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I'm curious what other MMOGs you play still, even if just from time to time.
I still keep a presence in SWG, as some of you know, and Free Realms as well.
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Don't have a presence in any other than Eve right now.
WoW: Played since closed Beta. Quit during Wrath. Got too stupid.
SWG: Tried it. Detested it. They've had quite a few years to fix the retarded animation issues and horrible UI.
Warhammer Online: Tried it, liked it, didn't have time for it.
Fallen Earth: Bitchin' universe. Wicked gameplay and stories. Again, didn't have time, sadly. A lot of potential.
Anarchy Online: Rocked hard when it first came out. Fell behind on the times.
And a few more, but can't remember them all, heheh.
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Eh, not playing any others besides EVE now. I've been keeping an eye on APB (http://www.apb.com) though.
I tried seeing how SWG was after the NPE changes, but almost immediately disliked the combat changes. I played it for at least a year before quitting, though a lot of that towards the end was on the Test Server. May give the SWGEmu another shot at some point, as that looks promising. I still maintain that if some tweaking was done to doctor buffs and armor the old combat system would have been workable. Also less insta-Jedis. :P
Played WAR for a couple months with my brothers and a friend, it was fun. Main issue was population imbalances and trouble finding good fights (we liked to roll alone, just the 3-5 of us).
I've occasionally checked back into WoW (not since early in WotLK now), but personally I couldn't play both EVE and WoW without having absolutely no time left. The casual thing doesn't interest me at all.
These days when I'm not playing EVE I focus on non-MMOs. Battlefield Bad Company 2 and League of Legends (http://www.leagueoflegends.com/) are what I play more often than not now.
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Progress Quest...
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Planning to pre-order APB myself. :D
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I was playing E&B when I heard about Eve. Someone said something about a game that was coming out that was Sci-Fi but grittier.
Played several other MMOs briefly, but so far Eve is the only one that has held my interest.
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Did a long stint in Wow, getting several characters to high heights. Done with that game, will likely never return.
WAR tried for a short while, couldn't hold interest to long. Vanguard had some ideas, but it's a PvE game, and I'm a PvP kinda guy. Everquest 2 I'm kinda messing around with, but it is only to stave off boredom. Fallen Earth had the idea, but fell on execution, as so many games do. All MMO's have more rooms to improve then a normal game does, but now that the developer has shut down it's fate is sealed.
The idea of a shooter mmo always gets me, but not seen anyone pull it off yet.
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EVE was love at first sight, she's the one and only and death will do us part :P
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Some MUDs, WoW for a while, CoV, EVE, Warhammer, Puzzle Pirates, FF, couple of others that I have probably forgotten all about.
RvR was pretty good in Warhammer.
WoW was nice fluff.
Puzzle Pirates was jolly good casual gaming.
CoV was a hoot storytellingwise and of course avatar tweakingwise.
FF had a nice pace of things.
EVE, basically an IRC client with nice graphics nowadays.
The game is pretty much crap.
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Not really played any before Eve. Tested WoW a few times at a friends place but did not find it interesting.
Main reason i never did though was i feared it would suck up alot of time. Oh boy, wasi right on that one...... :cry:
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Aside from EVE, I causally played a free-to-play called RF Online for a while. It wasn't great, but I'd place it on par with World of Warcraft in terms of graphics/mechanics, not bad for a free-to-play. Suffered from a number of things, including terribad Korean-to-English translation, a serious issue with illegal bots, and an inability to advance in any way aside from grinding mobs (PvP didn't really become a possibility until you were level 30 on a 0-to-50 level scale). But hey, it was free, and often fun to hop in my giant robot-cyborg-warrior dude, grab the giant rocket launcher turret he had, and start chucking nuclear missiles at the elf player hordes.
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I played WoW for a good two and a half years before I got tired of it. The gameplay quickly became stale, but the RP community, even though it was great fun at times, was what eventually drove me away. I couldn't stand the repetition of ideas, plots, characters, etc.
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After EVE, I believe I went to Planetside and City of Heroes at the same time.
I quit Planetside after the game's balance went down hill when they introduced the Craven system. I shudder at what those super mechs apparently do.
City of Heroes has been a love hate relationship. I usually come back when new content is out and hook up with the two supergroups who I was in regular touch with. I'll probably be going back to it when the new graphic update comes out.
Somewhere in that time I followed some friends to Silkroad Online. Fun game but the grind was so terrible it made grinding in City of Heroes look like reading a dirty novel. Quit that haven't gone back yet.
Tried the trial for WoW, quit after the first day when I realized Silkroad had better graphics.
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I played WoW for a good two and a half years before I got tired of it. The gameplay quickly became stale, but the RP community, even though it was great fun at times, was what eventually drove me away. I couldn't stand the repetition of ideas, plots, characters, etc.
X number of slaves freed, anyone? :roll:
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X number of slaves freed, anyone? :roll:
It was worse than that. Every new RP guild on my old server was either a remake of another guild's "glory days" or a desperate attempt at digging up something new from upcoming patch/expansion content. Players made their characters change in a continuous loop, contriving anything just to give themselves an excuse to dress in a different color scheme or tabard. The character-driven aspect of WoW RP pretty much dwindled to nothing.
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Currently playing WoW next to EVE. Love both for their unique qualities. Took some breaks though, tried AoC and Aion, the first being an utter failure cascade and the second just didn't do it for me despite all the awesome it had. Might revisit it in the future.
Also played some LotrO, which I really loved, but the combined factor of real life friends playing WoW + LotrO being less friendly for casuals than WoW (dungeons taking a damn age) had me give up on it. Another mmo worth a revisit though, if only because it is the only mmo next to EVE where I've seen RP work. Well, maybe the early days of WoW too, but not any longer.
Used to play Ragnarok Online on private servers ages ago because parents didn't feel like paying for monthly subscriptions, and have played a few MUDs called Achaea and Lusternia. While I really liked the MUD scene even though I only got into it after WoW was already released, both were small and felt much like a circlejerk of developers + longtime players. That and I never got a good MUD client + trigger system.
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I've been hopping around FtP games since I'm broke and bored. Aika is the current one, it's sedating my PvP fix. For now. O:
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I'd love to get into a decent and active fantasy MMO, but I so far haven't been able to find anything to my tastes. EVE was the firs tone I played and seems to have set the standard :P
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I wouldn't terribly mind a 'grind 'n' gear' MMO for casual-type play, but I hate the whole fantasy genre and aesthetic so much, it's ridiculous.
I've long hoped for a scifi-styled game with Diablo (roguelike) gameplay. Any recommendations?
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Eve was my first MMO.
I played Alganon for about a week (the trial) and kept yelling at the screen.
WHAT DO YOU MEAN I CAN'T SELL THAT McGUFFIN?
WHAT DO YOU MEAN I CAN'T HIT THAT OTHER PLAYER?
and so on...
and so I didn't bother giving them money
Eve is it. Not sure I'll be here forever, but I'm not sure I could bring myself to play in a game like WoW.
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The only MMO I play beside EVE right now is WoW. Bleh, but my you doesn't like internet spaceships.
Not a MMO, but you can find me online playing and admining on my clan's server in Jedi Knight: Jedi Academy. I usually run around with the name Sivana, Auntie Social, or Jennycide if I'm not impersonating a bot for teh lulz.
I first started playing MMOs with SWG for my gateway drug as Sivana the dancer/pistoleer until NGE made it Sivana the spy and an entertainer named Vaan'wu. It's where I met Casi, and why we always have to yell, "Nar Shaddaa represent!", at each other. I even named my Crow for my "family" there, Tactics in Motion.
I'm looking forward to trying The Old Republic.
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SWTOR for REALZ.
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I've played Ryzom. Prolly gonna come back to that eventually. It was some good shit.
I played AoC for a while. That game had potential and pissed it away. The roleplay community on my server was alternatively either gold or squeezing wedges of lime into my fucking eyes. Might go back and try the PvE servers.
Played a bunch of other shit. NWN2 servers had some half-decent roleplay, adaptations of Fallout like Fallout Online were interesting, old Ultima Online servers were a lark for a week or three. I've read about, investigated, or done the trial on upwards of two hundred MMOs, mostly free to play stuff and mostly not doin' the trial. Not WoW, though. Fuck WoW.
I am a fan of the stuff Three Rings churns out, though I'll be waiting for something nice to come out of Whirled before getting in too deep; I hope to find or run a nice server for SWGEMU once they get in-space combat up and running, and I want my Black Prophecy and Jumpgate: Evolution now plox.
Otherwise I play Dorf Fortress, Crusader Kings, Mount & Blade, and sowan. Been thinking of doing another Planescape: Torment run-through, or trying out Freespace 2: SCP or something. Maybe finding or modifying a nice sci-fi 4x gaem.
Oh, and KoL was fun for a while.
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I have yet to see an MMO that looks even vaguely interesting.
OK. Not true. Love looked interesting, but I didn't feel any compulsion to actually play it. APB looks like it might have some potential.
The wait for someone to produce something that can hold a candle to EVE is proving to be a long one. I am heartily sick of the creative bankruptcy that peddles disgusting WoW clones and derivative bullshit over and over again. Bitches need to grow a pair and make something good.
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I play no other MMO's. EVE is enough of a timesink.
However I have been playing a fair amount of Borderlands recently. I have also just bought the Left 4 Dead games and have quite liked the original Dawn of War series (I have everything except Soulstorm).
I am also an occasional Team Fortress 2 payer, where I tend to get typecast as a Heavy because I look like one in RL. Oh yes, and I was a major Unreal Tournament & Tribes 2 junkie back in the day.
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Fallen Earth: Bitchin' universe. Wicked gameplay and stories. Again, didn't have time, sadly. A lot of potential
They have done wonderful things with it since it went live. I played during the public beta and was not impressed. Then picked up the free trial a few weeks ago. Still subbed to it, but my time is limited and I don't play it as much anymore, but it's a lot better, and astonishingly for an MMO is getting better every patch.
Also I play DDO since it became free to play.
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Oh, and I preordered this little gem (http://www.xsyon.com/home) that no one has probably heard of.
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I am also an occasional Team Fortress 2 payer, where I tend to get typecast as a Heavy because I look like one in RL.
People typecast you in a game because of how you look IRL? That seems, um, odd...
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I am also an occasional Team Fortress 2 payer, where I tend to get typecast as a Heavy because I look like one in RL.
People typecast you in a game because of how you look IRL? That seems, um, odd...
I tend to play it with a bunch of friends that I know in RL. It's a bit of an in-joke.
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I've dabbled with Age of Conan, WoW, Warhammer, Pirates of the Burning Sea and Everquest, but didn't stay for more than a couple of months in any of them.
Eve was my first MMO, and I guess that it set the bar quite high.
One game that I did try a couple of years ago and still play from time to time is City of Heroes (and Villains), which is some good light relief from the serious business of internet spaceships.
I also have high hopes for Earthrise, assuming that it turns out to be more than vapourware.
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MMOs then.
PotBS - Did a couple of months as a Privateer for the British on Roberts. Was damn good fun, even if AvCom was dire. Abused the stupidly hard combat dungeon (Fort de Leza or whatever it was) when the combat changes came about, making it possible to run it solo rather than as a mandatory six man group.
AoC - Again, a couple of months, still subbed mind. Conqueror, Hyrkania server. RP was hit and miss as Ashar said, although I had some good times. Fingers crossed when I get my net connection sorted out I'll go back there for Godslayer.
Aion - GRINDAN GAEMS. Fun(ish) but grindan.
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I played PotBS a bit in beta. Seemed nice, just didn't really grab me for some reason. I detect some echoes of a similar design philosophy in Tyrannis, though, in comparison with the economic model there.
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I used to play City of Heroes/City of Villains, mostly teamed up with my bf running a character at the same level - hell, we were levelling up at the same moments in fights, it was awesome. Sort of a way to get together when we didn't have time for a RL date, and it was a hell of a lot of fun. He stopped playing so much when the latest Total War came out, and I just unsubbed a few months ago because I wasn't playing much, either.
But I know it's there if I ever want to levitate people and throw cars at them.
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But I know it's there if I ever want to levitate people and throw cars at them.
I call that "Thursday". >.>
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Alright, here we go in chronological order. <deep breath>
Asheron's Call 2, 7 months
Everquest, 6 months
City of Heroes, 7 months
Ragnarok Online, maybe 2.5 months (I know it barely counts, don't look at me like that)
World of Warcraft, six years
Warhammer Online, one week (most cutting disappointment of my life)
Age of Conan, two months (awesome concept, mediocre game)
Aion, one month (see above)
And like, 10 free mmos from Korea that weren't even worth that monthly fee.
... I had a girlfriend once, I swear. >>
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AvCom was dire. Abused the stupidly hard combat dungeon (Fort de Leza or whatever it was
As a mention I used to solo that group pretty easily. The solution was to use a Rapier. ;)
My problem with PotBS was that the ships' movement broke all physical laws.
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Oh dear...
At least a few other people still play WoW so I don't look so dumb...
The RP died... my guild changed it's rules, and banned marriage. Trickle down from that lead to my paladin's fiance leaving her and hiring an assassian to off her and the RP became such a mess that it killed the joy of playing her. After all, even a overly religious nut needs to be loved. Plus I can't talk to my enemies if their horde and I can't kill them if their Alliance, so it just got to be frustrating emote wars from hell and I gave up.
I still log in like twice a month to do a heroic or two or whatnot to humor my husband. I get bored quickly with humoring him in anything, WoW or otherwise.
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Wait. Your guild banned marriage? WTF?
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I really believe there's only time enough for one MMO game in anybody's life. How some of you are keeping up with multiple games at the same time I can't imagine, but my hat is off to you. I started playing MUDs (Gemstone 3, DragonRealms, and some thing called Federation on AOL) a long while back and was in Asheron's Call for about a year. Tested the waters in EQ for a week or so back when it occupied the pop culture throne that is now WoW's. After that I avoided MMOGs like the plague until the day I wrapped up a huge effort at work and finally decided to check out that spaceship MMO with the big fleets and dark atmosphere...
EVE, the only MMO for me.
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Wait. Your guild banned marriage? WTF?
To clarify: My guild was a very heavy RP guild that was a religious "cult" that followed the writing of some made up saint. They believed love was getting in the way of duty and they had seen too many couples fall the way of the heretic. I at the time was the captain of the Honor Guard, effectively just barely below being a director in Eve and in charge of training the new inductees and such. I was also a very popular raid lead in a raiding community known as Leftovers - the group actually made it in a gaming magazine at one point.
As far as two MMO's at once go... I tend to only play one at a time, I just keep subbing WoW at this point to do the once or twice a week heroic with the hubby to humor him... and I don't even do that anymore. Or really near as much Eve as I used too... baby demands loves.
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Tried to get into loads of MUD's anf MMORPG's,
The only one that has stood the test of time has been Geas (http://www.geas.de/).
It is a little known gem. A uniquely immersive and fun RP MUD.
The system, in terms of the skills progression, combat, crafting, etc etc has been pretty much perfected over the years and is still being developed.
Also, the community is great. I keep going back.
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I cant play more than MMO at a time, work and RL gets in the way.
Past experience though:
-Planetside
-WoW (hated it)
However, when i'm "tired" of eve, i go and blast some orbitals and do fun stuff with Battlefiedl2142.
One MMO that i am hoping to test when it gets released in JumpGate evolution, latest devblogs from netdevil have sparked my interest quite a bit.
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Funny thing, I'm playing WoW these days. Not because the game itself drew me in, but because a lot of RL friends play, including work mates and one of my brothers. I wanted to play with them, and so we do some very very casual stuff (bit of questing, mostly running random dungeons).
One of my buddies at work summed it up pretty well. WoW is like golf: the game itself may be the worst thing ever, but half the experience is the social side, and that's pretty good.
(They can't HTFU enough to play EVE. :( )
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I could never play more than one MMO. I dabbled with a few before I settled on EVE. I was going to hold out for DC Universe Online, but a mate got me into EVE.
Since then, that's my game. I couldn't play two MMOs at the same time. One of the would really suffer.
I mean, I pretty much stopped playing EVE to play Dragon Age (Played it through 3 times), and then again to play Mass Effect 2, so when I'm playing a game, I concentrate on that, rather than dabbling around with a bunch of things.
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Waiting for Cataclysm to get back into WoW. It's not the awesome-sauce Eve once seemed to be, but it is definitely not as bad as the raving haters would make you out to believe. It's the best game of it's kind, for sure.
Currently kind of playing Champions, which I bought because I got it (and some gametime) dirt cheap. The superhero thing sort of appeals to me and it has things I like, but overall it needs more polish, needs to look better and needs to be better balanced. Oh, and some more meaningful content.
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I can't remember, but I am pretty sure that EvE was my first MMO. Pulled a trial, went away for a bit, then cam back and stayed until now, more or less.
I did take a break and tried Star Wars Galaxies, loved the universe, but the game play killed that off. Mostly the grind and the starship combat. If I get an X-Wing, I should be able to blow up TIEs right off the bat, and not wait for a level 5 laser cannon. It does hold the strange distinction of the first and only MMO someone actually tried to cyber with me. And when I told him no, he left me on whatever planet he brought me to. Twit. I am looking forward to The Old Republic, hoping it is everything Galaxies was not.
Never tried WoW, never been into fantasy that much. Tried a bunch of free to play MMOs, but not enough RP, and EvE and RL took up too much time for me to really care about them. Currently trying a trial on Global Agenda, not much RP but really nice shooter and team game play. And no monthly subscription, so I might buy it just for that.
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Tried some Runes of Magic recently. It's quite alright, but until they add some things like enabling diamond trade through the AH again (I want to pay for the microtransactions through ingame currency) and maybe do something like the dungeon finder in wow I doubt I'll put many more hours into it.
Lusternia got a hold of me again, so I am learning how to write triggers and stuff.
Looking forward to Guild Wars 2 and the KotoR mmo. And the cataclysm expansion for wow. Although if I can't justify raiding anymore due to time constraints or lack of interest, or another mmo taking my preference, it may be goodbye again. Hopefully not for short stints like AoC or Aion again, I'll be annoyed if Bioware does not deliver.
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LotRO goes F2P tomorrow (details here (http://www.lotro.com/free.php) on the pricing setup) in a very similar manner to DDO. For those who have had LotRO counts in the past, you can download the client here (http://www.lotro.com/support/download-lotro) and start playing as of yesterday.
They've added some new servers, and there's a major content push as of the F2P launch. I'm getting back into it, I think. I may also go VIP and cancel my EVE subs and go into LotRO full time, since it's honestly a much better MMO imo (since I mostly PvE anyway due to lack of isk and time to MAKE isk what with school, and if you're looking for a PvE centric MMO, there honestly is no better than LotRO), and only stopped playing before because I didn't know anyone who played.
The community in LotRO is also fantastic. This video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKI1eRDrqJQ&feature=channel) does an excellent job of explaining why - i.e. Turbine has gone out of their way to facilitate an inclusive community in LotRO (and also DDO) that helps each other out. The community not only does not bag on RPers, but the unofficial RP server (Landroval) is actually really well handled by the community as a whole, and with little policing.
If you're looking for an MMO to actually RP in, make up a character on Landroval, and you will find it in spades, and you won't get the "Hurr hurr hurr RPers hurr hurr hurr derp" nonsense to anywhere near the same level.
I have a solo hunter on Landroval (I don't remember her name, randomized) for when my friends aren't around, and my friends and I have set up characters on one of the new servers (the one that starts with a C, Clawhammer or Chickpea or Chicklet or whatever) for regular play. We're having some good fun already with it only being live for a couple days, and the community does not seem to have suffered from the F2P infusion yet, people are still really cool.
Maybe I'll see some of ya over there. :)
Also: I managed to nab the name Urist on the new server for my dwarf. \o/ That is awesome and hilarious and most people don't know why.
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LotRO goes F2P tomorrow (details here (http://www.lotro.com/free.php) on the pricing setup) in a very similar manner to DDO. For those who have had LotRO counts in the past, you can download the client here (http://www.lotro.com/support/download-lotro) and start playing as of yesterday.
They've added some new servers, and there's a major content push as of the F2P launch. I'm getting back into it, I think. I may also go VIP and cancel my EVE subs and go into LotRO full time, since it's honestly a much better MMO imo (since I mostly PvE anyway due to lack of isk and time to MAKE isk what with school, and if you're looking for a PvE centric MMO, there honestly is no better than LotRO), and only stopped playing before because I didn't know anyone who played.
The community in LotRO is also fantastic. This video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKI1eRDrqJQ&feature=channel) does an excellent job of explaining why - i.e. Turbine has gone out of their way to facilitate an inclusive community in LotRO (and also DDO) that helps each other out. The community not only does not bag on RPers, but the unofficial RP server (Landroval) is actually really well handled by the community as a whole, and with little policing.
If you're looking for an MMO to actually RP in, make up a character on Landroval, and you will find it in spades, and you won't get the "Hurr hurr hurr RPers hurr hurr hurr derp" nonsense to anywhere near the same level.
I have a solo hunter on Landroval (I don't remember her name, randomized) for when my friends aren't around, and my friends and I have set up characters on one of the new servers (the one that starts with a C, Clawhammer or Chickpea or Chicklet or whatever) for regular play. We're having some good fun already with it only being live for a couple days, and the community does not seem to have suffered from the F2P infusion yet, people are still really cool.
Maybe I'll see some of ya over there. :)
Also: I managed to nab the name Urist on the new server for my dwarf. \o/ That is awesome and hilarious and most people don't know why.
I tried it on free to play after I read your post. (10GB Download -- wow)
Thanks for the heads-up, I played for a couple of hours in the newbie section and it seemed pretty good.
Hopefully it won't rot in the way all the other MMORPG's I have tried - but as it looks like it might be heading in the direction of pay-to-win we shall see...
At least it is a light-hearted break from EVE, and my gf might even join in a game which would be nice.
:)
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I started playing EVE over 5 years ago and it still have not let go of my interest, thoug it has dwindled for a few periods.
About a year into EVE I was allowed to create a char on a friend's WOW account because I love the universe it's in (HUGE Warcraft fan here, played W2 with the neighbours daughter as a kid and own W3 and W3TFT) and wanted to try it out.
After getting an Alliance Paladin (Back when there was unique classes to each side) to lvl 15 solo I was bored out of my mind and quit. About a year ago, another friend of mine tried it out and I decided to give it another go to be part of the trio. I will admit that beating all those 'you need 5 guys for this' instances with only 3 guys was hillarious and much fun. As a Night Elf warrior I serve the role of tank for my friend's Draenei priest healer and the Human mage damage-dealer. The trio was perfectly balanced for our purpose, and we would level together too.
That period from 1-79 when I used to be the dedicated tank was nice, as I was actualyl releid upon to serve a role, one I can say I exelled at without bragging. Then I hit 80 and it all went downhill. The gear-grind and constant crap they call 'pvp balance' was horrible, compared to mages, warlocks, druids, hunters etc. the priest and warrior is perhaps the most underdog classes ever concieved.
After that, the only other fun was a Paladin duo me and the mage player made to primarely kick ass in PVP. We would fund these with our mains ofc, and it was quite alot of fun ruining the honor-farming operations of the horde-players. Holding the farm in Alterac valley alone with just the two of us against half the enemy team was epic. We held that for 5 consecutive waves of hostiles.
And those two situations are the only positive experiances I've ever had in that entire game. Blizzard keeps dumbing the game down, and by now we have left in disgust to dedicate our time to EVE, an MMO that's infinitly superior in so many ways...
Besides, there is RL. I don't have time for more than one MMO at a time.
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I like running dungeons with RL friends in WoW, but I can't imagine PVPing in that damn game.
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I really wanna try Lego Universe when it comes out.
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There's only one other MMO I play other than EVE, and that's the first-person twitch space combat game called Vendetta Online (http://www.vendetta-online.com).
Ran a 40-50 person RP guild there for a year, have spent 3 years or so on the council of another guild. Game's been compared to a first-person, multiplayer Escape Velocity before, as well as other games like Elite or Freelancer. "Space Quake" was another term used for it. Fun, to some extent, but the community is small (like, so small that the general "RP community" in EVE is probably several times the size of the entire VO community), and generally unfriendly to people who want to RP; the latter is the primary reason I don't play much anymore.
Worth a shot if you want to try it, but I personally wouldn't suggest spending lots of money on it.
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I dip my toes into the WoW waters every now and again. It was my first MMO, started playing it maybe 4 years ago. Soon I'll be past the first zone in Outland! I really, really dig the trolls in that game, everything else is kinda meh. I'll admit, getting access to flight has made the game much cooler.
I've tried LotRO and PotBS, they were ok. Lord of the Rings is really pretty, but neither of them held my interest enough to want to persist.
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There's only one other MMO I play other than EVE, and that's the first-person twitch space combat game called Vendetta Online (http://www.vendetta-online.com).
Ran a 40-50 person RP guild there for a year, have spent 3 years or so on the council of another guild. Game's been compared to a first-person, multiplayer Escape Velocity before, as well as other games like Elite or Freelancer. "Space Quake" was another term used for it. Fun, to some extent, but the community is small (like, so small that the general "RP community" in EVE is probably several times the size of the entire VO community), and generally unfriendly to people who want to RP; the latter is the primary reason I don't play much anymore.
Worth a shot if you want to try it, but I personally wouldn't suggest spending lots of money on it.
Vendetta online? I've never heard of it, but that don't mean anything - I've been looking for online twitch-based space-shooters ever since falling in love with the game-play of Freelancer. Sadly I've not yet done so, I was hoping Jump Gate Evolution could come out and fix that problem. Sadly I hear JGE is cancelled now thus I'll have to look elsewhere.
Is Vendetta the only mmo option or is there others?
*EDIT* As for PVP in WOW, it was not that bad - the only good thing about it that had EVE beat is that there is always a reliable supply of it and that, atl on paper, it's decently balanced. Ofc that's due to leveling system and that has it's down-sides too, (twinks, super-funded chars, etc.) I did however enjoy the option of stopping my level on 59 with the char I made later and keep at it there, if only for the constant feeling of revenge it got. WOW polarises the players and I never encountered a hordling who was not a blaring fool if he was way over my lvl - hooting hollaring and begging me to duel him so he could kill me. Annoying. Killing them over and over in battlefields was thus very satisfactory, but you never get the feeling of achievement like in EVE, for obvious reasons. The PVP was cheap and reliable like that, and at times that's all you want.
One of the few things I miss from WOW was the feeling of immersion you get at times when you walk around, because the areas are so versatile and varied. Questing in the Night Elf homelands was actually quite entertaining, surprizingly enough if only for the the idea that I was out helping 'my own kind' as such. Perhaps one day Blizzard will realize how they keep running the game into the mud and improve it, instead of making it worse. One can hope.
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EVE is really the only MMO i care to play at all right now. I mess around a bit in Fallen Earth which is pretty good and has alot of potential, and I still play DDO a bit as well its not bad as a free to play and Im a big D&D geek so I kinda have to play it a bit. Havent looked at APB yet. Only other MMO Im probably gonna ply is SWTOR.
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*EDIT* As for PVP in WOW, it was not that bad - the only good thing about it that had EVE beat is that there is always a reliable supply of it and that, atl on paper, it's decently balanced. Ofc that's due to leveling system and that has it's down-sides too, (twinks, super-funded chars, etc.) I did however enjoy the option of stopping my level on 59 with the char I made later and keep at it there, if only for the constant feeling of revenge it got. WOW polarises the players and I never encountered a hordling who was not a blaring fool if he was way over my lvl - hooting hollaring and begging me to duel him so he could kill me. Annoying. Killing them over and over in battlefields was thus very satisfactory, but you never get the feeling of achievement like in EVE, for obvious reasons. The PVP was cheap and reliable like that, and at times that's all you want.
One of the few things I miss from WOW was the feeling of immersion you get at times when you walk around, because the areas are so versatile and varied. Questing in the Night Elf homelands was actually quite entertaining, surprizingly enough if only for the the idea that I was out helping 'my own kind' as such. Perhaps one day Blizzard will realize how they keep running the game into the mud and improve it, instead of making it worse. One can hope.
Lemme agree and disagree with you here.
First, I kinda agree with this idea of WoW PvP, that's it cheap and reliable. It is too as you say, despite the nay-sayers everywhere (mostly on the forums), very nicely balanced. Of course, there are flukes every now and then, but all that's very minor in the grand scheme of things. In a way, I wouldn't even compare Eve PvP with WoW PvP. Different animals entirely, but I will say that I have grown to really to enjoy PvP in WoW. It's not serious, like WoW in general isn't, and that's the point.
Which brings me to my next point. You're saying Blizzard is driving the game into mud and I disagree, though you didn't really go into specifics. In my eyes, they're making it more casual friendly and well.. I'm a casual, so I ain't complaining. In my eyes, they're making it a better game on the side as well. I for one enjoyed Wrath of the Lich King more than BC, even if I don't agree with every single thing that happened during the expansion (mostly, I think the ending was a bit meh, both storyline-wise and as a raid instance), but it still gave me my best moments in WoW.
Anyway, since abandoning Eve and going on hiatus from WoW, I've cruised in lots of different MMOs. That experience has really solidified my opinion that WoW is the best MMO on the market, while Eve is excellent as well (I was just a bit burned out and the game wasn't really evolving in directions that directly tickle my fancy) and certainly the most unique offering. It isn't that other games don't have good ideas, because they do, but WoW wins because on the whole it's a very nice piece of work and polished in a way that is difficult to appreciate without seeing the lack of polish in other games. Also, you mention the immersion factor.. it is huge. It's a shame that I've yet to meet another game to match it.
Oh, I'm entirely Horde and it is perhaps odd (or perhaps not), but the experience is similar on this side : Alliance seem like a bunch of teenage idiots. I think it's a matter of the wall between factions having been built very high in WoW, so the one's you see climbing over that divide to your side of the pond being always the worst of the bunch. Besides, I feel WoW is less about your entire faction as the community, but about your guild and associated players as your community of choice. So, when I feel at home in the Horde, it's my sub-community that I like.
Of course, I didn't choose the Horde because of the community I would join the future, but because of the lore. This inhuman army that came to ravage Azeroth, now stranded and calling it home, is what I have enjoyed in the game from the day I played the first Warcraft RTS. As a consequence and rarity as well, I entirely enjoy the post-Thrall Horde, even with its apparent fault lines and political tensions.
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Vendetta online? I've never heard of it, but that don't mean anything - I've been looking for online twitch-based space-shooters ever since falling in love with the game-play of Freelancer. Sadly I've not yet done so, I was hoping Jump Gate Evolution could come out and fix that problem. Sadly I hear JGE is cancelled now thus I'll have to look elsewhere.
Is Vendetta the only mmo option or is there others?
It's the only one that I know of that isn't officially still in alpha/beta stages, though when I last played seriously I'd have argued it was still a beta, just one you paid for.
It's about $10 USD/month, so not that expensive, and that gives you six character slots to play with. There's an eight-hour trial (for time spent ingame, not like how EVE's trial works) period that you can try dicking around with. It doesn't take more than a couple days or so to get to the point where you can fly/use ships and equipment that are 'average' in PVP, but making the money to afford that might be a little more problematic. ;)
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That experience has really solidified my opinion that WoW is the best MMO on the market
Actually, I'm going to have to disagree with you, there's a lot better MMOs out there than WoW (most of them, actually), and for a variety of reasons, but any aspect of WoW that one enjoys, someone did it way better than WoW did.
What WoW is the hands down best at is being a Skinner Box (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operant_conditioning_chamber). All MMOs are this to a degree, but frankly Blizzard has perfected Operant Conditioning through its time with Diablo, Diablo 2, and WoW to a degree unmatched by any other entity.
I can't honestly say I know very many people who have played WoW to multiple level 80s and continue to grind epic raids for the best gear that they enjoy the game or even think it's fun, or if they thought it's fun, think it's fun anymore.
WoW is by far not the best MMO out there, but it is the best psychologically priming game in existence on the market today.
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That experience has really solidified my opinion that WoW is the best MMO on the market
Actually, I'm going to have to disagree with you, there's a lot better MMOs out there than WoW (most of them, actually), and for a variety of reasons, but any aspect of WoW that one enjoys, someone did it way better than WoW did.
What WoW is the hands down best at is being a Skinner Box (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operant_conditioning_chamber). All MMOs are this to a degree, but frankly Blizzard has perfected Operant Conditioning through its time with Diablo, Diablo 2, and WoW to a degree unmatched by any other entity.
I can't honestly say I know very many people who have played WoW to multiple level 80s and continue to grind epic raids for the best gear that they enjoy the game or even think it's fun, or if they thought it's fun, think it's fun anymore.
WoW is by far not the best MMO out there, but it is the best psychologically priming game in existence on the market today.
^^ This.
The only on-line Multiplayer rpg's I have found that do not suffer from this (in fact, even then justs a couple of them) have been text-based.
Although I have been pleasantly surprised bby LoTRO. Having leveled to 13 since it went free to play and explored a lot of the system and a bit of the land - if you just forget the grind and get on with being someone in bree-land there is still a lot to enjoy. While the 'Skinner' grinders running about from quest to spawn to shop to trainer don't spoil the atmosphere as much as I thought they might.
Also, some good community of RPers.
And - being someone who 'Studied' the books as a kid (well there was only lotr, silmarillion and the hobbit in those days) The world is very satisfying to wander around in - They seem to have got the compromises right.
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Ultima Online and Eve online are the only two MMORPG to keep my interest. Tried most of the others till around time WoW was released. WoW lasted about 3 days when I realised I'm doing just the same things that I did in the other games.
So now I only play Eve until something original and exciting comes out. Probably when hell freezes over.
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So now I only play Eve until something original and exciting comes out. Probably when hell freezes over.
http://www.infinity-universe.com/Infinity/index.php
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So now I only play Eve until something original and exciting comes out. Probably when hell freezes over.
http://www.infinity-universe.com/Infinity/index.php
Given how often that site is really updated and how fast they are progressing with that game, hell being frozen is likely to happen first.
That poor kid has been coding away for years on that game. :(
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FFXIV beta. Interesting is the first word that springs to mind. If it weren't for the other people, you could be playing a regular RPG. I'm wondering though how long that will last, considering AoC had the same till you left the starting area and suddenly all the voicing and awesomeness was gone :bash:
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FFXIV beta.
Ohjesuschristno. They are making a Final Fantasy MMO? I'm torn between the instinctive desire to run as far away as possible from anything Final fucking Fantasy (Oh please make it final and stop lying! :P) while screaming over comms for an airstrike on whichever datacentre it is that hosts their servers; and signing up with the sole intent of griefing and trolling as many fanbois as possible. :lol:
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They already made one. Like, 7 years ago.
Now they're making another. :D
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Infinity online is slow, but he is sticking to his concept and making real progress.
I found this recently
http://www.havenandhearth.com/portal/
And I am blown away. Full pvp, massive seamless sandbox universe, 2d topdown. Great crafting and although I have not fought anyone yet (did I mention massive sandbox universe?) the combat system seems good.
They say the game is in alpha, but only because of what their objective is. The game is already better than most other games I have played.
I have put maybe 40 real time hours into it and am just scratching the surface.
Definitely my game of choice at the moment.
There are maybe 300 players logged on at any one time so far as I have seen. (may go up now....)
The forum seems to be over-run with pwneristic kids, which makes the patience of the more mature types even more inspiring. Well, the idea is for everyone to have fun right?
Anyway, there ya go.
dM