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EVE-Online RP Discussion and Resources => EVE OOC Summit => Topic started by: Synthia on 25 Oct 2014, 05:54
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https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=381390&find=unread
Event actor Hilen Tukoss returns, after ~3 years, posts on IGS, is now requesting Jovian body parts (from that event way, way back) for research purposes.
Curious.
These body parts will push him close to a breakthrough, the likes of which has not been seen since capsules&clones became a thing.
I See.
A number of things spring to mind:
The phrasing of the post - there are a few anomalies, which raise the possibility that this is not in fact Hilen Tukoss at all, that it is someone, or something else.
The purpose of the body parts - the ones that spring to mind, are requiring a Jovian body to unlock something in a device somewhere (in the style of Leeloo in the 5th Element for example), a Jovian body for someone to jump into (as some kind of disguise), a Jovian body for something to jump into (meat puppets of the Machine).
Oh dear.
I don't remember the exact details, but as I recall, the Other is some kind of creature that lives in the Sleeper virtual worlds, and wants to enter real space. In addition to this, something about the Sleeper virtual populations requiring real bodies in order to live/stay sane/population control/something else. This sort of thing was in Templar One, as I recall.
As was the whole thing about DUST implants requiring Sleeper body parts to create - resulting in capsuleers massacring the cryogenically frozen real populations of the Sleepers, with a consequential massacre of their virtual populations.
So these Jovian bodies could be used as some kind of thing to evacuate the Sleeper population, away from w-space, back into the real world, possibly in order to combat the Jovian Disease, and restore Jovian society, kicking out whatever Sansha's Nation elements might be present.
Good heavens.
Or, creation of a Jovian body, in order that The Other, can escape sleeperspace, enter realspace into the body, and begin it's war on the cluster.
Red God have Mercy !
So what are your thoughts on this ?
I think it might be a lore introduction to some of the things mentioned at the EVE Vegas thing - those weird permadeath characters they discussed as a potential idea, or a lore introduction to some other things that have not yet been hinted at.
Thoughts ?
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Thoughts? More twaddle that doesn't advance the storylines of New Eden for shit. I don't need nor care for more speshul snowflake spess majikz mumbo jumbo. Give me more politics, inter-faction strain/advancement and some god damned conflicts. Contrary to what they seem to think the last few years, this isn't in fact a rip-roaring spess adventja for spess Indiana Joss Whedon and his wacky crew of spess archaeologists. It's a sandbox in a setting that hasn't actually advanced for years now and this is just more distracting horseshit that will do nothing for the game or the setting.
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I don't really have an opinion on it. I wasn't involved before and I won't be this time.
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So. Notice the description for Zainou-- founder was the first person to transcribe himself to a machine. Odds are that's what happened here. The exact circumstances are probably some sort of attack-or-other, or gettin' too frisky with Sleeper tech, or...
My guess is that Hilen Tukoss wants Jove-y bits so that he can make himself a new clone body...? Or something.
I doubt the Other is going to factor at all.
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Hilen Tukoss - "do it yourself" version. :lol:
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Good to see some things happening on IGS. I'm guessing the good doctor is not under his own control anymore.
I hope some of you push the event forward and others of you try and push it backwards :)
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maybe this is just CCP going to do a tying of loose ends, so that people stop bringing up A'J at fanfest.
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They still haven't said whats happened to the rest of the Jovians, though I wouldn't be surprised if all but a select few ended up dead at this point.
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I still have some of those parts - might have to dig them up.
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it'd wrap up that whole thing as well - remove enough of the jovian body parts, people stop asking questions about what use they are.
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That teleporting Jovian event was like what 11 years ago? Are there many still around who have those parts?
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That teleporting Jovian event was like what 11 years ago? Are there many still around who have those parts?
A few collectors come to mind who've been aggregating them over the years. Plenty of them show up on contracts, given enough time. The Fullerene Shards are the most distinct and recognizable part - the others are quite generic in bulk warehouse sales.
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There's one big difference here from round one of A'J that is making me a little shifty about the whole thing.
First round of A'J was very freeform - Tukoss showed up, made a channel, and said "hey, let's do some science". There was no obvious end-goal: while Dropbear OOC told us we were getting close to some story-critical discoveries, he also said we'd jumped off in some entirely unexpected directions. Yes, we had to sort through mountains of derp and failed attempts to get to the interesting bits, but there were some truly interesting discoveries about game mechanics, lore, and other things.
And, that's science, really: You just keep on trying until you run out of cake, and the science gets done, you make a neat gun report for Site 1, etc etc.
In contrast, right now this seems to be a fairly dirt-basic "retrieve item quest": Insert body parts, get science. There's no research to be done - frankly, we can't do to much in the way of actual research on a generic item in the game - and the options for participation are extremely limited.
And that saddens me, because what got a lot of people into A'J was the freeform inventiveness of it. We had piles of people who were otherwise not interested in "roleplay" hopping on board because they were asked to just do experiments or research (often in space).
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The thing which has me bitter about the whole thing is that this is basically what their last event was.
EVE literally has Themepark Style gathering quests, just writ large.
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The thing which has me bitter about the whole thing is that this is basically what their last event was.
EVE literally has Themepark Style gathering quests, just writ large.
I think the corpspeak term is 'dynamic content generation.'
Right? Right? :/
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Good to see some things happening on IGS. I'm guessing the good doctor is not under his own control anymore.
I hope some of you push the event forward and others of you try and push it backwards :)
I think I could try to play very very bad girl for this event, although not sure how yet :roll:
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Good to see some things happening on IGS. I'm guessing the good doctor is not under his own control anymore.
I hope some of you push the event forward and others of you try and push it backwards :)
I think I could try to play very very bad girl for this event, although not sure how yet :roll:
could point out that the Hilen Tukoss character is located in Todaki, which means the State authorities must have podded and grabbed him. For the Staaaate!
also your sig http://i.imgur.com/5uvL3Qo.gif lol
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the players continue to squabble amongst themselves, without any sign of progress, so maybe it's for the best if CCP does actually tie up this loose end.
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@Lithium Flower, as I recall Dr. Tukoss defected from the State into the Republic, in the process getting capsuleers to fire on Caldari pilots. Seems you have all the motive you need right there. I suggest waiting for him to try moving to Site One and then blockading it, demanding the handover of an enemy of the State.
I've got your dynamic content, right here.
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@Lithium Flower, as I recall Dr. Tukoss defected from the State into the Republic, in the process getting capsuleers to fire on Caldari pilots. Seems you have all the motive you need right there. I suggest waiting for him to try moving to Site One and then blockading it, demanding the handover of an enemy of the State.
I've got your dynamic content, right here.
Yeah, I was scout on the EM fleet that lead him out of the State.
Tukoss didnt actually ask us to fire at the Caldari state Raven. We just told the ship if he fired we would respond. He fired, we shot back.
#iwasthere #itwasreal
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He inspires such confidence, doesn't he? (https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=383424&find=unread)
Also, that freighter event was seriously derp. Gottii doing his best to scout ahead, Altaen doing the FCing trying to keep a bit of control through the whole thing and Tukoss just yoloing the freighter along disregarding both scouting and FCing completely. We seriously should just have blown the fucking thing out of the skies.
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Yeah I think its pretty safe to say at this point that he was probably eaten by a rogue drone.
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Yeah I think its pretty safe to say at this point that he was probably eaten by a rouge drone.
FTFY
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He'd be prettier if that was the case.
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And now it seems it's all fallen into :drama: . I can't say I'm surprised, but it is a rather enjoyable trainwreck to watch. It's even possible we might get actual content out of this if people break out the autocannons as well as the dramacannons.
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And now it seems it's all fallen into :drama: . I can't say I'm surprised, but it is a rather enjoyable trainwreck to watch. It's even possible we might get actual content out of this if people break out the autocannons as well as the dramacannons.
I actually considered parking in Eram and shooting people going to deliver.
And then learned that it's high sec Minmatar. Oh well.
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And now it seems it's all fallen into :drama: . I can't say I'm surprised, but it is a rather enjoyable trainwreck to watch. It's even possible we might get actual content out of this if people break out the autocannons as well as the dramacannons.
I actually considered parking in Eram and shooting people going to deliver.
And then learned that it's high sec Minmatar. Oh well.
You just gotta sit in sight one tossing duel requests to everyone while going "fite me m8, m8, m8" in local.
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I was actually referring to the fact that I am Amarr militia and so can't really sit anywhere in Republic high sec. :P
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I have my theories after today's o7 showing.
Jovian body parts provide breakthrough that removes skill loss on podding and clone levels.
Uncharted wormhole system 31000005 is Thera.
blah blah, sleepers, blah blah, :nanites:
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I have my theories after today's o7 showing.
Jovian body parts provide breakthrough that removes skill loss on podding and clone levels.
Uncharted wormhole system 31000005 is Thera.
blah blah, sleepers, blah blah, :nanites:
I second your theorymongering, but one thing still doesn't jibe for me. Tukoss referenced the colonization of said system. We certainly haven't put colonies there. So who has?
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Thera
Wait. "Atlantis"? Ahaha.
Really, CCP? I am going to laugh, well more than I am, if we find out the system 'sank' into W-space. (Which would be a way to explain why it's the way it is.)
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Thera is to be populated by NPC stations, we just don't know who. Considering the arrival of the pirate faction data and relic sites in wh space, I wouldn't be surprised if Thera had a station for each of the the pirate factions.
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Thera is to be populated by NPC stations, we just don't know who. Considering the arrival of the pirate faction data and relic sites in wh space, I wouldn't be surprised if Thera had a station for each of the the pirate factions.
I think it'd more likely be one faction. I can't particularly see the Sansha the Angels, the Blood Raiders, and the Guristas all founding a system and singing kumbaya.
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For what it's worth, the Chaos dump currently says they're SOE stations.
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TIL people will continue to whine even after they mostly get what they want.
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For what it's worth, the Chaos dump currently says they're SOE stations.
Would love to see it be some version of the Thukkers or a sub-factional corporate interest, but yeah I think it'll be SOE or SOE +/- allies of SOE.
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http://pastebin.com/w125E5jX
Acquired from a ghost topic on the IGS
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Or, creation of a Jovian body, in order that The Other, can escape sleeperspace, enter realspace into the body, and begin it's war on the cluster.
It sure is neat, being vindicated. :S
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The Other doesn't seem like a Falcon thing. It's more of a TonyG thing. vOv
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Needs more enhuehuehueduanni.
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Rhavas on Intersteller Privateer has written an interesting article (http://interstellarprivateer.wordpress.com/2014/11/10/enemy-of-my-enemy/) on this whole thing.
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The latest devblog says it's SoE.
I honestly don't see how Thera isn't going to get mega camped by a major W-Space alliance. They're taking all these provisions to counter that and all I'm reading is 'put more people there'. The system may not have much way in profitability at a glance but I am curious at the number of connections.
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The latest devblog says it's SoE.
I honestly don't see how Thera isn't going to get mega camped by a major W-Space alliance. They're taking all these provisions to counter that and all I'm reading is 'put more people there'. The system may not have much way in profitability at a glance but I am curious at the number of connections.
I don't, strangely. It might get camped eventually, but I don't think it'll be a w-space alliance that takes control. I just don't see what profit it would be for them, I mean sure they get a lot of WHs to raid (and keep an eye on) but you can't keep capitals there so you effectively can't capital escalate sites without a secondary HQ in a real WH system and if you need that, why bother trying to defend a system where you can't bubble scanned exits or the stations that there.
I think the effort to try and control Thera might undo a lot of corp/alliances that want to do it. We might find the situation where rather than a whole system, we'll have four corp/alliances staking their claim on the stations that are inside.
I'm interesting to see what comes of Thera, it is certainly a feature CCP are adding that has me genuinely curious about how it plays out and making me decide if I want to be apart of it.
~Deadie
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The latest devblog says it's SoE.
I honestly don't see how Thera isn't going to get mega camped by a major W-Space alliance. They're taking all these provisions to counter that and all I'm reading is 'put more people there'. The system may not have much way in profitability at a glance but I am curious at the number of connections.
I don't, strangely. It might get camped eventually, but I don't think it'll be a w-space alliance that takes control. I just don't see what profit it would be for them, I mean sure they get a lot of WHs to raid (and keep an eye on) but you can't keep capitals there so you effectively can't capital escalate sites without a secondary HQ in a real WH system and if you need that, why bother trying to defend a system where you can't bubble scanned exits or the stations that there.
I think the effort to try and control Thera might undo a lot of corp/alliances that want to do it. We might find the situation where rather than a whole system, we'll have four corp/alliances staking their claim on the stations that are inside.
I'm interesting to see what comes of Thera, it is certainly a feature CCP are adding that has me genuinely curious about how it plays out and making me decide if I want to be apart of it.
~Deadie
Two of the stations are 500km from each other, ~240au from the other two. The other two are 140au apart. Controlling the first two might be doable, the others as well? Not so much.
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Does seems a little weird people two so close, but otherwise yeah. So a group might keep two reasonably under their thumb and rivals can just go to the other side of the system.
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From the looks of it, they're almost designing it to be a warzone...
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pirates%27_republic
Or it's Space Nassau. ;)
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Haven't finished reading the thread yet... but does anyone else see a rather hefty reference given that system's name...
Thera... it's not even a difficult anagram...
a bit like torchwood in that respect :P
i wonder if we're about to see what happened to earth.
let's see..., the first two planets in the system are shattered... wonder what the third one's like. :P
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There are fourteen planets in Thera. The first nine are shattered.
Try again.
Thera is the name of an island (also known as Santorini) in the Mediterranean that was part of the Minoan civilization. It was mostly destroyed by a very large volcanic explosion, and is one of several places in the region that is a hypothetical location of Atlantis.
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hmmm... maybe i misread... :P
seems the fluff at the top was incorrect then... :psyccp:
[spoiler] Rough transition through wormhole conduit to seventh candidate location. Shields and nanoplating held with minimal erosion. Deployed camera drones and was immediately impressed by the vivid blue glare of the central star. Even brighter than typical blue A0 types. Analysis showed it to be subtype A0IV and qualifying as a blue subgiant. Extremely turbulent with many signs of instability in star and the background radiation of the system. Briefly turned forward plating transparent with polarizing filters in place, and was struck by the dire beauty of the star.
Sensors indicate several outer planets of various types and an inner zone of numerous terrestrials. The innermost pair of planets show signs of shattering similar to that seen in previous candidate locations. This system stands out as extremely capacious and probes are returning multiple wormhole signatures. Could it be lucky seven?
~ Zakari Kovalis, Exploration Vessel Katydid, Log Entry YC112.07.09
[/spoiler]
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That only means the scout has checked those two planets. :P
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I'd go with the Thera is not Earth theory; actually I would be very worried if we ever find Old Earth. OOCly speaking, we spent a bunch of years back in stone age on this side of the EVE Gate. Something like 10,000, give or take a few thousand.
If we ever meet them, we may find out they spent this time alive, awake and working.
Q
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I have no idea what any of this is about because wormholes and such things don't interest me, but I'm happy to see things happening. Hope it all goes well for folks.
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Looks like the "new" A'J is following in the path of the "old" A'J.
I seem to remember quite a lot of drama llama in the beginning of the project too; popularity and pissing contest and so forth. But when the time came to do actual "effort" most of these people dropped out. I hope CCP keeps the activities open for all to participate and not fall back to exclusive events for those so called w-space dwelling corporations, as those are anyhow too busy ISK-whoring to care about lore and story.
Even though I have been off the EVE hook for more than a year, I do feel a bit compelled to subscribe for a month to check out if there really is some new lore content to explore and theorize about.
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So, there's quotes in the various dev blogs, from a character called "Zakari Kovalis"
looking them up ingame, they have a bunch of hexadecimal in their bio. Great.
Translating it to text, turns out it's Chinese. Well, that's helpful.
Google translate, does not create anything useful. vOv
Turns out, that some people at reddit have already deciphered it. Maybe.
http://www.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/2n21ux/when_a_white_horse_is_not_a_horse_or/
Okay. vOv
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also, Sisi reveals that all stargates in jove space no longer exist
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pirates%27_republic
Or it's Space Nassau. ;)
Black Sails (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFTcA4QLHw0), anyone?
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I check my messages at work and there's 70 on the a'J mailing list
What in fucks name happened?
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I check my messages at work and there's 70 on the a'J mailing list
What in fucks name happened?
You logged off.
More seriously: Stellar Anomaly Detected By Capsuleers; Scientists Baffled By Superluminal Effects (http://community.eveonline.com/news/news-channels/world-news/stellar-anomaly-detected-by-capsuleers/)
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I check my messages at work and there's 70 on the a'J mailing list
What in fucks name happened?
I logged in for the first time in a year just as this happened. You can imagine my surprise, between 70 on the Arek'Jalaan list and another 300 from SYNE.
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I check my messages at work and there's 70 on the a'J mailing list
What in fucks name happened?
I logged in for the first time in a year just as this happened. You can imagine my surprise, between 70 on the Arek'Jalaan list and another 300 from SYNE.
Swear down, that's just an insane backlog, promise! And only 40-50% are from me so... Innocent?
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I check my messages at work and there's 70 on the a'J mailing list
What in fucks name happened?
I logged in for the first time in a year just as this happened. You can imagine my surprise, between 70 on the Arek'Jalaan list and another 300 from SYNE.
Swear down, that's just an insane backlog, promise! And only 40-50% are from me so... Innocent?
(http://i.imgur.com/IJF09VR.jpg)
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Yeah I've p. much given up on this. Once again, like the first WH incident, no player action will trigger anything. Just waiting. All that effort, for what? :bash:
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The two storylines about Hilen Tukoss appear to have fizzled out, I.e.
1. Real Tukoss is imprisoned somewhere, by parties unknown, for unknown reasons. We don't know, and have no way of knowing.
2. Sleeper AI Impostor Tukoss, may or may not have all the body parts it needs, for whatever reason it wanted them for. We don't know, and have no way of knowing that either.
The "Sleepers Behaving Strangely" thing, well, when A'J was organising, Valerie was trying to get people to organise towards making a survey of Sleepers and how they actually behaved, to publish that. People were somewhat dismissive though and said it was just all about a patch that made them remote rep.
Then come the Sisters of Eve reports and the DED Inner Circle reports, that show that there was a whole system out there, where Sleepers were doing stuff, which kind of says that the "Sleepers Behaving Strangely" referred to those, not the ones that were visible to us, the players.
So, even if A'J had been organised, and had made a survey, it would have been utterly irrelevant, because it wasn't those sleepers that the SOE were talking about.
Cloaked Jovian structures, Circadian Seekers, Sleeper data caches showing that all of New Eden has been being spied upon for thousands of years, vOv.
Ultimately, if CCP's lore and news team is so thinly stretched, that they can't even make a list of candidates for the Federal Elections, which is an event that has been known about for years, then I really don't see any of these storylines being developed, and the whole A'J thing might as well cease to exist. Anything A'J can do, people can do themselves , on the IGS or the Eve Fiction forum.
So, vOv
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It just pisses me off. If you're not gonna fucking finish a story , DONT START IT. Just fucking apocrypha all over. Pathetic.
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In fairness, the holidays have probably left them fairly stretched and unable to work on major projects. That's still frustrating, though, because it suggests they're literally writing stuff days before it's primed to be released and have no "queue" of ready-to-go articles that could be released at a trickle if the devs have to be busy for a bit.
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At this point I kinda just wanna start killing anyone with AJ for the lulz.
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I must admit I only read the last 3 post of this thread, but...isn't this story finished, as much as things can be in a perpetual universe?
I mean, HT is out of the picture, AJ comprimised...Doesn't that end it?
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I must admit I only read the last 3 post of this thread, but...isn't this story finished, as much as things can be in a perpetual universe?
I mean, HT is out of the picture, AJ comprimised...Doesn't that end it?
If so, then it's one of the most fantastic bait-and-switches I've ever seen.
A'J was, very much, an ongoing project. The entire 'reactivation' of the project was based on players' willingness to pursue things in an 'ongoing' manner, and CCP has explicitly stated that more sleeper stuff is to come.
To go "hey something is happening, and it has to do with Sleepers... but oh lol the sleeper project got infiltrated by something, we're not going to tell you more, it's dead now kthxbye" - that's one of the most abrupt and strange "endings" I could imagine. It's a bit much, even for CCP.
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Well, from what I've gleamed from CCP about the subject, AJ was something they could not sustain, but they would look for a way to give it some sort of closure, I'm just thinking this may be it. More sleeper stuff, could be, but I think AJ is done for now, as far as CCP involvement is concerned.
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http://www.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/2s70du/game_news_circadian_seekers_ded_advisory_vieve/
ITS HAPPENING
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"please report any unusual activity to your local DED office"
okay, but...
how would anyone know if what the seekers are doing is usual or unusual ?
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*Circadian sleeper blows up LouDou*
LouDou: "Well...that was unusual."
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another broken text message on the IGS.
vOv
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So, he's coming home in a Sleeper ship.
IE, very possibly, a drone.
At this point, I'm calling the punchline as "He's been uploaded and his body's been biomassed, but he hasn't figured that out yet."
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I feel bad after a point for everyone who put effort into this.
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DYNAMIC CONTENT
Hey it's something at least, right? Right?
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I'd rather have years of post-TEA silence than this. The thing I liked about eve was it was a setting populated by people, not space-monsters (or their biomechanical equivalent). Also, any NPC that can't invest in a proper fluid router doesn't deserve my attention. ALXVP and every other wormhole resident can communicate from wormholes just fine, why can't the mighty tech-Prometheus Hilen Tukoss? :psyccp:
WA-- T-- FU-- -CP?
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I G-ESS T-AT IT M-KES PLAYE-S SOLV- ENIGM-S AND T-EY H-VE F-N
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Honestly though, I feel a lot of pity for the people at CCP trying to do something. Everytime they do it, everytime we say it's shit.
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Honestly though, I feel a lot of pity for the people at CCP trying to do something. Everytime they do it, everytime we say it's shit.
This.
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Honestly though, I feel a lot of pity for the people at CCP trying to do something. Everytime they do it, everytime we say it's shit.
This.
While I'm not always the most positive of the things CCP has done w/r/t events... this.
They're doing something, at least, and people are getting involved and recognized for it.
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I have to admit that I really liked the mysteries revolving around Anoikis and layer after layer what is behind.
What I don't like are deus ex machinas and ancient extreme threats that everyone must unite against for the sake of the world.
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Honestly though, I feel a lot of pity for the people at CCP trying to do something. Everytime they do it, everytime we say it's shit.
This.
This. If you don't like it don't comment. Don't participate. Stay out of the way. Or we could shit in you're lore passion too. That'd be fun right?
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Honestly though, I feel a lot of pity for the people at CCP trying to do something. Everytime they do it, everytime we say it's shit.
This.
This. If you don't like it don't comment. Don't participate. Stay out of the way. Or we could shit in you're lore passion too. That'd be fun right?
I think its healthy to give both praise and criticism when earned!
Sometimes they do it well, sometimes they don't. What I'd hate to see is a community so starved for content that they accept whatever they are given without honest criticism or praise.
So IMO plus points for doing plot things, points for some events, points for IGS mysteries.
Minus points if it turns into incursions 2.0. Minus points for drifter Borg. Minus points for return of ancient evil to unite factions trope.
I say this as someone who in general thought the ccp incursions rollout and rp events were mostly good and involved lots of different people in different ways, even if the introduced farm content was eventually bad.
Is there anyone working for the drifters on the sly? Where's the in for capsuleers to oppose each other so far?
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Honestly though, I feel a lot of pity for the people at CCP trying to do something. Everytime they do it, everytime we say it's shit.
This.
This. If you don't like it don't comment. Don't participate. Stay out of the way. Or we could shit in you're lore passion too. That'd be fun right?
I kinda disagree with that. I have seen other MMO forums as well where the politically correct had to prevail over any negative comment. As long as the comment is constructive, I do not see why we should censor said comment, or it makes for a very stale community and does not encourage quality of content and criticism as well as, more generally, better appreciation of what is good and what is not.
It's also very similar to political 'discussions' where people eventually say to the critical ones 'if you don't like it, nobody forces you to stay'. I don't know for you, but I see that on a daily basis where I live. It's such a stupid argument that it makes me bang my head against a wall. Like that :bash:
The delicate issue is that when people start hammering again and again how it's shit, even with constructive arguments (a flaw I have been very guilty of in a few forums), and then it starts to detract on the good atmosphere and fun people are having. It's unnerving.
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This. If you don't like it don't comment. Don't participate. Stay out of the way. Or we could shit in you're lore passion too. That'd be fun right?
This is hardly a constructive statement. The purpose of this thread is to comment.
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Honestly though, I feel a lot of pity for the people at CCP trying to do something. Everytime they do it, everytime we say it's shit.
This.
This. If you don't like it don't comment. Don't participate. Stay out of the way. Or we could shit in you're lore passion too. That'd be fun right?
You mean the lore and backstory that CCP has utterly ruined, making an entire race/nation look utterly fucking inept? You mean that lore?
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Honestly though, I feel a lot of pity for the people at CCP trying to do something. Everytime they do it, everytime we say it's shit.
This.
This. If you don't like it don't comment. Don't participate. Stay out of the way. Or we could shit in you're lore passion too. That'd be fun right?
If you don't like the comment then don't read it. Don't frequent forums where opposing views are put forth.
Unplug your keyboard.
Or we could all just hold the same view because echo chambers are fun.
Right?
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Honestly though, I feel a lot of pity for the people at CCP trying to do something. Everytime they do it, everytime we say it's shit.
This.
This. If you don't like it don't comment. Don't participate. Stay out of the way. Or we could shit in you're lore passion too. That'd be fun right?
You mean the lore and backstory that CCP has utterly ruined, making an entire race/nation look utterly fucking inept? You mean that lore?
Don't worry, I spend my time literally spitting on what CCP has done. But I feel a bit bad for all the dev actors and people trying to do thing our way though. :/