The other theory I could conjecture would be a pod pilot "taken over" by a rogue drone. Which begs the question, what makes Sleepers so special then? Why aren't we ALL data that's been transmitted into a ship, and why don't we all just have access to T3 right off the bat if that's the case? For that matter, why hasn't CONCORD noticed these rogue drones admitting to their connection to a higher rogue drone hivemind of sorts all over the IGS, and barred them from stations and high security systems?Well, we know that Rogue Drones can infest capsuleers, kinda - but why would they do such a thing?
Reply for me as I can't register there
1st: The "hive" is more of a virus at this stage. We have 4 "drone" types in the "hive" (corp) known as Entity.
True Strain - Which are rogue drone AI that have since moved into the "new processors" for ease of movement within High-sec.
Freed Machines - Systems/Drones/lesser AI/ships/whatever that have gained sentient existance by coming in contact with us at some point or influenced into joining our hive and forsaking their origional programming. (Unexploded Ordinance for example)
Created - Created by us specifically for a purpose. (Children so to speak, afterall, CCP does state drones do "breed" in a sense.)
Infected - These are people who, willing or not, came in contact with the hive. Their implants, capsule, and clone data have been infected by the virus like AI.
The "existance" of these 4 types have occured to explain various people joining. As it is physically impossible to have a corporation planned for RP-Optional PVP with hundreds of people - all roleplaying and typing the EXACT same thing in a hive-mind style at the same time. When I first started this corp, I had no idea that Infected would come to exist... but had to explain it when people's main characters began joining! When they leave, we explain it in various ways as to their regaining of freedom.
2nd: As for our "school" and CONCORD data-base. It is explained in three ways.
1: We do harvest bodies of living and dead humans and convert them to interface with pod technology. As pods were designed for humans, and they are also the direct link to the neocom / market / etc. They afford us mobility within the human markets/high sec without being targeted by Concord (at this time.) It is a useful resource.
2: We can easily hack and display false registrations. I mean, Rogue Drones are supposed to be pretty smart, and rapidly adapting to needs, no?
3: The most important... you can't create a character without a "capsuleer employment history" - game mechanics are in the way. Same reason you can't join Sansha, Ghost. Just because you can not avoid being pew-pew'd by Sansha NPCs - we can not avoid having "starting race/school/etc....... this is the primary reason. 1 & 2 are just "in character" explanations.
Last but not least: We want to have fun. We asked CCP for guidance or opinion on what we have been doing. They saw no problem with it and said have fun - use existing content for direction but not restriction.
Now, what would be interesting is a capsuleer who sympathizes with rogue drones; all that would take is an EXTREMELY convoluted path of logic to explain why anyone would want to interface with murderous AI. Stranger things have been explained. However, even in that case, there would have to be reasoning behind it.
Double post, their boss sent me stuff.This sounds fun. I think I'll try to join up.Quote from: 41 49 3432
Reply for me as I can't register there
1st: The "hive" is more of a virus at this stage. We have 4 "drone" types in the "hive" (corp) known as Entity.
True Strain - Which are rogue drone AI that have since moved into the "new processors" for ease of movement within High-sec.
Freed Machines - Systems/Drones/lesser AI/ships/whatever that have gained sentient existance by coming in contact with us at some point or influenced into joining our hive and forsaking their origional programming. (Unexploded Ordinance for example)
Created - Created by us specifically for a purpose. (Children so to speak, afterall, CCP does state drones do "breed" in a sense.)
Infected - These are people who, willing or not, came in contact with the hive. Their implants, capsule, and clone data have been infected by the virus like AI.
The "existance" of these 4 types have occured to explain various people joining. As it is physically impossible to have a corporation planned for RP-Optional PVP with hundreds of people - all roleplaying and typing the EXACT same thing in a hive-mind style at the same time. When I first started this corp, I had no idea that Infected would come to exist... but had to explain it when people's main characters began joining! When they leave, we explain it in various ways as to their regaining of freedom.
2nd: As for our "school" and CONCORD data-base. It is explained in three ways.
1: We do harvest bodies of living and dead humans and convert them to interface with pod technology. As pods were designed for humans, and they are also the direct link to the neocom / market / etc. They afford us mobility within the human markets/high sec without being targeted by Concord (at this time.) It is a useful resource.
2: We can easily hack and display false registrations. I mean, Rogue Drones are supposed to be pretty smart, and rapidly adapting to needs, no?
3: The most important... you can't create a character without a "capsuleer employment history" - game mechanics are in the way. Same reason you can't join Sansha, Ghost. Just because you can not avoid being pew-pew'd by Sansha NPCs - we can not avoid having "starting race/school/etc....... this is the primary reason. 1 & 2 are just "in character" explanations.
Last but not least: We want to have fun. We asked CCP for guidance or opinion on what we have been doing. They saw no problem with it and said have fun - use existing content for direction but not restriction.
Excellent... I am now not only the galaxy's most successful criminal, I am also infested by rogue drones :D
In Soviet Eve, István infects your Rogue Drones?He will add his technological and biological distinctiveness to your own. :yar: Resistance is...
...damn, that would be actually something you could expect from the character.
In Soviet Eve, István infects your Rogue Drones?He will add his technological and biological distinctiveness to your own. :yar: Resistance is...
...damn, that would be actually something you could expect from the character.
...nevermind. ::shudder::
In all seriousness though I do love the Rogue Drone stuff. It's actually quite inspiring seeing things progress as they have. If I were the Empires (or even CONCORD), I'd be more than concerned, I'd investigate. :twisted:
If I hadn't left EVE due to a combination of too little time to log in and too little patience after years of my own randomness, I'd have already put Nikilaiki into the mix.
In Soviet Eve, István infects your Rogue Drones?He will add his technological and biological distinctiveness to your own. :yar: Resistance is...
...damn, that would be actually something you could expect from the character.
...nevermind. ::shudder::
In all seriousness though I do love the Rogue Drone stuff. It's actually quite inspiring seeing things progress as they have. If I were the Empires (or even CONCORD), I'd be more than concerned, I'd investigate. :twisted:
If I hadn't left EVE due to a combination of too little time to log in and too little patience after years of my own randomness, I'd have already put Nikilaiki into the mix.
I know I'm sitting here on off, twiddling my fingers trying to figure out how to get Nikita involved in them.
In Soviet Eve, István infects your Rogue Drones?He will add his technological and biological distinctiveness to your own. :yar: Resistance is...
...damn, that would be actually something you could expect from the character.
...nevermind. ::shudder::
In all seriousness though I do love the Rogue Drone stuff. It's actually quite inspiring seeing things progress as they have. If I were the Empires (or even CONCORD), I'd be more than concerned, I'd investigate. :twisted:
If I hadn't left EVE due to a combination of too little time to log in and too little patience after years of my own randomness, I'd have already put Nikilaiki into the mix.
I know I'm sitting here on off, twiddling my fingers trying to figure out how to get Nikita involved in them.
But your allraedy involved in the Cartel. How that going to work?
Wanna get infested? :twisted:
Wanna get infested? :twisted:
All I've got to say is thees (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09LTT0xwdfw).Wanna get infested? :twisted:
If you only knew how much temptation that presents for me.
I interacted with them on Kerri briefly just to see how they'd act. My feedback is something along the lines of "a little less HK-47/bad 70s sci-fi evil robot, a little more HAL9000." Using "meatbag" is a bit uncreative, and making statements like "I appreciate the sound of human agony" just isn't my cup of tea.
ohh..... you mean i should have turned round to istvaan and said 'I cannot let you do that Istvaan'
:P lol
come say hi to yuni.... she's somewhat more personable than most of RDS.
[random numbers] > Bzzzzzt come to the drone side, we have silicone chips.
Mei Starkiller > Throw in a whiskey and I'm yours.
... there's plenty of drones ready to chirp in with Bender talk and sequences of numbers, most of them alts of players with little to no rp experience ...
I just read the IGS post. Why do I get this BSG (the new series) feeling? Reminded me of the pilot episode where all those Vipers go dead and get wiped out.Not that I want to give them ideas but if these new rogue drones max out on ewar skills this'd be impressive in an IG fleet skirmish.
So long as it's not me that finds myself suddenly getting beaten down by a fleet of n00balts and all I can do is sit there and gibber in a quivering jello-like manner.^Thar, I improveded it.
So long as it's not me that finds my ship suddenly impotent in a fight and looking out at an approaching mass of rockets, missiles and torps...
I didn't think rogue AI would have the grasp of marketing necessary to mirror our canister ads.
They're learning! D:
I didn't think rogue AI would have the grasp of marketing necessary to mirror our canister ads.
They're learning! D:
I guess we have no choice but to bow to our new robot overlords...
Oh wait... :D
-Punx
In binary, trinary and/or speaking liek Robby the robot.I didn't think rogue AI would have the grasp of marketing necessary to mirror our canister ads.
They're learning! D:
I guess we have no choice but to bow to our new robot overlords...
Oh wait... :D
-Punx
but their avatars have no feet. How do I bow to them?
In binary, trinary and/or speaking liek Robby the robot.
So long as it's not me that finds my ship suddenly impotent in a fight and looking out at an approaching mass of rockets, missiles and torps...Didn't you ever see the BSG episode where they counter-hacked the Cylons and it turned into a turkey shoot?
I doubt I'd ever join up, myself. But there are plenty of other ways to RP with a group, right? ;)Indeed. I know we're being moderately entertained by this over in SYNE. It's not like we're going to wardec them but the RP is giving us something to watch. And for a corp built around RP that's a good thing.
Unffffff.:hands over moist towelette:
Well, I just had the most fun I've had in years. This corp is awesome.
Decided to go hunting. Put another corpmate on a locator agent. Pinged a name in the enemy alliance. The bloodlust took hold. The same bloodkillmurderfucklust that held me in such complete sway from 2004-2006. 17 systems to travel. That's nothing. I'll be there in a heartbeat.
Here you are, little bomber. There you *go,* little bomber. Off you run, little pod. Next target. Another name. Another green square in my addressbook. He's online. 13 systems. I'll be there before you can blink.
I'm there. So's he. So are two of the corpies. He just came from the system we came in through. Here's the plan, boys. Two of us hold on this gate - if he warps to zero, you tackle and force him through. I'll jump through right after and get him on the other side.
No good. He sees us in system. He's either somewhere safe, or somewhere unreachable. Perhaps a different approach. "We mean you no harm," says the mass murderer. The quarry falls for it. "Planet 1" says the mass murderer, and the quarry warps to planet 1... 100km away. Smart. He's being cautious. But he's not paying attention to the random newbie flying around. I invite him to my fleet. I tell him to MWD 50km behind my target relative to my position. 150km total range. Just enough to warp. I warp 50km to the newbie, landing directly on top of the second target.
From his perspective, a deadly ship just crossed a distance of 100km in a second. The Picard maneuver.
He cannot react in time. Even if he could, my range to him is 25% the range of my warp disruptor. Another hull burns. Another pod flees.
Unffffff.
The infestation... spreads...http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r67/S_Baxter2064/Humor/StarTrekHumor2.jpg (http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r67/S_Baxter2064/Humor/StarTrekHumor2.jpg)
I had to leave the drones to do a little alliance tournament training, I plan to be back later.
1. GHSC brought too much too fast to the endeavor causing a really nasty force multiplier, resulting in my gaggle of noobs dropping like flies. I don't have a huge problem with this, but it resulted in part in #2.We couldn't have been THAT scary. :|
..... I swear, if people don't stop calling them ROUGE DRONES on the IGS, I'm going to reactivate Celeste and have her sue a major cosmetics conglomerate on the behalf of the people of the cluster.
Something must be done about makeup applicator robots running amok!
Rouge drones are overpowdered.
Sinjin, how do you feel about the PF regarding "integrated" humans, like the scientists and whatnot that have been "assimilated"?
I just prefer the Drones as being a faceless, inexorable terror.
I'd think the Drones would be more interested in downloading the data from a scientist's computer network than assimilating a scientist.
I'd think the Drones would be more interested in downloading the data from a scientist's computer network than assimilating a scientist.
You might think so, but PF examples exist. So it seems to provide a suitable platform for those that wish to RP this sort of thing.
After all: it's a big cluster.
Who this is, in-universe, is another matter. It's not particularly clear whether it's a rogue drone or Sleeper meatpuppet, or something else entirely.Over in SYNE we're treating this as a Sleeper infomorph. It's our understanding that the first encounter with Awakened Infomorph (or AI_01 for short; we came up with that name because who really wants to confuse a char with the term "A.I.") was in a C6 wormhole after all entrances/exits had been popped by the resident alliance. About a minute after someone picked up AI_01 on d-scan Sleepers started swarming the belt.
Over in SYNE we're treating this as a Sleeper infomorph. It's our understanding that the first encounter with Awakened Infomorph (or AI_01 for short; we came up with that name because who really wants to confuse a char with the term "A.I.") was in a C6 wormhole after all entrances/exits had been popped by the resident alliance. About a minute after someone picked up AI_01 on d-scan Sleepers started swarming the belt.
Related question. In PF has it been established whether Rogue Drones have the tech to blink-of-an-eye transport a ship about 100km? This happened to several people in New Caldari when AI_01 was in the neighborhood.
Related question. In PF has it been established whether Rogue Drones have the tech to blink-of-an-eye transport a ship about 100km? This happened to several people in New Caldari when AI_01 was in the neighborhood.If you consider the SoE Epic Arc PF, they're capable of teleporting their hives. They were already capable of using spatial rifts, and either the Sleepers share the technology or picked up the trick from the Drones. Either one of those possibilities brings up interesting questions. They were also the first to make use of deadspace pockets.
Then again; quantum physics, particle science and teleportation? Where have I heard that before...
Then again; quantum physics, particle science and teleportation? Where have I heard that before...
Portaaal!
So the Enheduanni are coming forth.
The Jovians are cured of their disease.
Hope this plays out better than expected.
Interesting times. Pick a side Ascension or Humanity.
I'd also feel a little misled to find that the Jovian condition, the known effects of which so closely match the symptoms Vitoc, has been unaffected by the introduction of Insorum
On a more thread relevant note: The Rogue Drones seem tied in to both Insorum, being its apparant caretakers, and the Jovians, building their structures and using visual representations of them.
just hadn't heard anything about the Jovian condition being similar to vitoxin infection (that seems strange)
Increased activity of mirror neurons in the premotor cortex and the inferior parietal cortex, leading to a strong sense of empathy, intimacy and trust as well as an increased rate of learning by mimicry.
Suppression of adrenaline and testosterone production, leading to a near-total abatement of any sense of fear, insecurity or aggression in the subject.
Oxytocin acts as a suppressant in the amygdala, the portion of the human brain responsible for the ability to feel fear.
Studies conducted by Sebiestor Tribe personnel have shown that introduction of oxytocin into the cerebro-spinal fluid of a wide variety of mammals can cause even a virgin female to accept foreign offspring, displaying archetypal maternal behaviour even to young of another species. Both females and males treated in such a way showed protective behaviour towards young specimens introduced to their environment.
Over the long term, Vitoc has been shown to have neurotoxic properties that cause a lasting decrease in the brain's serotonin uptake sites, causing clinical depression. In 0.2% of cases, there is also damage to the amygdala, resulting chronic psychosis in the patient. To date, these effects have proven unresponsive to therapy.
A pivotal factor in neutralising the lethal effects of Vitoxin is the structure of the terminal groups of molecules in the antidote - the clusters of atoms protruding from the molecule bind to receptors on the protein coating of the Vitoxin virus, effectively blocking it from interacting with the membranes of cells in the host. This stops the virus injecting DNA into the cell that will cause the cell to produce the toxins that typically cause the death of the host.
the drones in "the empyrean age" that had the Insorum were connected to Otro Gariushi.
I don't think they were "Rogue Drones".
the drones in "the empyrean age" that had the Insorum were connected to Otro Gariushi.
I don't think they were "Rogue Drones".