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EVE-Online RP Discussion and Resources => Player Driven Content => Topic started by: Katrina Oniseki on 01 Jan 2015, 19:28
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Yeah, another club. Herp derp. Thinking maybe there would be a more interesting and possibly conflict inciting way to put up a club, and make it something people can actually fight and sneer over.
The thought is that it's invitation only. There is only ONE active invite out at any time. To get in, they must be invited (and contact the club owner saying they have been invited), where they will be added to the allowed list. That person who was invited has ONE invitation to give out, and only ONE. After they invite someone, and someone joins, it's wasted.
If the person invites more than one person, only the first person to get in gets in. Everyone else misses out. Bribes are welcome. Bribe the person with the active invite, or bribe the owner to get special treatment if there are more than one.
If someone gets kicked out, the person who invited them gets kicked out too... so choose wisely. You can auction off your invite, but if someone who hates you buys it out, they can get you kicked out by ruining the invite.
New invite chains may be started based on events, or other competitions.
As for the rules of the joint? I was thinking more of an anything-goes, so that it's not such a safe and boring bet. Maybe you'll get your ass grabbed. Maybe you'll get punched in the face. Getting in is the hard part, so once you're in, why not make it somewhere worth the effort? Make it a challenge.
Just a thought.
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Novel idea. I like it.
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I don't like something that encourages more exclusivity
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What kind of club is this?
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An ace of clubs.
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OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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This is a cool idea, but there aren't enough roleplayers to populate the non-exclusive clubs that already exist.
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This is a cool idea, but there aren't enough roleplayers to populate the non-exclusive clubs that already exist.
This, really. :\
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Exclusivity breeds interest.
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P. sure exclusivity is what got the RP community in the current fractured and small state it's in. The OP's idea is neat, but wouldn't do too well because, as Gwen pointed out, the community is too small.
And there's enough closed door RP in little groups. Gotta make something that everyone can get involved in positively, not something exclusive that breeds more negative feelings.
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I would argue that you can't force everyone to play with everyone. The source of that problem Anslo might lie in something else (the better question would be 'why do you think people continue to stay in their little exclusive corners with eventually very little to do ?'), but I'm not sure that's the right thread to continue on that, especially as it has been beaten to death already anyway.
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Exclusivity hasn't lead to a fractured community. The community being fractured is what's led to exclusivity and it's been that way forever. This is generally speaking a good thing because the community consists of mutually exclusive types of people and somehow getting all of them together would be detrimental to everyone involved. Oil and water are useful on their own and does not mix.
There are chunks of RPers in Eve I wouldn't be caught dead with and there are chunks of RPers that wouldn't get caught dead with me, and this goes for pretty much everyone in Eve. Some people you simply don't want to deal with IC or OOC and that's a simple fact of life. Better for everyone involved that they build their sandcastles in opposite corners of the sandbox.
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Not much of a community then IMO. It's been this way forever. Why not try changing it to see what happens?
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You know what the funny bit about this is?
The degrees of separation between a capsuleer and thier RP enemy (or even OOC) can be REALLY FRACKING SMALL.
Which.. though could lead to some hilarity?
Could also lead to some bullshit ragey nonsense too. The first time someone get sinto the club and sees oh HELL NO I WILL NOT RP HERE IF THIS FUCKING ASSHOLE IN CHANNEL.. the idea fizzles out. :/
And knowing the insane levels of OOC derpery have have gone on in 2014 alone.. heh heh heh ...
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Not much of a community then IMO. It's been this way forever. Why not try changing it to see what happens?
Feel free. It's just that it's been tried, since the very inception of the notion of RP in an MMO. It doesn't work. You will have wildly diverging ideas of what constitutes etiquette, RP, IC/OOC barriers and a hundred other things in any RP community and when mashed together they just don't fit. That's why it will by default be better for everyone involved if there's a degree of separation between the mutually exclusive philosophies and ways, so everyone gets to play without constantly having someone ruin their play.
It's the reason you get so many OOC conflicts in this game, because these differences will eventually clash and there'll be wreckage everywhere. This is inevitable in a single sandbox, but a certain degree of separation allows everyone to keep building and doing their things regardless. Forcing everything into one single box will by necessity eradicate views, rp styles and philosophies until there's one uniform way of doing things.
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Meh whatever. Not worth the energy to fight then. GL HF.
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I'd been thinking about something like this recently, but now may not be the right time.
I do think the "You can't come!" marketing approach (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crosjxD4XaI) does have some value. :)
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I'd been thinking about something like this recently, but now may not be the right time.
I do think the "You can't come!" marketing approach (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crosjxD4XaI) does have some value. :)
I work for a branding agency in RL. We've done branding plays like this, and the reality is that the "exclusivity" is a sham. For example, if you go to join Gilt.com, the wait to join is a front. It's there just to generate value from the sense of exclusivity.
I'm with the folks that are doubtful on this. Also, I think "taking the safeties off" is a big risk and could lead to multiple problems. It's one thing if a channel is invite-only by the moderator(s). There are several people in this community whose judgement I would trust to now who shouldn't be invited to an anything goes environment. But, the invites are now being proxied out to others.
Also, the reason I think people like to put no-weapons/violence rules on their bars is because it avoids the whole nonsense of "I shot you," "No, you didn't."
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This is a cool idea, but there aren't enough roleplayers to populate the non-exclusive clubs that already exist.
This.
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This is a cool idea, but there aren't enough roleplayers to populate the non-exclusive clubs that already exist.
This.
Keep in mind, a lot of the problems with the non-exclusive clubs are that they're non-exclusive, which means open to people you might not want to rub shoulders with, and thus becomes exclusive to them.
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All good points. It's just an idea, not something I intended to be the one to actually start.
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This is a cool idea, but there aren't enough roleplayers to populate the non-exclusive clubs that already exist.
Out of curiosity since I just came back to test the waters and all, what are those clubs that need more RPers by the way ? I'm genuinely asking because I seem to have lost track of the channels of the moment...
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Those I know/last I checked:
- The Golden Masque
- The Corvidae Club
- L'Amour in Ballo
- Auvuer(?) Beach
- Ivory Tower
- Gallente Lounge
- Lock, Stock and Barrel
- Vertigo Theory
- and maybe some of the newer ones?
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The Last Gate
The Skyhook
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Auver is under new management. Talk to Ayallah.
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I-RED Lounge
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What about Divinities Edge, Anslolkek?
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I deleted it. No one goes to my venues and I needed intel channels.
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I can confirm the Gallente Lounge is active. --People sit in it a lot, anyway. :p We could use a bit more actual RP activity though. If I'm on, I'm willing to engage. : j Just walk in, it's cool. There's projectors too, if showing up in person is too much.
This is a good thread to have around? Which of these are actually open to walk ins or projections, to what factions? I managed to walk into I-RED once but that sort of thing is hair-raising (laugh). Ah what I will go through for some authentic food!
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There is already a thread that contains just that sort of information.
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I'm enjoying the activity n mine but I wouldn't wish to guess at how long it would last
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There is already a thread that contains just that sort of information.
While that's true, I guess I still worry, and actively talking about them reassures me. /jitters There is many a channel that when I pop in appears empty. How real is that o____ o? And how much is just time zone. Just the worries of a worrier~
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I thought this was a thread about a club with daisy-chains in it.
Super disappointed.
sad.