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[Silas Vitalia]

troof.

Especially with the buffing of so many ships this year, I really hope to see some off the wall 'cheap' wonkiness rolling people.

[Tiberious Thessalonia]

Price is certainly another factor, as is size.  The problem is that roleplay alliances, especially hardcore ones, by necessity don't have a lot of members.  I think TS-F is one of the largest, and our average fleet size is 12.  This doesn't leave a lot of room for substitutions, or people getting sick, or being able to have a diverse fleet composition (not everyone can fly everything, for instance)

For cost well... we're lowsec pirates who have to work on a budget.  We are hell on wheels with T1 cruisers, but it remains to be seen if a T1 cruiser fleet can work in the Alliance Tournament environment.

[Esna Pitoojee]

More than members or money availability, even, I would be concerned about knowledge of the metagame - both "constructive" (i.e., what is the current "rock-paper-scissors" of ship teams? What else has been overlooked that could be an 'ace in the hole' team configuration?) and "destructive" (i.e, what are other teams' preferred configurations? How can we fight them? If we cannot, what orders can we take out enemy team members in to try and get their best minds off the field? I understand in previous years some teams went so far as to set up entirely separate teamspeak/mumble servers from their parent alliance and practiced in wormholes on singularity to counter in-space spies).

The inability to cover all of those bases could be just as crippling as not having "enough money" or enough pilots.

[Silas Vitalia]

More than members or money availability, even, I would be concerned about knowledge of the metagame - both "constructive" (i.e., what is the current "rock-paper-scissors" of ship teams? What else has been overlooked that could be an 'ace in the hole' team configuration?) and "destructive" (i.e, what are other teams' preferred configurations? How can we fight them? If we cannot, what orders can we take out enemy team members in to try and get their best minds off the field? I understand in previous years some teams went so far as to set up entirely separate teamspeak/mumble servers from their parent alliance and practiced in wormholes on singularity to counter in-space spies).

The inability to cover all of those bases could be just as crippling as not having "enough money" or enough pilots.

Don't be paranoid, I think most of the meta-meta-meta is limited to the top teams


Also does anyone have an idea of point totals? I'm assuming they'll likely be pretty close to SCL's current totals (listed below)?

Ship point values are as follows. Ship types not listed in the table are not allowed (see point 6 below for Tournament Prize ships).
Battleship, Pirate Faction - 20
Marauder - 19
Battleship, Empire Faction - 18
Battleship - 17
Black Ops Battleship - 17
Command Ship - 16
Strategic Cruiser - 16
Recon Ship - 14
Logistics Cruiser - 13
Battlecruiser, Empire Faction (Gnosis) - 13
Battlecruiser (Tier 2) - 12
Cruiser, Faction - 12
Heavy Assault Cruiser - 12
Battlecruiser (Tier 3) - 12
Battlecruiser (Tier 1) – 12
Heavy Interdictor - 11
Tech 1 Logistics Cruiser - 10
Cruiser - 7
Stealth Bomber - 5
Electronic Attack Frigate - 4
Frigate, Faction - 4
Assault Frigate - 4
Interdictor - 3
Interceptor - 3
Destroyer - 3
Tech 1 Industrial Ships - 3
Frigate, EW Variant* - 3
Frigate - 2
Rookie Frigate, Pirate Faction – 2
Rookie Frigate – 1

[Sakura Nihil]

It's a challenge to put together an AT team these days.  You need enough money for entry fees and decent ships, and if you manage that, then you need to be good theorycrafters and spend a lot of time practicing to refine the setups.  Case in point, one of our setups last year that revolved around a Bhaalgorn and 2 Oracles was almost a joke setup I cobbled together with my OPFOR team on SISI... and it suddenly started winning.

You have to work with what you got, and sometimes that sparks innovation and fun setups.  However, time and not getting spied upon are also big things to deal with.  At least try and get a spot through the random draw, and give it a chance, it's an excellent experience.

[Caellach Marellus]

Curious that they put Marauders high points wise than other battleships, their low sensor strength makes them pretty easy pickings in PvP against any team with ECM (IE most teams) 

[Sakura Nihil]

Better resists and utility highs for cap transfers can make them formidable tanking boats, especially if rules this year allow them to locally rep while being rep'd by a logi.  Excellent ships for turtle setups (which are boring).

[Silas Vitalia]

Better resists and utility highs for cap transfers can make them formidable tanking boats, especially if rules this year allow them to locally rep while being rep'd by a logi.  Excellent ships for turtle setups (which are boring).

Yea dual-Maurader cap buddies with solo repping are super fun.  If you've got remote or local eccm it can be quite tasty.


BTW that point total list I posted is NOT from the tournament, that's SCL's current values, which I'm magic wand hand waving will be prettttty close to the tournament values

[kalaratiri]

I appear to have been wrong. As of today, EM is strongly considering signing up. We may see you there ladies and gentlemen

[Demion Samenel]

I am going to stand here and poke all of you RPers in alliances to sign up.  Nao.

TSF, PIE, Ushra, IRED, I'm looking at you people.

4TH have signed up.

[Sakura Nihil]

I am going to stand here and poke all of you RPers in alliances to sign up.  Nao.

TSF, PIE, Ushra, IRED, I'm looking at you people.

4TH have signed up.

Good, I look forward to hopefully pew'ing you guys and girls in space.   Especially with Bacch as a commentator!

[Silas Vitalia]

FLIPS ALL THE TABLES



Grumble.

...good luck

[Makkal]

Can someone explain what I'm seeing?

What are the green lines? Does the order matter?

[Mithfindel]

Green lines are the corps that have been picked by the random selection by a lottery ball machine. Numbers were the numbers on the balls. Order doesn't probably matter.

The rest have a silent auction to get in. There's 41 alliances left, with 32 slots to be auctioned, so nine lowest-bidding alliances will not enter the tournament.

[Lasairiona]

I only recognize Razor Alliance.