of my ass about PvPing), BCs are the best bang for the buck of any ship type in EVE.
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Bacchtroll is trollish? :P
I <3 bc's, but you hate them for anything of a mobile nature, I thought. :p
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Ah, sorry if I sounded snappish, Victoria. I presumed you meant if I had intended to fly any ships in PVP that it should be a BC @ 5, which is something I've been told before and it really drives me up the wall. Bang for buck is not really concern of mine either, I'd rather fly what I want and have fun doing so.
I have Battlecruiser 5 tacked on the very end of my 905 day skill plan (which I will change for nobody but me), and I mainly have it on there because I'm not sure where else to take my skills other than min-maxing every little skill I have at that point (and I did train BC 3 a while back before deciding again that I have no passion for 'em). And I'll probably still be flying mainly frigates at that time anyway.
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I have Battlecruiser 5 tacked on the very end of my 905 day skill plan (which I will change for nobody but me), and I mainly have it on there because I'm not sure where else to take my skills other than min-maxing every little skill I have at that point (and I did train BC 3 a while back before deciding again that I have no passion for 'em). And I'll probably still be flying mainly frigates at that time anyway.
This. I've got BC 4, and never fly them. On the other hand, I have all the racial frigates to 5 and all the t2 frigates to 4. I train for what I fly :)
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Unmodified +10.0 to the Angel Cartel and the member corps. At the rate I'm slacking, and with how hot Curse gets at times. I'm still a ways off >_< Doesn't help when russians camp your local storyline agent 23/7, ugh. Once that is done though, I may do the same for Serpentis. Just because I'm masochist like that :eek:
There's also some ships I'd like to fly at some point, bigger subcap stuff like command ships and black ops. Eventually I also want to be trained in all four races, something which I'll make a good move towards in the next year.
I'm a skill collector, so having all skills at some point is a goals too. Titan books are going to be a pain :lol:
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Become a Speaker of Truths.
It may take decades. I'm ok with that.
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Kill all my investors.
That makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside... uggh poison. :-Sad Face-:
(what happened to the Ishukone Scorpion? Or am I a bad man for wanting one?)
ISHUKOOONE!!!! .. but yes one of these makes you a bad man err.. bad ass.
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Conquer all of gall and min space and watch the epic video CCP has for FW for the Allied side that wins.