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EVE-Online RP Discussion and Resources => EVE OOC Summit => Topic started by: Silas Vitalia on 15 Oct 2012, 14:15
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Post more than once, post whenever you have some fun combat stories. Good and bad, epic wins, tearful losses, leeroy jenkins accounts, etc.
Let's hear of glory and defeat!
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Most constantly enjoyable PVP: Small-gang fights, less than 10-15 on each side.
Least enjoyable PVP:
FLeet fights. FCing for hundreds of people and herding sheep. Taking an hour for people to get into the right ships, constantly keeping a lasso on large groups.
Excessive hotdrops. Dropping 50 or 60 ships on top of my 4 or 5 person roam is just annoying.
Some of fondest pvp memories:
The fights where you are barely hanging on, armor failing, structure failing, trying to squeeze out one more rep cycle (back when people armor repped). Outnumbered, outgunned, ship on flames with corp mates dying around you, yet somehow chasing off an attacking gang. Yelling in all caps in local mid battle: "MY TANK IS FIGHT!"
Hunting, being hunted, laying traps, falling into traps.
Winning fights when outnumbered and outgunned. NOTHING feels better.
Captaining an Alliance Tournament team, coming up with strategies and fits for the team. Winning all of our prelim rounds with I think a single loss almost flawlessly.
The first time I saw a Titan on field and it turned its guns on my carrier, and I survived.
One-shotting buzzing interceptor pilots while in a battleship. Flying around trying to tease my big slow guns and then when they forget about transversal... zap.
Some of my worst pvp memories:
Leeroying entire fleets to death, losing 50 or 60 ships to my own stupid FC decisions. Letting fleeties down with poor tactical decisions and watching us all die horribly.
Spending HOURS an entire afternoon trudging about a hundred pilots damn near 40 or 50 jumps to join an 'epic fight' about to happen, and watching to my horror as the FC placed us on field directly in path of incoming bombers. They killed literally like 50 ships in one salvo, ships and pods dying horribly. Hours of prep time, an hour of travel, dead in 15 seconds.
Getting my ass severely kicked in alliance tournament as soon as we got to the big boy large team televized rounds.
Chasing nano-gangs. Hate nano gangs. Pre-nano nerf this was just ridiculously frustrating.
Most Embarrassing Loss:
Thinking I was safe on a station undock with a battleship, and then getting bumped by a Macharial about 50km away from docking range, watching helplessly as I was summarily chewed to pieces.
Undocking in a shuttle to transport somewhere, being instalocked by some jerkface in a quicklock loki, and then being instapodded before I even knew what was happening. Embarrassing!
Trying to solo an Abaddon in a curse once, thinking I would be ace and safe with tracking disruptors and such. Abaddon was extra-tracking-fit and was boosted remotely. Shredded me in about 4 volleys. Pop!
Losing a fully rigged Damnation because I miscounted my security status and jumped into a .9 system trying to get to a Sansha live event.
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There was this one time where, at 4am after hours of not-so-fruitful roaming, I tackled a freighter on a gate in
lowsecthe one .5 system along our route. I even remember babbling something like "Point! Wow, I can't believe I got that- wait, are the gate guns supposed to hit this hard-"
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Jev that is hilarious ;)
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back when I was in Rote Kapelle on another character (Branson Reed, for those who don't know), we were living in some low-sec systems with a nullsec gateway. We went on a cruiser roam into that nullsec into the territory of our current biggest enemies. All you need to know about them was that they were a proper nullsec alliance of the time. Nothing like the goonswarms and the -A-'s of today, but they were big, immobile, and with big shit, and more importantly prone to getting angry at this corp sitting on their border claiming to be a caravan of freespacers, which meant they made good fights. Easy to antagonize.
We'd managed to push our way into their core systems, having made a few kills along the way, and fully expecting to die soon. That happened, and in style.
We had engaged some of them at a gate or planet or something, when suddenly the biggest ship I've ever seen lands on grid, and a bubble goes up. A Titan!
The FC starts telling us to get off the grid. Suddenly, my rupture isn't there anymore...
This was back in the days of AoE doomsdays.
So yes, I will always be proud of the day that I was in a gang of 10 or so cruisers with a couple of assorted BC's that got nuked off the grid by a bored titan pilot :D
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Two things show my best fight ever. One is a link, and the other is a picture.
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h333/Kalaratiri/20110727122934.jpg)
http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=10248297
The dualrep rifter is the most fun I have ever had in a frigate. It's is an incredibly intense experience, as you have so little buffer and rely so much on cap management.
That particular fight took place in Amamake top belt, and literal seconds after he popped a punisher landed. I got out by less than half a second :D
I have never had a bigger adrenaline rush from eve pvp, I was shaking so much I couldn't overheat my reppers properly and even turned them off once by accident. This was my first solo kill that I was actually proud of. Taking a fight in amamake is generally a bad idea, and the top belt is just silly, so it could so easily have gone differently.
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Nice picture :)
That's what can be great about EVE; I'm a firm believer that some of the best emergent content can be found at any level, any size fleet, any size ship.
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Undocking in a shuttle to transport somewhere, being instalocked by some jerkface in a quicklock loki, and then being instapodded before I even knew what was happening. Embarrassing!
Was it Lukka?
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Don't remember. Some facwar punk. Was too far away from friends to come back and teach 'em a lesson ;)
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http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=7831078
http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=7831080
Fukkin called it! Congrats Silas, you got noobganked by an EVE legend!
http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=9759522
http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=9759521
And so have I!
There is no lesson you can teach the great and powerful lukka. You may only learn the lesson of humility from him.
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http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=7831078
http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=7831080
Fukkin called it! Congrats Silas, you got noobganked by an EVE legend!
http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=9759522
http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=9759521
And so have I!
There is no lesson you can teach the great and powerful lukka. You may only learn the lesson of humility from him.
Great and powerful my butt :P I equate that kind of gameplay with something I'm not terribly interested in.
A kill is a kill though on some level, so hat's off to him if that's his thing :)
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Way back in the day, before I even joined BoB, I was in the Great Wildlands with a dual MWD Rifter.
There was a small gate camp consisting of cruisers on a pipeline gate that I was harassing. I would bump into one of them and fly around them at 33km/s just to be a pest. They tried getting me numerous times, but I was simply uncatchable.
There was a station in system that I docked to do something IRL in. When I undocked, one of the campers was sitting there in a smart bomb battleship. I was killed and podded at the undock before I knew what had happened. This was back when you could still smartbomb on structures.
I felt so cheated and outraged, I got into my only battleship that was close by ( a scorpion), threw guns and jammers on it, and went flying solo back into the Great Wildlands. Along the way I picked up two bros or so, one in a frigate and the other in a cruiser I think. I didn't really care, I was in highlander mode.
So I go back to the system I died in, and the battleship pilot + his cohorts were still there. Somehow we got an engagement on the station 30km off it or so, his cruiser+frigate buddies and his one battleship against my group. I told my bros to kill his support, and I would deal with him (the battleship). I quickly learned I couldn't jam his tempest because I didn't have enough points, so I jammed his entire support fleet and went toe to toe with his tempest.
It literally came down to my scorpion vs his tempest in a straight up brawl match. I don't know how, but I killed his tempest with 30% structure remaining on my scorpion. I had to warp out before his automated heavy drones killed me.
I was so pumped from that kill it remains one of my favorite fights in EVE, some 8 or 9~ years later. I still got that tempest pilot's name in my address book. :D
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Fantastic story ;)
K. brought up a good point though with the adrenaline comment,
this is still the ONLY pvp pc game that has gotten me visibly shaken, heart-pounding, OH SHIT sorts of moments. I don't have as much of that these days but when you do, there's no other pvp game out there that comes close.
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PVP doesn't excite me anymore. In the early days of Eve, when 1v1 engagements and small gang was the norm, I had fun.
I had the most fun back when new, MORE POWERFUL ship classes were coming out, allowing me a cutting edge that enabled engaging even unfair odds. Nowadays, every new release seems to be targeted at a lowest common denominator, and every ship can be countered with a bigger number of ships.
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Most recent one that comes to mind. (http://anshar.arcadianewsnetwork.net/killboard/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=1408) I've probably had more satisfying engagements, but it's late, and this one provokes particularly fond memories.
Long roam trying out the new inty-frigates from Placid that ended in Serpentis Prime. Folks were taking a bio:
[ 2012.08.10 22:06:54 ] KrigHa Jin > Hey role players
[ 2012.08.10 22:06:58 ] KrigHa Jin > that sooooo gay
[ 2012.08.10 22:07:00 ] KrigHa Jin > undock
[ 2012.08.10 22:07:01 ] KrigHa Jin > time to die
[ 2012.08.10 22:07:07 ] KrigHa Jin > you can even act out your own death
-Condensed, similar chatter from the rest of them for the length of our 10 minute break-
-Engaged with Hurricane, Vagabond, 2x Cynabal
-Result: One Dead Hurricane, one nearly-dead Cynabal, complete failure to kill any T1 frigates
-Bonus: Failure to pop anything on the undock with a badly fit Eagle shortly afterwards.
-Bonus: Total local silence from them for the next 5 minutes while we bounced safes planning our route home.
It wasn't a particularly amazing kill, but the fact the whole of local went from terrible smacktards to utter silence in the space of 20 seconds was pretty hilarious.
EDIT: Should also note these guys had us scouted at least 20 minutes before we hit the system, as we engaged a Daredevil who was later confirmed as a blue. In addition to this, they had a Dramiel trailing us all the way from Syndicate trying (and failing) to pick off stragglers every couple of jumps.
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We need an EVE Arena, in game.
Some place in highsec we can watch teams duke it out. 2v2s, 3v3s, 5v5s. Limits on ship classes and fittings, etc. Leagues. Sponsors. Cash prizes. Treachery. Gambling. Throwing matches.
Glory.
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Milo,
Shutting people up in local is also a wonderful, wonderful thing.
All I can say about that fight is
(http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/28416222.jpg)
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As Zag, the most fun I had was doing Commerce Raiding in enemy high-sec as part of FacWar. Using destroyers we'd roam seeking to hit soft targets of the STPRO/24IC usually when nothing much was going on on the front. The fun came from the fact that you only had a 30 second window to remain on grid and complete a kill so you always had to stay on your toes and have to roll your points with bounce-outs if you had a wingman.
It was also hilarious disabusing opposing militia of their concepts of safety in high-sec with a, "Greetings from the Federation, mon ami." Or watching their militia chat light up after buzzing Nourv, Jita, Amarr or Huola and a target's butthurt that no one helped them after a successful gank on their barges and industrials. The only hate-mail I ever got on Zag was a STPRO telling me he hoped I got cancer after I destroyed his afk Bustard in Nonni, which brought a smile to my face. We would also keep track of targets we killed and see if they dropped out of militia and provide a payout if they did - I think we had about a 50% success rate.
The most memorable raid I did was a push into Amarr from Jita for targets of opportunity around Ashab, Penirgman, Tash-Murkon and the pipe into Huola to which the 24IC responded with seboed Lachesis, Huginn and inties and I had to try and break us all out in dessies with angry Amarrians on our tail. We managed to escape and evade around them eventually through Penirgman and back into the Amarr-Jita pipe but had Merdaneth in a Crusader one jump behind to which (I think, it was a few years back) he called us Minmatar heathens and the like to which Zag corrected that we were in fact, Federal heathens and then provided a flippant goodbye.
Comparatively to all the other engagements I've had, the high-sec raids probably didn't do much ISK-wise or were even that "uber-leet" (I am after all a militia scrub and so lack the mad pvp skills of others outside frig/dessie solo and small gang work) but I remember them because in all honesty I remember more the actual hunting down and trying to position oneself into getting a fight through d-scanning, baiting, and the use of safespots etc., than the actual fights themselves. I feel more emotion and anticipation prior to an engagement than during it, the actual combat is very mechanical for me since I tend to break down and visualize what I'm going to do before I push F1 to the point it feels like I'm on autopilot and just following things through via my overview.
My most hilarious loss though?
This (http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=14796506)
It's what happens when you're drunk and forget you have a negative sec status. :lol:
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Most memorable good fight: In the early days of FW (talking the first months here) there was a mini pilot known for his insane skills with his thrasher. He had a, for the time, very solid fit and I made it my mission to hunt him down and take him out.
I lost a couple of punishers to him until I finally gave in and brake out the vengeance. The fight went well until he somehow got into optimal and our respective armor tanks started melting. I was so busy spamming the warp out button to save my pod that I didn't realise I'd won until I started wondering why the hell my pod looked so weird and was on fire. :lol:
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Udyr Vulpayne and me went on a cruiser roam across Bleak Lands to harass U'K newbies in Arbitrators.
He did it a lot, sometimes I came along, sometimes I was in a Curse, sometimes in a Whateveryoucallit, T2 Maller.
U'K newbie corp was located there, so we went looking for fights and usually we got them.
This time we got 'lucky'.
We came to a station and there was a mission Tempest heading to dock (back in the day there was no warp to 0 and this guy apparently hadn't made bookmarks for instadock) one of us had a web and the other one had a warp scrambler on top of some TDs, we got him webbed and scrammied and started to chew away on him. Then a Typhoon and a Rupture warps in. We keep the Tempest immobile while we take down the Ruppie, we start chewing through the Typhoon when I have to warp out to rep. (I had the scram.) Came back, Udyr had to head out. When he came back, the Typhoon was almost down and the Tempest was almost at docking range. We then concentrated on the 'phoon and popped him as well.
The Tempest got away.
Our trip home was pretty much high fives over the internet and giggles.
Similar situations with mission ships happened every now and then, most of the time the battleships died against the Arbitrators. Gaven popped a Tempest solo earlier that week.
Omnicient Order was hired to come after PIE (I think it was the first time they were hired to do that.)
Emperor station, smacktalk on local.
Undock in a Geddon,
Pop the flavor of the month Domi in 30 secs.
Warp to a safe.
Gaven comes into the system with another Geddon.
Mega and a Tempest are sitting at the tube.
We warp in.
I'm primary.
We pop the Tempest.
We start chewing through the Mega.
Running out of armor.
The Mega pops, 17% structure left.
Just state, 'Amarr Victor.' on local.
Dock.
In the beginning PvP was AWESOME, adrenaline, camaraderie, tactics, actual enemy that wanted to fight.
Then it all watered down.
You needed to have a fleet of hostiles on your tail in your P.O.S. ship to get anything happening to your pulse.
The camaraderie was there, but who the fuck bothers to go on a roam when everyone is just tube tanking.
Tactics we're pretty much about getting a good fleet composition, good scouts, right engagement distance and just getting the right Primary.
Enemies also kind of vanished after time, some for having different priorities, some for getting their arses kicked, some for us not engaging them.
The problem with EVE is that you really can't force an encounter with someone that knows even a little bit what they are doing.
Or who docks.
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I believe there was a tread similar to this one made some time ago, but I'm not sure and I'm not going to go check.
Regardless, though I might have done so already, I'll share two events that happened a long while ago.
Back in the days when the Caldari were poised to annex all of Placid and the Federal sector of the Fed-State FW area, there was a memorable engagement in Brarel, IIRC. I had just left one corp and was to join another, but while this period was active I was out roaming in my Myrmidon. A Federal FW group were waiting by a planet for reinforcements to take a large complex that the Caldari were currently hiding in, capping it down ever so slowly. Being somewhat known the FC gets me into fleet, despite my position in Aliastra at the time, and inform me of this.
Now, at this point in time I had seen this situation happen far to many times - the Feds are outnumbered and outgunned, the Caldari utilize their numerical superiority to the max - wanted to take the region, after all - and the Feds, like I say, await backup. Waiting would lose us the complex and the Caldari would disperse and go take other areas while we form up.
I was tired of seeing this and fed-up with the progress the Caldari made thanks solely due to a willingness to do 'the hard work' and the waning morale of my own faction, so I told the FC I was going in, that was that. Warping to the complex gate, the gang followed, though outnumbered.
So we go in and engage the first gang inside the complex, a number of cruisers, destroyers and frigates, backed by a Falcon. I think we lost one or two of the destroyers on our side but killed the cruisers, the Falcon and some of the destroyers and frigs, though IIRC most of them left and prepared to return.
Somewhat amazed we had won the fight and killed a Falcon (that got the Fed-aligned destroyer pilots a serious morale boost) we secure the complex and loot the wrecks. Some time later the Caldari response makes itself known.
As taking the complex was the main objective, we end up leaving a destroyer or two in the complex to tick it down and kill anyone who enter, while the rest of us go to attack the Caldari on the acceleration gate, before they can all gather up and overwhelm us. The 22th Black Rise Defense Unit was the primary force here and was known to be able to re-ship fast, we expected to get killed, but hoped we could keep them off the complex long enough to take it.
What followed now was nothing short of the most amazing fight I've had in my life. We engage the cruisers, destroyers and frigates stationed on the complex gate, and in a short while we lose a pair of destroyers but kill pretty much all of the amassed ships present. While we are shooting the last two ships left, the second wave of Caldari reinforcements arrive. I'm not completely sure but I believe it was during this wave that the last of my companions were killed - the complex had been saved by now and the one's in it had either joined the fight and died by now, or left, I'm not sure about it.
Yuri Intaki, Damar's alt and a member of the ILF at the time (trying and failing to get the Fed-militia in a war with the ILF) lost his second ship in this wave, IIRC, making the fight even more awesome to me. I expected to die from the very start so finding myself alone against several Caldari wasn't news, the fact we took the complex and had killed Yuri twice by now, was.
Dual-rep myrms however are hardy buggers, and I survived until the end of the third wave of Caldari reinforcements were broken. There was not much time to loot and I was nearly out of cap-charges, and the Caldari started to arrive in battlecrusiers - a Harbinger had already landed on the filed and there was a Drake on scanner, IIRC. Having killed the last cruiser I decided it was time to make good my escape.
I achieved my objective, killed loads of enemies, and got my sorry ass home in one piece. All of these were rare events at the time, so I'm not likely to forget this any time soon.
Did some digging on battleclinic - Allied/hostile casualties for the entire event; At least 3 destroyers and 3 frigates, BC is being difficult to read VS 5 frigates(1 being rookie ship) 3 destroyers, 8 cruisers, 1 recon ship - Those were the ones I was involved in, at the least, might have been more.
And now for something completely different...
I take great care to learn what I can from my own losses and victories, losses especially as they are the most likely to have been my fault. This one especially, was my fault, and while not much of a lesson, it's a great reminder, and a mistake I'll never repeat.
http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=9167273 (http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=9167273)
So basically, I was moving a ship from Villore to Heyd, going through OMS. I had scouted the area previously but did not have active eyes in system. I jump in and... I honestly have no idea what I was doing or how I let it happen - could have gone straight to the Heyd gate and jumped, likely getting backup in heyd, or whatever.
Somehow, I found myself bumped off gate by an Executioner, and then the Pervs gang landed on me. I ended up, shortly and simply, losing the myrm without getting off a shot in return. I remember I activated my repper, tried to move for the gate, and that it took them what seemed like ages to down me.
Why the hell didn't I shoot back? There were 5 cruisers, 1 of them faction, there were 3 frigates, 2 of them were T2. I could easily have killed two of the frigates and two of the cruisers - they were actively bumping me or sticking into my optimal range. The Kitsune didn't do squat, I had my ECCM II online the whole time and he didn't get a single sycle in.
In hind-sight, I could easily have won the fight - kill the bumping Executioner, then the Stabber that arrived first and bumped me as well, then the Assault Frigate, then the Rupture holding at 10km, and with that loads of their DPS would be down the drain, who knows what I could have done after that? Perhaps killed the Caracals - they were armed with light missiles after all...
But I didn't, and my most embarrassing loss to date, I can't even properly explain. I have no idea what I was thinking, if I was at all. All I can say is, people, never do this, never EVER.
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That sounds like a great FW fight, Bloodbird!
I don't see nearly enough Myrm's out there and I love it when I do ;)
There's something about repair cylces that make things so tense, as opposed to just bleeding plated HP where you can see just when you are going to die. With the reppers at least sometimes you have the illusion you are going to make it ;)
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Most of my losses are unfortunately pretty trite (blobs, or just usual losses...). In my early days though, I almost lost a typhoon to a macro farmer in a raven, when we lived in Providence. I remember shouting "YESSS GOTCHA !" after trying to catch him for days. Then I saw my armor melting and managed to warp out in emergency. Then I noticed I had forgotten to change my pve EM/Therm hardeners to an omnitank.
I have probably had a lot of good fights I don't remember at the moment. However two of them, not extremely old, are memorable for me.
The first one was recently, not long before quitting. I was running a mission for the gallente epic arc in lowsec in my vengeance. The kind of sadistic mission where you have 15 cruisers and maybe 10-15 frigates as NPCs shooting at you, and 4 cruisers neuting all your cap in 10 sec.
After a -long- time spent grinding them ship by ship, I was in the process of finishing the last one, when I noticed that too many orange hit notifications were still showing, and they were weird. I took another look at them while blowing up the last NPC and suddenly realized that I was pointed by a pirate crow that was unable to kill me, even with the NPCs to help him. I thought "meh, that fight is never going to end, until one of us brings his friends first", since I was AB fitted, and him doing maybe 1/5th of the required dps to break my tank.
I wrote on the OOC channel - quite blasé - that I was pointed by an annoying crow in a FW gallente system. Zag responded and told me to wait like 12 jumps to come and help me (yes, that fight took a little long, I am pretty sure the crow was short on ammo at the end...).
Finally, I see what was expected : a probably hostile thorax enter the mission site and runs to catch me. With my AB I can obviously not stay away very long and start to overload it a little when I am almost at range for him, taking the time to kill his drones, then I fly back to him as fast as I can and get hit a little hard from the first blaster salvos. Then I orbited it, even scramed and webbed, and tanked his electrons blasters for a while before gnawing at his armor over time, still taking also damage from the crow. I was pretty sure to die and yet, that went surprinsigly smooth (http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=17061606) (<- you will note that amazing, ironic nickname of that guy).
Zag came at the end and jammed the crow, which let me go away. I think what made that fight quite enjoyable for me was the emotive balance I went through : resolved to die in the first place when i was not even here for pvp in the first place, then annoyed to hell because that fight was seriously neverending, then sure to die again when I saw the thorax coming in, then excited to kill him. Somehow, fun pvp never comes at you when you look for it, it comes at you when you expect it the less.
The second one was probably the most epic fight I ever got in my eve life, near the end of KotMC. A fleet of approximately 15-20 pirate BSes came in kourmonen/huola and started to piss off the militia, and then got kicked in the ass pretty quick since their shiny BSes apparently had the power to draw a lot of attention (yeah, a lot of vindis, machs, etc). They decided to come back to take their revenge, with more or less the same comp except they had 3 triaged carriers on field to support them.
To their credit their BS fleet was strong and the militia BS fleet that came, a little disorganised, even if superior in numbers, under estimated the repping power of those carriers and the overall support between each of their ships. The militia started to lose ship after ship, and wrecks got all over the gate, and yet militia pilots continued to reship and come back to the fight to win through attrition, though it soon became obvious that they were not breaking and that the attrition was badly going in their favor since more and more militia pilots eventually had no BSes or BCs left to reship (and i'm not even speaking of the isk war...).
With Eran we were speaking about either doing something radical to turn the tide, or just let the militia give up bitterly, which was only a question of time after 30 min of continuous slaughter. He suddenly decided to field his revelation, and I told him "you know the odds are that you will probably dock in pod after that : either you get hotdropped, either we can't kill them and you will be left alone to their mercy when our fleets will break down". He told me "yeah, but I don't care and I plan to remain sufficiently at range to encourage their BSes to get out of their carriers repping range". I answered "okay, it's a good day to die and use that dread for once."
So we undocked with our two dreads, knowing that probably half of the militia fleet was still fighting while the other half was definitly out, and I was trembling like never before, and yet I found funny to notice that all of this seemed so unreal that I was like in another state of mind already (like what you always seek when pvping and rarely achieve to do : counting your ship already as lost). I am not that rich and a dread was quite the investment though.
Anyway, we warped at 70km of the gate and started to go into siege mode to shoot at the carriers. After a while their BSes started to all target me and all those yellow/red boxes suddenly flashing were fucking scary, knowing I was pinned down looking at them while the siege module was running. When you see that happening, you suddenly feel quite alone. So, all these BSes started to activate their MWD and came in, and we were on comms like "omg omg omg".
But the plan worked. They started to get hits from the last members of the militia fleets that was still here and that we were here to support, and noticing that they were not in their carriers range anymore they prefered to step back and return to the gate. End of the first adrenaline rush, but the pressure was still there, and still no hotdrop.
Eventually their carriers started to break apart. After the first one finally got down I noticed that my guns were not firing anymore since I overloaded them at the beginning and forgot to deactivate it (and found out that it costed me around 120M for the two citadel launchers alone to repair afterwise...). So I docked the dread and came to finish in my carrier.
The feeling after that, like being a turning point of the fight yourself, was quite gratifying. Surviving was the icing on the cake.
http://www.amarr-empire.net/killboard/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=220533 (http://www.amarr-empire.net/killboard/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=220533)
http://www.amarr-empire.net/killboard/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=220579 (http://www.amarr-empire.net/killboard/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=220579) (other carriers showed up at the end to leach the kill)
edit : yes, im pretty sure to have already posted that somewhere in the past now you mention it...
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I have literally dozens of cool PvP stories. A lot of them involve unlikely odds. My personal preference is to have my opponents go 'wft, what just happened?' as I beat them. That is why I prefer unconvential fits combined with smart tactics.
The 7 vs 1
Oooh, the heady days before the MWD nerf, when webifiers were still at 90% strength and scramblers didn't shut off MWD's. I really was an odd one out in that day with an active armor tanking AB/Web Sader vs. the mostly nano-fitted frigate crowd. I was defending this medium plex in Lamaa when local grew and a relief force led by Sasawong was poised to take over my plex. A punisher activated gate slightly before his friends, perhaps overconfidently, and I was waiting for it at the other end. Horribly fitted, it went down as the others came in as a group. Burning away from entrance, I let the hostiles chase me, their MWD's blowing up their sigs and allow for my shots to connect as they passed me while their initial shots missed (the Sader had a sig bonus even without MWD at the time). Then I simply webbed down their ships and shot them one by one while I was tanking like mad. Then my cap didn't allow for running my repper anymore, and thus the final two ships killed me, I left their last Stiletto heavily damaged. Quickly reshipped myself in-system and returned to loot the field. The two remaining pilots bugged out fast when they saw me come back in a Malediction.
http://www.amarr-empire.net/killboard/?a=kill_related&kll_id=252319
Containing a Taranis Outbreak
At the start of Faction Warfare, Outbreak based out of Kamela. And they provided me with hordes of Taranises. By then I knew how to fight these monsters in my Crusader (by losing lots of Saders to UK, EM and Maak Ranises) and Outbreak pilots proved particularly willing to play. Again and again. Much fun was had.
http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=2469982
http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=2471305
Star Fraction scouts
Back in the day, my Crusader ruled the Faction Warfare skies. This was before the faction frigate buff, and nearly all small ships fell before it. Star Fraction, due to the IGS shenanigans, were favored targets of course. Often I simply blasted their scouts and tacklers out from under their fleets, sometimes with other fleet members watching on helplessly. But the following fight stands out in my mind, simply as a demonstration of the power of aggression:
http://www.jericho-fraction.net/sf/killboard/?a=kill_related&kll_id=12669
I warped in on two of them at a gate, some 15km apart. I simply locked and opened fire as soon as I dropped out of warp. I won because it took them several seconds to respond. They didn't expect me to engage at 2vs1 odds, and a voice communication between fellow pilots tend to delay response a bit as well. And of course, they were fitting scorch while I am loaded with multifrequency for max close up damage. Also, in more vs. 1 situations, the hostile invariably go in as close as possible to 'prevent you from escaping' or something like that. Hah!
Rejecting Hell's Crows
So, there I was experimenting with active shield tanked battle Anathema's (only allowed to fly Amarr due to being in PIE). Yeah, before the times of the ancillary booster. There was this group of FW pirates about looking for a fight, 4 Crows and one Incursus. They quickly took the bait and engaged me at point blank (yeah, another case of kill-eagerness), I quickly killed one of their Crows, and damaged a second before they wisely pulled range on my and killed me from afar. Was fun though.
http://www.pieinc.co.uk/community/eve/killboard/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=19837
I reshipped to my fav Crusader quickly warped back to the scene, killed two more Crows before the others took the wiser choice and high-tailed it out of there, never to return.
http://www.pieinc.co.uk/community/eve/killboard/?a=kill_related&kll_id=19835
The Sabre Days
When joining CVA and moving to Providence the joy of my day was always when I heard intel reports of a solo Sabre roaming about. Sabres and myself were an instant love-match. They wanted me, I wanted them. Warp to 0 and open fire. I've not had a Sabre yet that didn't return fire. But one day there was this guy that was reported but cloaked up. I was warping back and forth trying to look stupid and hoping that friendly pilots would move away far enough for him not to fear incoming support. Finally he uncloaked and warped to me (at the gate) at 0km and engaged. I employ my standard tactic, knowing that the increased locking time would put him at a further disadvantage. As his shields melted, panic likely struck, and his Falcon alt (I was aware this Falcon was around) uncloaked and attempted a jam. But his Sabre was already down by the time his lock finished. If he had uncloaked his alt immediately after landing a point, this wouldn't have happened, but I guess even those with Falcon alts are eager to for 'solo' kills.
http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=11669746
http://eve-kill.net/?a=pilot_detail&plt_id=21653&m=11&y=2011&view=kills&scl_id=&scl_id=23
http://eve-kill.net/?a=pilot_detail&plt_id=21653&m=12&y=2011&view=kills&scl_id=23
(unfortunately, eve-kill doesn't have my API, so missing quite a lot of Sabre kills there)
On being a nemesis
Long time ago PIE, in the prelude to FW, battled a pirate corp in the Bleak Lands called the Deathadders. Not being a particularly skilled bunch, then nonetheless claimed several systems and fought over them. In one particular battle they had gathered an extensive fleet and even shot down Laerise. I judged the distances, and warped in on a loot can ending up right in the middle of their fleet and beside a rookie pilot called Morel Nova. I quickly destroyed him while evading and escaping from the other ships in their fleet.
http://www.pieinc.co.uk/community/eve/killboard/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=159
Years later I encoutered him again. I didn't remember him, but I found it odd that he especially seemed to seek me out. We fought and he died again, this time in a Taranis.
http://www.pieinc.co.uk/community/eve/killboard/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=30363
No less then a month later, he tried again and succeeded:
http://www.pieinc.co.uk/community/eve/killboard/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=33083
He convoed me, and confided in me that watching me that very first fight was his first PvP loss, and it had inspired him to seriously try to get good at PvP, and at some point in the future return the favor by trying to destroy me. It was quite humbling to hear of course. I sometimes heard of him again PvP-ing a lot indeed, even risking and losing hit Utu.
http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=10887725
Happy to have been an inspiration to a player that flies taking risks and flies well.
CVA Cruiser Tourney
When EQ announced the CVA cruiser tourney I was of course eager to participate, knowing that my odd shield Arbi was far superior to any other cruiser about, and ideally suited for tourney battles. About 30 people joined in and a bit of smart maneuvering at the start of the battle made that I wasn't immediately set upon by a blob of hostiles. The shield Arbi performed to spec (some people here are aware how nasty that Arbi can be in a tourney enviroment) and in a long fight I managed to kill all opposition. EQ promised rewards for things like last one standing, most damage dealt, being on most killmails, having most final blows. But I'm still waiting on the reward even though I topped all those categories....
More stories to come if people like to hear em. Still remember lots and lots of nice fights, browsing to old killboard brings back most of them.
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Man, I was just browsing all my old kills and losses and am I the only one that seems to get hit by a wave of nostalgia looking at a killmail and then getting a flash of memory of the fight all over again?
It makes me feel so bloody old.
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This could be an eternal thread...
I have two 'fondest' PvP memories. The first was when I was a little nublet, earning my ISK by running courier contracts in a Bestower, just around the time BoB was Hargothed. Our alliance back then took advantage of the power vacuum in Delve and started reinforcing POSes - one night they ran out of ammo and I did a resupply run for them (ah, to be young and worriless again!). And since I was there, and had a cannon on my Bestower, I shot one of the POSes a bit as well - my first KM.
The first 'real' fight I remember fondly was in a wormhole, when our friend Heloisa got jumped - a baptism by fire, in a way (and that should give you enough clues to find the full narrative).
But recently it has been rather meh - since I challenged myself to find some solo fights, my days have been mostly a tale of empty systems. However, one of the few fights was memorable because in hindsight I stepped into an obvious trap. I was somewhere in the Outer Ring, nosing around a station system, and watching out for a Hound in the system - but to no avail: the hound pilot leaves. A few minutes later a Maelstrom undocks from the station, and just sits on the undock. And just sits there. Seeing that I hadn't had seen a ship sitting still for days, I engaged, and even made some progress against the ship, focusing just on optimals and orbits and the like.
And then the Hound uncloaked nearby and bombed me into oblivion :)
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My worst moment... well one of them.
Rote Kapelle was on a road trip down to Provi just as CVA was imploding against a resurgent U'K (with backing of -A-). Rote was there to enjoy the havoc. At any rate, rote had just finished up the first of a few entertainment wars we had launched during our bike ride, and I was cruising around in a Taranis in the lowsec around Misha. I found plenty of targets but nothing I could legitimately engage myself. I jump into a system and watch a prior war-target Hulk lazily spin towards a belt and warp off. Ah-HA!
I warp after it and the battle is on! Then CONCORD came and gently reminded me that 0.5 is indeed highsec. :bash:
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Probably about 3-4 months before Dominion, I had one of my best fights I have ever had.
We were taking a mixed Proviblob roam out into Catch - RR BS with cruiser support, CVA and Holder allies. We jump in to HED and start skirmishing a bit, catching the unwary pilot or two...
Suddenly this -A- Vagabond shows up and starts kiting us like a pro, making multiple 'dives' in towards us but staying just out of web range. The FC, a veteran Provi PvPer, recognizes an attempt to get us off gate, but some of the guys go chasing after him before the FC yanks us back towards the gate.
Without warning, an Avatar lands 100km off us. Damn, damn, damn, damn! FC is screaming for us to get back to gate; some of us only get within jump range as the DD animation begins to play, but before the damage comes in.
We jump back into SV5; FC immediately calls us back to the HED gate. We wait 20 seconds, then jump back in. Seconds later, a kitchen sink -A- fleet drops in directly on top of us. In retrospect, they obviously expected us to all have chased the Vaga and be badly damaged if not outright destroyed by the DD trap, so they didn't form up a real solid fleet. Instead, the DD had only caught a of frigates and one fast cruiser that had been drawn farthest off the gate. We slaughtered them, had a good laugh and hung around on gate for 15-20 minutes more, then waddled off back to Provi space before a competent response showed up.
Worst, conversely...
The fight in Huola in which Minmatar dropped their first Nyx for their first time. I leeroyed multiple heavy ships from my personal stock as the FC kept calling for more and more ships to hopefully win the day and save several friendly capitals. We didn't.
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My most pleasurable fight was a 1v1, with me in a Crucifier and the target in a Tristan. He was rail/MWD kite fit, and I was in a slower AB/TD fit. The fight lasted for eight to ten full minutes. That's 8-10 minutes of adrenaline, high heartbeat rate, and shaky hands. In the end neither one of us were hitting each other, so it literally boiled down to who could kill the other guy's single drone first. In the end he got smart and I suppose loaded a longrange, low damage ammo that even my TD couldn't really counter. I capped out and it was a rather slow death, but all the while he was in half armor. So close!
The lossmail (http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=12821586)
Overall, my best PvP moments are in 1v1s.
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I also agree with Silas on the whole armor repper thing. I've become a hug fan of active armor tanks on Shiroh; with good cap micromanagement you can get a MEAN ship out of dualrep setups.
Yaay armor \o/
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I haven't really been using active tanks for a long time. Either you can out-rep it and last for an extremely long time, or you are taking too much damage over your rep amount and die instantly.
Buffers at least seem to be a known quantity and I can better time how long I have to survive / shoot people before de-aggressing or taking other actions...
Great stories everyone!!
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I haven't really been using active tanks for a long time. Either you can out-rep it and last for an extremely long time, or you are taking too much damage over your rep amount and die instantly.
Actually, you can extend a tank that hasn't enough oopmh to counter a hostile's full dps by decreasing the hostile's dps. You can do that by mucking up his tracking, staying outside of his optimal, or even use ECM. This is why my Crusader tends to beat the non-active-tanked Taranises. You can always choose to a tactic (tracking or range) that reduces his (and your own) dps, which gives your active tank time to act while you whittle down his static EHP.
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I haven't really been using active tanks for a long time. Either you can out-rep it and last for an extremely long time, or you are taking too much damage over your rep amount and die instantly.
Actually, you can extend a tank that hasn't enough oopmh to counter a hostile's full dps by decreasing the hostile's dps. You can do that by mucking up his tracking, staying outside of his optimal, or even use ECM. This is why my Crusader tends to beat the non-active-tanked Taranises. You can always choose to a tactic (tracking or range) that reduces his (and your own) dps, which gives your active tank time to act while you whittle down his static EHP.
Quite correct as usual Merd. I was probably thinking more about 'multiple target' senarios where you have groups of people shooting at you simultaneously. Dogfights are an entirely different animal for experts like you :P
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So back in 2008 when Mixed Metaphor was at its peak, we had a war with Trinity Nova alliance, who were professional mercenaries hired against us by a person (who shall remain nameless) distinctly unhappy about our excellent performance in factional warfare. Despite being outnumbered three-to-one, we quite definitively returned them to sender. This isn't what the story's about, however. Perhaps thinking that our will to fight might have been dampened or our resources stretched by that war, an opportunistic group with a small name but a big ego, NQX Innovations, demanded five hundred million ISK from our corporation, unless we wanted to find ourselves in another war. Still riding high from our recent victory against TNT, we told them we'd deliver their ransom a bullet at a time.
Initial exchange of gunfire in the war went well, with a few frigates falling under our guns. It was, I believe, the third day of the war when Faust and Vince called me up and told me that there was, quote, "a Hyperion parked outside top station in Villore waving his dick around." I immediately brought my Maelstrom, Faust his Myrmidon and Vince, who is the most important character in this story, his Blackbird.
We initially thought the NQX Hyperion was playing bait for a trap, but we'd learnt from previous wars to keep tight intel, and after seeing that only two other members were online and they were both two regions away, we realised this guy was just spoiling for a fight. We kept Vince out of the way because we knew he wouldn't engage us if he saw ECM on the field.
Faust and I opened up on the Hyperion and he immediately returned fire, but either Faust and I were very well-tanked or he wasn't very good at fitting Hyperions, because he quickly realised that his tank was breaking while ours weren't going to go anywhere. He stopped firing, and we realised with some disappointment that he was going to redock before we could get through his armour.
At this point, I heard (on Vent) and saw (in local) a scream of "JIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAD!" and a grey blur on my screen. Vince had warped in on us and intentionally MWD-rammed the Hyperion, intentionally not engaging his jammers. The Hyperion opened up with all guns on Vince's ship, which, possessing no tank, crumpled like paper. But it was a fatal mistake - killing Vince's ship while still maintaining his tank had used up all his cap boosters, and his hardeners went offline. In short order there were two wrecks sitting outside the station - that of a Hyperion, and that of a Blackbird willingly sacrificed to secure the death of the former.
This, more than anything, is why I was so sad to see Vince leave my corporation.
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Best: Winning some fights
Worst: Losing some fights
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Best: Fighting outnumbered and successfully splitting a gang and killing some or all of them. Little better rush than knowing you have literally a few seconds to do what you have to do before the rest land or you have to bounce. Sometimes works, sometimes dosent.
Worst: Doing the above poorly. Always makes me sigh and wrack my brain about what I did wrong.
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Best: Scaring away a group of Curses with my pod. True story; they thought I was a scout for a larger force. Of course I wasn't, but I wasn't about to tell them that!
Worst: Countless PvP roams that ended with no fight to be had. I'm like PvP repellent. If I'm in a fleet, no fights happen. :ugh:
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I Just heard one of my all-time favorites over TS this weekend with an alliance-mate.
Long story short he accidentally afk autopiloted a freighter into a lowsec gate camp. Tons of wrecks on the gate, tons of blinky reds, naked freighter on top of them.
The pirates had been camping this gate for a long time and had assumed their time was up and any bait coming through would be to establish aggro for a massive drop/counter/whatever.
My friend's freighter materializes in the middle of the gate camp and one of the pirates in local yells "Holy Freighter Bait!"
They took a few shots and then all ceased fire.
They thought he was bait for counterattack.
So he's sitting on gate with a ton of reds, mexican standoff style, no one shooting at the freighter, but my friend is scared to so much as blink and try to run lest they figure out he's just screwed up.
His entire shields regen as they all stare at each other.
A good 15 minutes later he sees an opening and aligns to station just before a HAC gains a warp jam. Makes it to station, picks up his PI cargo, and warps right past them to jump to highsec.
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Best: "GodDamnitDave, I've got a meeting in forty-five minutes and you want to do a -- just kill ONE ship? FINE!" I think I helped kill four or five on the way back to base. Honestly, I lost count.
Worst: "Hey, guys, what's a Nighthawk?" Yeah, I was very new to fleet fighting. Probably shouldn't have been a scout (though if memory serves, I was the only one in that fleet that didn't get podded, and after an hour of chatting with the ebil pirates, they gave me an escort home).
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Gods, yes. Roaming and hunting are fine things, really, but sometimes the one-minute kills are a nice treat. I remember one time when I was on fire and had three killmails together with Milo in less than three minutes after logging in. Good fight, too, Incursus duo vs. Claw and Comet.
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Most of the time I fail horribly and end in a big ball of fire, but still sometimes I do very very unforgivable mistakes, against which I try to fight as hard as I can. I consider them as my worst PvP experiences. Here are some of them:
1. I died to CONCORD in highsec, because I messed repair drones with combat drones. Well, I guess many did this thing... but I did it TWICE in a row (well, I was dualboxing, and I really suck at dualboxing)
2. Flying drunk. Lost a couple of HACs and a pod by continuously derping into enemy fleet alone.
3. Most often annoying thing: failing to understand FC orders and derping :( Missed dread jump once and left it in some forgotten system for almost a month.
4. Messing with hotkeys: suddenly warp my nanohac right on a gate with enemy fleet instead of aligning.
5. Over-overloading. Im afraid I can't give exact situation that I remember, but quite a number of my ships died because modules (mostly guns and point/mwd) went offline.
Best experiences:
Killing dessies and cruisers with a badger.
Killing rigged mega with like ~50 t1 cheap fitted caracals in enemy highsec back when facwars only started. Well, and such highsec runs were quite fun thing.
I really loved Andraz as FC, there were crazy roams when we attacked almost anything disregarding everything.
And I love my CEO as FC, because of very clear orders (understandable even by me!) and military-like discipline.
Also there was a fun moment, when I reapproached a gate in a veng and jumped, being scrammed, webbed and attacked by t3 and a couple of bcs.
And, of course, when enemy falcon saved my harby in like 10% structure!
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I've just remembered one of the last truly exciting fights I had before I quit.
Shortly after the release of the Ancillary shield booster, I had quite a lot of fun fitting them on battlecruisers. Most successfully, the hurricane, ferox and brutix. On this particular occasion, I had decided to take a brutix out on a solo roam through the great wildlands and curse, and into providence. The fit was thus:
[Brutix, xlasb]
Pseudoelectron Containment Field I
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Tracking Enhancer II
Tracking Enhancer II
Experimental 10MN Microwarpdrive I
Large F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction
Warp Scrambler II
X-Large Ancillary Shield Booster, Navy Cap Booster 400
Heavy Electron Blaster II, Void M
Heavy Electron Blaster II, Void M
Heavy Electron Blaster II, Void M
Heavy Electron Blaster II, Void M
Heavy Electron Blaster II, Void M
Heavy Electron Blaster II, Void M
Heavy Electron Blaster II, Void M
Medium Processor Overclocking Unit I
Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Medium Hybrid Burst Aerator I
Hammerhead II x5
So, pure, balls to the wall damage. No messing with ecm drones for me. More than 800 dps with the guns heated.
I made it all the way through GW without seeing a single person. Jumping into the last system before Curse, I see two in local and a single out gate more than 30 AU away. Some of you can see where this is going. By this point I've been going almost half an hour and I am bored. I give a cursory look at the directional scanner and see nothing, so I warp to the out gate.
Suddenly bubble, and I'm 60km off the gate. A sabre and a falcon decloak and I'm immediately jammed. The sabre's dps is awful. It was a bit embarrassing. However, I knew what was going to happen, I was eventually going to have to reload my xlasb and he was going to kill me without me ever firing a shot. Not a noble way to die.
So, I start to move, webbed, towards to gate. Shields are at 50% and I'm on my last 3 loaded charges. The gate is now 57km away.
30% shields, boost, 35% shields and 54km.
Boost the last two charges out in an attempt to gain some buffer time, 45% shields remaining, 60s before I can boost again and 53km to the gate.
The sabre is sitting 500m directly behind me, the falcon around 30km off.
Shields are now down, and the adrenaline hits. I've got another 45s before I can boost, and another 50km to the gate.
My armour is considerably faster to drop than my shields, he's got plasma loaded.
Half armour now, and I know I'm going to die. 40s to reload and 49km to the gate.
The falcon misses a jam.
I'm so surprised I don't even notice for a few seconds. When I do, I immediately pre-heat my guns, get them blinking as ready to go, and start to lock the sabre.
One second I'm at 25% armour, dying to a sabre. A heartbeat later, and the sabre is a rapidly expanding dust cloud. Heated electron blasters with 2 magstabs has a rate of fire of 1.74 seconds. The sabre had no tank of any kind. My first shot did nearly one and a half thousand damage, the second finished him.
It was so quick I thought the sabre had warped at first.
http://skdi.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=14460592
I have never been more excited while playing a game. I actually cheered in real life. I quickly warped off to a planet to let my booster finish reloading, then warped back to the gate, this time from a less bubble protected angle.
But my exciting Brutix based adventure did not finish there, no sir. I was in no shape to be fighting the denizens of curse, so I hot-footed through to providence in the hope of finding a ratting cruiser or somesuch.
Unfortunately, not quite. I found a hurricane on a gate about five or six jumps into provi, and chased it to a belt. Heating my guns, I tore into his buffered shields and quickly had him down to mid amour. I, on the other hand was still at around 60% shields and boosting nicely.
And then I stopped firing. That same tiny rate of fire that had proven so effective against the sabre, had been my undoing. I had burnt out all seven of my guns after firing less than 30 times. Less than a minute into the fight, I was effectively out of it.
Then, to top it off, the rest of the hurricane's gang started landing. I knew this was it for me, so I decided to simply keep surviving for as long as possible. Some thirty thousand damage later, my valiant brutix gave in.
http://skdi.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=14465563
Best ship I've ever owned. I sincerely suggest you give it a go.
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Awesome story, Kalaratiri!
Fortune does smile on us occasionally. Blaster help though :)
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Actually, heh, it seems I mixed my fits up slightly. My actual brutix fit, as you can see from the killmail, was:
[Brutix, xlasb]
Pseudoelectron Containment Field I
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Experimental 10MN Microwarpdrive I
Large F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction
Warp Scrambler II
X-Large Ancillary Shield Booster, Navy Cap Booster 400
Heavy Electron Blaster II, Void M
Heavy Electron Blaster II, Void M
Heavy Electron Blaster II, Void M
Heavy Electron Blaster II, Void M
Heavy Electron Blaster II, Void M
Heavy Electron Blaster II, Void M
Heavy Electron Blaster II, Void M
Medium Processor Overclocking Unit I
Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Medium Hybrid Burst Aerator I
Hammerhead II x5
Which is even more ganky :D ROF is now 1.69s
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I've just remembered one of the last truly exciting fights I had before I quit.
Dear madam, I applaud you - this sounds like one of those fights making up for all the months of aggravation and suffering leading up to it.
And it makes me jealous, because I haven't yet found an obvious way to fit a decent-sized ASB onto one of my beloved Harbingers (ok, I have not looked into this very deeply yet, either).
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Best recent engagement that comes to mind. (http://anshar.arcadianewsnetwork.net/killboard/?a=kill_related&kll_id=2623)
It's not nearly as one-sided as it looks. There was a sentinel running around the field as well, and the only reason it didn't bugger us all was quick thinking from our Maulus pilot. We'd been playing chicken on the minor for about 10 minutes, and local was awful busy. IIRC we all bounced down there to get a Hookbill (which ran away) and a Jaguar landed just as we were about to move out. About halfway through the Jag, a Wolf popped up, and I dropped into Hull before the thing went down.
Range damps *really* saved the day when the Sentinel landed (Around the same time as the Wolf) As the damage going out onto us was really rather heavy, and the setups we were running were extremely cap-reliant. It hung around the edge of the fight, trying to get close enough to put drones out, but decided not to risk it when the Wolf hit deep armor and pulled back.
Fairly small-scale stuff, but it's the first thing that's gotten my BPM up in weeks. Figured I'd share.
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And it makes me jealous, because I haven't yet found an obvious way to fit a decent-sized ASB onto one of my beloved Harbingers (ok, I have not looked into this very deeply yet, either).
[Harbinger, ASB]
F85 Peripheral Damage System I
Adaptive Nano Plating II
Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
Large Ancillary Shield Booster, Cap Booster 150
X5 Prototype Engine Enervator
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
J5b Phased Prototype Warp Scrambler I
Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Conflagration M
Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Conflagration M
Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Conflagration M
Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Conflagration M
Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Conflagration M
Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Conflagration M
Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Conflagration M
[empty high slot]
Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Medium Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I
Medium Algid Energy Administrations Unit I
Warrior II x5
Hornet EC-300 x5
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And it makes me jealous, because I haven't yet found an obvious way to fit a decent-sized ASB onto one of my beloved Harbingers (ok, I have not looked into this very deeply yet, either).
[Harbinger, ASB]
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Thanks! I was afraid that I would have to drop down to Focused Mediums (I kind of like the range of the Heavies).
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And it makes me jealous, because I haven't yet found an obvious way to fit a decent-sized ASB onto one of my beloved Harbingers (ok, I have not looked into this very deeply yet, either).
[Harbinger, ASB]
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Thanks! I was afraid that I would have to drop down to Focused Mediums (I kind of like the range of the Heavies).
If you still want to use heavies, and if I recall correctly, you can drop one med for 6 heavies instead of 7 meds, on a harbinger it is the same in terms of DPS with 2-3 heatsinks. You will not lose any DPS in the end.
You will lose tracking for more range.
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Last night, we had an incredible cruiser roam.
After killing a panicking PvP Tengu that should have been able to escape us just by hitting and overheating its 100mn AB and coasting out of our webs, or even just docking up we decided to go out on on a T2 frigate/T1 cruiser roam.
We headed up to the end of our patrol path and back without really finding any targets when we were back in Ostingele. Drake found a lone Myrmidon at the belt, and got a tackle. It was obvious bait but we were still flying high off the nearly 800 million ISK tengu kill and figured we were ahead of the game even if we all died horribly, so we jumped in.
The rest us landed and killed the Myrmidion, just in time for a hurricane, tengu, and incursus to jump on top of us.
There was a fire fight! From here it gets confusing because it turned into a free for all so a lot of people show up on the battle report on both sides.
The incursus got blapped so fast we assumed it had warped off and only realized later that drones and the SFI had killed it. The hurricane went down shortly after the Myrmidion, and I landed a tackle on the Tengu with my short point and my web. He was MWD fit, so he slowed down to a crawl, and then he webbed and tackled me, so I set up going as fast as I could with my AB overheated to mitigate his damage. By this point, the rest of the gang had gotten blown up or had managed to warp out, but I was stuck.
I tried to disengage, figuring that since the Tengu was moving 24m/s I would be able to get away with my 200 m/s with AB on. Sadly, this did not turn out to be the case and we had a Suddenly Spaceships Stabber Fleet Issue/Tornado pair land in the belt while it was just me and the not-moving Dual ASB fit tengu.
Being smart folks, generally, the Tornado and SFI locked me up, but started firing on the tengu.
By this point, TSF had managed to reship and regroup, and got back into the belt just in time to get on the Tengu killmail. We landed points on the SFI and blew it up, but not before my Vengeance exploded. The Tornado warped out at that point.
All told, we lost 200 million ISK worth of ships, but blew up 1.2 billion ISK worth of ships, in a super exciting running battle.
I also learned that a vengeance can tank like a boss when it has to.
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The Vengeance is indeed a most holy weapon. My favorite AF by far.
Nice story :)
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The Vengeance is indeed a most holy weapon. My favorite AF by far.
Nice story :)
(http://www.gamesprays.com/files/resource_media/preview/rainbow-dash-20-cooler-6728_preview.png)The vengeance is definetly the most awesomest assault frig in the game ever! It combines speed and agility and awesomeness and radicalness!
Considering that it can take down cruisers, dessis, frigs and other t2 frigs it's definetly a fun ship - and comparably cheap too! You get to swap ammo for whatever suits you best and, last but not least, you can have a pretty decent active tank so you can both pvp and pve in it at the same time!!
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Yeah, Vengence is a pretty sweet AF. About as versatile as the Ishkur, just that the Ishkur can't get quite that absurd tank, and it's weapon of choice can be shot down.
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An Excellent Engagement Last Night!
We had gotten word a POS was under attack about 20 jumps from our area, with several dreadnaughts and carriers on scene and engaging a POS, limited scouts, and negligible bat-phone ability (bat phone for those who aren't familiar is the practice of dialing the cold-war style red phone hotline for a large alliance to come drop ships to save your bacon in serious engagements).
We quickly assembled in staging areas, and got our cyno chain en-route, and poised for attack.
We dropped in the middle of their fleet, mostly capitals with a number of subcaps.
We made a tactical decision to not deploy a dread-fleet due to the high commitment level and number of unknowns - you can attack with a lot of carriers and still escape much easier into friendly tower shields, etc. If you drop 20 dreadnaughts and siege them, you aren't going anywhere for a while, and you never know what's lurking around the corner to blap you while you are under siege and stuck...
THERE WAS A FIREFIIIIGHT
Due to our lack of dreads they had -just- enough remote repping to keep things alive. It was grueling, about a thirty minute slugfest. We at one point got one of their dreads down to 6% structure before he was repped past our damage output.
They had a large number of smartbombing battleships and neuts on field. They could land the smartbomb battleships on top of our targets, and let them rip, shredding fighters quickly. Pull the fighters away from smartbombs and the DPS dropped for them to manageable levels. Very back and forth.
We eventually reconfigured on field and got our neuts to work on their capital remote repairers. After about 10-15 minutes of neuting things finally turned for us and they all broke in short order.
Was not my fleet that night I might have done things a bit differently but we stuck with the plan.
We killed 3 Archons, a Revelation, and 5 battleships, I believe we lost two subcaps. Very nice engagement!
BUT
Enemies scattered, billions in loot on field, and we were beginning mop-up. The fight had literally been over for about 45 seconds.
Our cap fleet had been moving back inside a friendly tower shield, we had about 4 carriers still outside shield, subcaps were looting.
A lone Pandemic Legion Pilot had entered local and warped on field.
CHECK CHECK CYNO UP
11 Pandemic Legion Supercarriers and assorted capital ship death-squad materialized on grid, right on top of us.
BURN FOR TOWER SHEILD! BURN FOR TOWER SHIELD!
Our remaining lumbering capital ships slow-boated into the tower shield literally seconds before the death-squad descended on them.
One of our carriers was not fast enough, and we could only watch helplessly as it was ripped apart in short order.
PL were rightly annoyed at having arrived on field just a minute too late to mutilate us, and we counted ourselves lucky for a successful operation.
Great evening!
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I rarely speak in local during such things but I was forced to post this as we barely escaped their clutches:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Rnw0D2AdYU