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EVE-Online RP Discussion and Resources => EVE Fiction + Fiction discussion => Topic started by: Ken on 05 Mar 2011, 19:19
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this (http://eve-files.com/dl/239225)
volume 1
rough draft
so not perfect
and more to follow
um... your thoughts?
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That's an extraordinary piece of work, Ken. Still needs a little editing, but as far as I'm concerned it's fucking amazing. :D
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That's an extraordinary piece of work, Ken. Still needs a little editing, but as far as I'm concerned it's fucking amazing. :D
That.
We miss your majestic fictional works. :C
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This is really...
Wow.
I'm gonna have to spend an evening with this.
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I was wondering where you'd been, Ken. Busy, it seems.
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:D Looks great Ken - however one thing so far
"Traditional political power, specifically in the form of the expansive interstellar nation-state,
coalesces in a few places within New Eden: Villore, Luminaire, New Caldari, Kihtaled, Amarr
Prime, Pator, Tanoo, Yulai"
Kihtaled is NOT the core of the Khanid Kingdom, Khanid Prime is - thats where the seat of the King is.
:3 I also think you spelt Yulai wrong in the "Yoiul Conference" (Middle of p6)
EDIT: Failreading
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Glorious :D
Stuff to come on the 'outlaw' factions?
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Jesus fuck, son.
You don't disappoint with these 'return after a silence' things, do ya? :D Pretty damned awesome stuff.
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Duuuude.
And that's just the first draft of volume 1?!
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A note on the conference: It was held on board a Jovian cruiser named "Yoiul". Which may or may not have been in Yulai system.
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Devoured, and I'm hungry for more. The part of me that was studying cultural anthropology before turning to medicine really loves the humanizing approach that was taken in the writing style.
If I may ask, how much of the beautiful little details came from PF sources, and how much came from your own thoughts? The quote from Heideran VII after Vak'Atioth sounds like he was channeling the spirit of a certain Roman emperor. And, I'm going to spend all day imagining and snickering about a bit of light Caldari theater based on the comedy-of-errors-like meeting of the (selfless and dutiful) farmer and the (over-the-top and clueless) Gallente Captain Kirk - "Oh, those silly, silly foreigners."
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damn, why don't ccp come up with this kind of material......would allow many more people to do "lightlolRP" for fun in local with some context.
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Post this on EVE Fiction! Needs CCP exposure!!!
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Would someone be kind enough to upload it somewhere else ? It happens I am unable to go further than 400 or 500 ko when dowloading it on evefiles :/
Thank you by advance =)
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Ken,
Have you read this thread?
http://www.eve-chatsubo.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=220&hilit=galileo
I don't know how relevant any of it still is in TonyG's Eve, but a lot of important (to me) PF that's been altered slightly is still preserved in it's original form there.
For example: Current Hyasyoda Corp description:
Hyasyoda is one of the oldest Caldari megacorporations, formed shortly after contact with the Gallente. The corporation is conservative and cautious in its business dealings. Hyasyoda focuses on bread-and-butter industries such as agriculture, mining, and consumer products. Its operations are largely contained to the State itself, although it has partnerships with foreign companies to market many of its products in foreign territories.
The corporation is still largely controlled by the Osmon family that founded it, though much of its stock has been sold off over the company’s long history. Perhaps as a result of this history, Hyasyoda’s corporate culture is just as conservative as its business strategies, with a strong leaning toward old school corporatism and established tradition. The amount of social pressure on Hyasyoda employees to “fit in” is extremely high, even for the Caldari State, where such pressure is part of daily life.
Hyasyoda is also extremely distrustful of the other megacorporations, the exception being Ishukone, their longtime ally; the corporation is also wary of any hint of centralized State authority. As a result, Hyasyoda has been one of the strongest critics of the Caldari Providence Directorate, despite joining it voluntarily shortly before the Caldari Prime invasion, and has led opposition to the Executor in the CEP.
Corporate Police Force is the police and security arm of the Hyasyoda mega corporation.
vs the original PF
Hyasyoda is one of the oldest of the Caldari mega corporations, having been formed shortly after first contact with the Gallenteans when the Caldari were still in the Industrial Age. It's conservative and cautious, but adheres to the old saying: 'Only the paranoid survive.'
Additionally I would suggest that you re-read The Science of Never Again, and take a look at the art work for Cold Wind. To me they suggest that the Caldari rather technologicall primitive compared to the Gallenteans.
Infact the old Kaalakiota corp description outright says so.
Kaalakiota: The mighty Kaalakiota humble beginnings date back to the time when the primitive Caldari where being economically exploited by the much more advanced Gallente Federation. The Kaalakiota, or KK as it's often called, dabbled in trade with the Gallenteans, but soon started raking in wealth on real estate and manufactures. The KK was at the forefront of the Caldari opposition against the Gallente Federation, something the corporation used to its great advantage
Keep in mind that Tony controls PF now, and there is a reason certain little details keep disappearing.
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Thanks for the compliments, everyone!
That's an extraordinary piece of work, Ken. Still needs a little editing, but as far as I'm concerned it's fucking amazing. :D
:yar:
Want to volunteer as editor?
Kihtaled is NOT the core of the Khanid Kingdom, Khanid Prime is - thats where the seat of the King is.
Corrected in v0.91. Thanks, Mathra!
Devoured, and I'm hungry for more. The part of me that was studying cultural anthropology before turning to medicine really loves the humanizing approach that was taken in the writing style.
If I may ask, how much of the beautiful little details came from PF sources, and how much came from your own thoughts? The quote from Heideran VII after Vak'Atioth sounds like he was channeling the spirit of a certain Roman emperor. And, I'm going to spend all day imagining and snickering about a bit of light Caldari theater based on the comedy-of-errors-like meeting of the (selfless and dutiful) farmer and the (over-the-top and clueless) Gallente Captain Kirk - "Oh, those silly, silly foreigners."
So glad you enjoyed! Humanizing the story was one of my primary goals. The various quotations, those details that I can most easily nail down and provide you an answer on, are about 1/3 PF, 1/3 transplants from real historical quotations, and 1/3 stuff I made up.
Post this on EVE Fiction! Needs CCP exposure!!!
o7 Okay, you got it!
Would someone be kind enough to upload it somewhere else?
Someone would (https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&pid=explorer&chrome=true&srcid=0BxGFIfCteah5MTQwNzQ4MDgtYWIxMy00OTMwLThkNzAtMDY4NWFkMjQ3OWUy&hl=en).
tasty stuff
Hamish, thanks so much for the link! I had not seen that old thread (have only read a few chatsubo threads in my time), but it's a great resource for trying to get a handle on the early Caldari... the challenges of which are obviously not a new development. Also, not surprising to see the identity of the OP. :)
It's interesting that Isuuaya, which is referenced in some of the old PF, receives very little play. That may be understandable considering it isn't one of the Big Eight and, I must presume, has long since been absorbed by competitors.
As for the level of technology present on Caldari Prime, I think my depiction reasonably shows a civilization still using industrial age tech. They have radios, the means by which I imagine the Gallenteans learned that Caldari Prime's inhabitants were advanced, but haven't yet realized how to use them on a large scale or simply prefer other methods of communication because of environmental/social conditions. For example, perhaps Caldari Prime doesn't have an ionosphere being so far from Luminaire and thus long-distance sky wave transmissions are not feasible, relegating radio wave communication to a niche hobby rather than a political/military game-changer as it was on Earth.
By the same token, the first contact scene I depicted was meant to show a rather advanced (globalized and spacefaring) Gallente making contact with the far simpler (agricultural commune-dwelling) Caldari. If I had to place the Caldari in an Earth-equivalent decade at the moment of Gallente arrival, I would say they had technology comparable to the 1950s. The Gallente, on the other hand were working with stuff comparable to the 2050s. I bump the Caldari up 100 years from Herko's analogy, but I imagine that while they had 1950s tech, they weren't necessarily using it in the same ways we did on Earth or probably that they had only developed some sciences to their 20th century equivalents while others languished for whatever reason.
With regards to economic exploitation by the Gallenteans, I don't think I spared the Caldari much in that regard, but I also tried to show that they coped with the changes.
Across the board with this project I've tried to give equal play to both the old school and Tony-G school (EA and later) of PF. My hope is that I can wrap them together well enough that you can't tell the difference and don't particularly mind which parts come from which "era". At the same time, I didn't want to stray too far off the beaten path of what could be verified in PF sources, and so have been forced to gloss over certain things using vocabulary that describes long-term trends rather than specific events wherever it seemed best to let sleeping dogs lie.
Will keep working on it and improving, of course!
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Ah thank you !
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That was a bloody good read. Many thanks for the work.
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Really an excellent start. I would have loved to have had this as a new player.
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Damn, that's well written. Makes my pitiful scrawlings look like, umm, pitiful scrawlings.
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I would probably make a terrible editor. I still screw up 'it's' and 'its'.
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Really an excellent start. I would have loved to have had this as a new player.
Thank you. It was specifically written with newcomers in mind. If you like, point the rookies toward it when they come in asking for information about the lore.
Damn, that's well written. Makes my pitiful scrawlings look like, umm, pitiful scrawlings.
Thanks! 你说中文吗？
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Damn, that's well written. Makes my pitiful scrawlings look like, umm, pitiful scrawlings.
Thanks! 你说中文吗？
是的，，我从小在新加坡所以它是我的第一语言。=] Oso,,buqeki. x3
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I have updated the link in the OP to point to v0.91, which has several small edits and adds a brief mention of the Jin-Mei in Chapter 3.
是的，，我从小在新加坡所以它是我的第一语言。=] Oso,,buqeki. x3
新加坡？从未去过，但我很想去！
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:eek:
Haven't read it yet, but with a quick skim my head exploded trying to comprehend the sheer awesomeness. :D
Not sure if it would help, but since I'm taking a break from playing EVE and concentrating a bit more on the lore side of things I would volunteer myself as an editor. Doubt I could be much help atm on how correct it is according to PF, but I could probably help find typos and such. If you're interested just send me a PM. :D
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我喜欢生活在那里，但很可惜，我不得不搬迁到英国工作就失去了占领。
一种让我生气，但有没有什么我能做的。但生活就是这样不是吗？这是一个很好的发言，我作为我的主要语言，，看到的人。。 。但我敢肯定，这里的人都摸不着头脑和运行翻译一切。x3
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顺便说一句，我在Facebook名称是Dos Tu Mai Kielle如果你是在那里。=3