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Evolution of Amarrian Religions - Updated
Louella Dougans:
Dates of splits:
Khanid Cults are from somewhere before space travel.
Tetrimon is from when the Mad Emperor and the Moral Reforms started, at the dawn of Amarr space travel.
Ammatar Church is from when the Ammatar came about. Somewhere between the Amarr invasion and the establishment of the Mandate.
Space Nuns, hurr.
Sani Sabik, is ancient, from before Amarr space travel started.
Evil Space Nuns, lolz.
Takmahl, is a Sani Sabik offshoot, from the start of Amarr Space travel.
Blood Raiders are an offshoot of Sani Sabik, with possible Takmahl influence. Date is unknown.
Blood Sephrim - a recent offshoot from Blood Raiders.
Flame of Peace is a recent cult, mentioned in a mission.
Equilibrium of Mankind comes shortly after Amarr space travel. Seekers of a Silent Paradise are an offshoot.
Kernherism is an Avetatist-Tothist offshoot of Reformist Amarr, which is a heresy. Kernherism may be the most dangerous heresy to have appeared in recent times.
Sources:
http://wiki.eve-inspiracy.com/index.php?title=Equilibrium_of_Mankind
http://wiki.eve-inspiracy.com/index.php?title=Sani_Sabik
http://wiki.eve-inspiracy.com/index.php?title=City_of_God
http://wiki.eve-inspiracy.com/index.php?title=Zaragram_II
http://wiki.eve-inspiracy.com/index.php?title=The_Cult_of_Tetrimon_%28Chronicle%29
http://wiki.eve-inspiracy.com/index.php?title=Order_of_St._Tetrimon
http://wiki.eve-inspiracy.com/index.php?title=Khanid_(bloodline)#Zealots
https://www.eveonline.com/article/orthodox-amarr-faith-increasingly-supplanting-ammatar-church - Ammatar Church mention
http://go-dl1.eve-files.com/media/corp/jowen/Amarr_COSMOS_guide_by_Jowen_Datloran_v1.2.pdf
https://www.eveonline.com/article/new-organisation-emerges-in-empire-outskirts - Blood Sephrim mention
https://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=413638 - post by Blood Sephrim leader
Original post below
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--- Quote from: Kathryn Dougans ---Dates of splits:
Khanid Cults are from somewhere before space travel.
Tetrimon is from when the Mad Emperor and the Moral Reforms started.
Ammatar Church is from when the Ammatar came about, naturally.
Space Nuns, hurr.
Sani Sabik, is ancient, from before Amarr space travel started.
Takmahl, I've put at around the same time as the Mad Emperor which is shortly after Amarr Space travel started, and about the same time as Tetrimon and the Moral Reforms began.
Blood Raiders I've put as an offshoot of Sani Sabik, with possible Takmahl influence. Date is unknown, but is several hundred years, I think.
Blood Sephrim - a recent offshoot from Blood Raiders.
Flame of Peace is a recent cult, mentioned in a mission.
Equilibrium of Mankind, is problematic. The background mentions things like "5000 years ago" which would be before Amarr space travel, so I've put that as a "??" for origin.
Sources:
http://wiki.eveonline.com/wiki/Equilibrium_of_Mankind
http://wiki.eveonline.com/wiki/Sani_Sabik
http://wiki.eveonline.com/wiki/City_of_God
http://wiki.eveonline.com/wiki/Zaragram_II
http://wiki.eveonline.com/wiki/The_Cult_of_Tetrimon_%28Chronicle%29
http://wiki.eveonline.com/wiki/Khanid#Zealots
http://www.eveonline.com/news.asp?a=single&nid=3377&tid=2 - Ammatar Church mention
http://go-dl1.eve-files.com/media/corp/jowen/Amarr_COSMOS_guide_by_Jowen_Datloran_v1.2.pdf
http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=413638 - Blood Sephrim
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lallara zhuul:
Only problem for me in there is the fact that the 'Amarr mainstream' consists of so many different variations of worship from region to region, planet to planet, from family to family, that in itself you can find more variation than in these cults that have come out to the fore.
I think that there is a few things that set these cults aside, it is because they differ in few dogmatic issues.
Let me be a bit more clear.
Mainstream:
There is one God.
God is good.
Emperor is the Viceroy of God.
Emperor leads the Empire from the Golden Throne.
Slavery is a way to keep those that would make poor choices spiritually from making them.
Slavery is a way to do penance in the eyes of God.
Inheritance of Sin.
Sanctity of Flesh.
Reclaiming is a sacred duty given to His people by God.
The Holy Amarrian Empire was created to cultivate the spirit of Man.
The Amarrians are the Chosen of God. (linked to inheritance of sin, sanctity of flesh.)
Khanid cults:
King Khanid is the true viceroy of God.
Flesh in itself is not sacred, it is what you do it is that matters in the eyes of God (cyberknights.)
Sani Sabik:
There is no Sin.
The weak are there to uplift the few to greatness.
Equilibrium of Mankind:
There is no Reclaiming, those not dedicated to God should be destroyed.
Tetrimon:
Emperor is the viceroy of God, he should lead the Empire with the council of Apostles, not as a despot.
Takhmahl:
All are created by God, as equal, all are divine.
The shape given by God at birth is not important you can mold it to your will through science/religion.
Keep in mind that these are just rough representations of the cults in question as perceived by me, these 'guidelines' here are just here to make it more clear to you that there is quite a lot of similarities between these different cults that have stemmed off the mainstream of the Amarrian religion and they really do not differ that much from the mainstream in a dogmatic sense.
In practise, even a small change in the dogma can turn a religious Amarrian into a blood drinking ghoul who praises the Red God so that he would gain the strength to be closer to God.
I would like to thank Lou for putting together this visual representation as a guideline for those interested in the Amarrian religion and its cults.
Of course as a discussion about these things there are really no rights or wrongs, partially because of the fact that CCP has not given that much information on the Amarrian religion to the playerbase, partially because every Amarrian roleplayer has touched on these subjects when playing their character and has made their own piecemeal representation of religion that they themselves subject their characters to.
Anyhoos, brekkies ahoy!
Casiella:
Interesting. I thought the Takmahl were an ancient civilization contemporary with the Sleepers and Yan Jung, or have I confused them with someone else?
Louella Dougans:
There was the Talocan, which may be? contemporary with Sleepers. I don't know about the timescale for those two though.
According to the Gallente cosmos background stuff, Yan Jung were original colonists, so may be a lot older than either.
Casiella:
Talocan, that's who I had in mind. Thank you.
So, apart from the 'space nuns', do any of the variations listed above have strong emphasis on what we'd today call "social justice" or, in some religious traditions, "the social Gospel"? I'm thinking here of something vaguely in line with the Sisters of EVE.
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