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http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/alliance-tournament-xi-announced/
The 11th Alliance Tournament will be kicking off on July 20, 2013. While we like to keep things nice and simple like that here in the Tournament Team, a few more announcements regarding this year's Alliance Tournament are in order because we are changing a few things.
Firstly, we will do away with the usual format of qualifying rounds and group stages and go for a double elimination bracket format from the start. This raises the stakes significantly for all participants as all matches will matter!
Secondly, Alliance Tournament XI will run over three weekends instead of four as has been the common practice.
Thirdly, we will be introducing bans into the Alliance Tournament from the second weekend onwards. Team captains will ban out two ship types each before the match starts so that neither team can field that specific ship type in the match. The effect of the bans will be the same as the New Eden Open, while the format will become a 1 - 2 - 1 type rather than the 1 - 1 - 1 - 1 that we saw in the NEO. With this added to the mix, matches will be more varied and exciting.
Lastly, to fly with an alliance in the Alliance Tournament XI you will need to have been a member of that alliance from downtime this morning, at 11:00 UTC May 15th. Each alliance may only field one team.
There will be future Dev Blogs in the coming weeks which cover the rules, broadcast schedule and sign up details, so stay tuned! For those who missed the previous ones - the matches from Alliance Tournaments IX and X are available on CCP's YouTube channel.
EVE TV's Player Commentator Team
We will once again be opening up the application process for players who would like to be PVP commentators. These elite players are handpicked by us to fly out to Iceland for the tournament finals played over the final two weekends, joining the team here at CCP HQ to help us run the live broadcasts.
As a commentator you'll be on the set discussing the tournament, tactics, teams and talking with developers about EVE live on air. You'll also take shifts in the commentary booth providing live commentary on the matches themselves. You need to know your PvP and you need to know how to keep on talking!
Alliance Tournament XI will take place over three consecutive weekends starting on Saturday, July 20 and ending with the grand finale on Sunday, August 4. Flights (from all Icelandair destinations) and accommodations are supplied by us. All you need is a little spending money.
So you're interested? The next step is to check this short list and make sure you match what we're looking for!
Can you come out and play? Selected players will need to hold a valid passport (we will require scans to confirm this at a later stage) and be available to fly to Iceland on Wednesday, July 24 and return home on Monday, August 5.
A sense of humor is a must: commentators will need to be sharp-witted, knowledgeable, presentable and comfortable with talking on camera and into a microphone. To increase your chances of getting through, we highly recommend submitting any pre-made or purpose filmed video you have of yourself (link to a YouTube clip!) as part of your application.
You need to know your PvP: We don't despise industrialists, mission-runners and miners but as this is a PvP tournament and you need to be well versed.
You must be 21+ in order to apply.
If you are interested in taking part, please email us at evetv@ccpgames.com by 23:59 UTC (Eve Time) on Sunday May 26, 2013 with the following information. Those lucky enough to be selected for the second round of eliminations must be available to attend voice chat interviews on Saturday, June 1, 2013. The chosen commentators will be announced by June 5, 2013.
Character and real name.
Date of birth.
Nationality and current country of residence.
Tell us about yourself, both in game and out. Remember what you're applying for and sell yourself to that effect.
Confirm you are available between the 24th of July to 5th of August to fly to Iceland. If you need to book time off work / school please don't do it until we accept you; but please check that it is possible, if there is any doubt here please let us know.
Remember your applying to be on TV! Include any multimedia you think shows you off, all of the people chosen for the last Tournament had sent in video clips/links to YouTube!
Applications close on May 26, so get mailing!
A final note: The Tournament from the perspective of a commentator is an amazing experience. You get to take part in a unique production, fly to Iceland, get a tour around the CCP office and chat to developers like almost no other players will ever get the chance to. But with great power comes great responsibility; planning and promotional shows take place during the weeks up to the final show and you may not be asked to fly to Iceland if you fail to take part or become unavailable during this time!
On behalf of the Tournament Team,
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July's gonna be busy for me but I will be watching as much as possible, maybe even get a chance to participate.
I've heard that SCL4 is going to use the AT11 ruleset and be a "dry-run" for a lot of the more active in the tourney alliances, IE PL, Hydra, Outbreak, Rote, Verge, etc.
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Lastly, to fly with an alliance in the Alliance Tournament XI you will need to have been a member of that alliance from downtime this morning, at 11:00 UTC May 15th. Each alliance may only field one team.
Effectively removing the ability to make 'all star' teams, and making it an actual alliance tournament. Yaaay.
Also, bets are on as to how long it takes HYDRA to get disqualified again :lol:
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See you on the field, ladies and gentlemen!
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I am going to stand here and poke all of you RPers in alliances to sign up. Nao.
TSF, PIE, Ushra, IRED, I'm looking at you people.
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I am going to stand here and poke all of you RPers in alliances to sign up. Nao.
TSF, PIE, Ushra, IRED, I'm looking at you people.
It is unlikely EM will be signing up, as we have other things to focus on right now, and no one to really lead a team. All our FCs are busy :P
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I am going to stand here and poke all of you RPers in alliances to sign up. Nao.
TSF, PIE, Ushra, IRED, I'm looking at you people.
It is unlikely EM will be signing up, as we have other things to focus on right now, and no one to really lead a team. All our FCs are busy :P
Sign up, fill the holes later. Being admitted will spur involvement!
Bring that Matari Pride!
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Pride? I think that was lions, Silas. Not Minmatar.
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Pride? I think that was lions, Silas. Not Minmatar.
:P I mean you know, pride in you race and ships :P
More RPers in AT is only a good thing.
Bitter tears from teams losing to wizard hat groups makes us all happy happy people.
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I am going to stand here and poke all of you RPers in alliances to sign up. Nao.
TSF, PIE, Ushra, IRED, I'm looking at you people.
It's something we've discussed briefly, but I'm not certain there's enough interest, or hope, on our part. It also costs All The Money.
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I am going to stand here and poke all of you RPers in alliances to sign up. Nao.
TSF, PIE, Ushra, IRED, I'm looking at you people.
We have been trying to get into the alliance tournament for the last three years. We can't afford to sink tens of billions of ISK into the lottery, and the drawing is really just a matter of luck.
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I am going to stand here and poke all of you RPers in alliances to sign up. Nao.
TSF, PIE, Ushra, IRED, I'm looking at you people.
We have been trying to get into the alliance tournament for the last three years. We can't afford to sink tens of billions of ISK into the lottery, and the drawing is really just a matter of luck.
This is why there needs to be extensive and more open qualifying before the televised rounds.
Tiberius, you answer is rejected! SIGN UP FOR ALL THE THINGS NAO.
The only really expensive comitment is in implants. Those extra 5%'s for fitting and damage and tanking do add up.
The 'flagships' with officer mods are totally unnecessary and do get rolled all the time.
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How much is the entry fee ? Still 1B ?
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How much is the entry fee ? Still 1B ?
I believe so, but what starts adding up is replacing ships after matches and rigging all your people with as much implants as are feasible based on ship roles. Some of them make a pretty big difference in what you can fit on you ships and change things up that extra tiny little bit.
Of course this makes no difference when you bring the wrong ships though :/
A lot of people on this forum have participated and I hope they chime in as well, but it was one of the most super fun and exciting and also terrifying EVE experiences for me, ever.
The whole fitting and ship-type meta game about what you will bring to the fight is just so much fun, running different ideas and testing them out to see how awesome or fail they are, etc. Looking at your opponents records and trying to figure out what they might be using.
The absolute nerves before the match, the awesomeness and high stakes of the fights, the space high fives when you win a match vs a tough opponent.
The utter embarrassment when for your final match you fail at math and show up with too many points for you team and you are obliterated in about 1 minute. I still get trolled about this from alliance mates, deservedly.
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As one would expect Rote has an entire sub-culture around the AT's, the teams, the team captains, co-capts. The most surprising is the level of buy-in from alliance mates. In the form of billions of isk donated. We do have some richfags, but honestly it's a grass roots movement for most of our funding every year.
That being said, AT's are nothing if not expensive. Rote made it to the round of 32 last time, before getting knocked out by the eventual winners (VoC) and it cost us just under 8 bil isk if I remember the spreadsheet correctly.
With the resurgence of t1 ships there are plenty of reasonable setups that can be fielded on the "cheap," while still being effective. Honestly, implants of the +5%'s variety are the biggest isk sink. I'd anticipate most alliances spending between 5-10 bil isk for this years tourney, with outliers and experts like HYDRA, PL, Us and exodus, VoC and a few others going for more expensive buy in's between 10-20 bil isk. PL probably more than 20 to be honest. The further you get, the more expensive it gets. Just hope you don't end up with a bunch of good teams in your initial bracket section or worse, a bunch of bullies in the losers bracket. Smart money says Hydra will lose it's first round in order to go to the statistically easier losers bracket.
With tiericide and the new Navy BC's t1/Faction based ship setups are going to be a lot more common, but if you plan on being successful, you really do need quite a lot of buy-in from your alliance. Not only will you need a solid core of well skilled pilots capable of flying needed ship types well, you will also need a decently skilled "b" team that can show up to practices on sisi.
Other concerns include operational security for your practices, logistic pre-match, setup management, theory crafting, etc etc.
Not a small concern to say the least. But if you have or can get a dedicated captain, and a good support staff, you just might, just might, have a magical moment like "10 thoraxes" or last year's PL v Rote Match (ultra expensive).
Even without "huge" matches like those, each match will live on in the history of both the AT and your alliance as something alternatively fondly and hatefully remembered.
To put that comment into perspective, in at8 rote lost to Hydra, I piloted a Bhaalgorn in that match, I think it was our flagship, anyways, I refought that battle on and off for the next 8 months and still wonder, "gee if we had done X instead of Y...." Maybe things would have been different.
There are several risk with going into the AT. First, if you expect to do very well, you could end up getting a sudden surge in "interest-generated" recruiting, while not 'bad' it can be easier for spy's to trickle in, like they aren't there already.
Worse, if you do poorly, you can stand to lose a lot of respect. While not SUPER important, that might deny you recruits and cause your alliance to suffer for a few weeks after the AT. Or you could do a "meh" job and slide back into obscurity.
All in all, AT's rock and should always be attempted. Always stick around for the "bidding" part of the AT slots, last year some guys got in for just the asking price of one plex.
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troof.
Especially with the buffing of so many ships this year, I really hope to see some off the wall 'cheap' wonkiness rolling people.
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Price is certainly another factor, as is size. The problem is that roleplay alliances, especially hardcore ones, by necessity don't have a lot of members. I think TS-F is one of the largest, and our average fleet size is 12. This doesn't leave a lot of room for substitutions, or people getting sick, or being able to have a diverse fleet composition (not everyone can fly everything, for instance)
For cost well... we're lowsec pirates who have to work on a budget. We are hell on wheels with T1 cruisers, but it remains to be seen if a T1 cruiser fleet can work in the Alliance Tournament environment.
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More than members or money availability, even, I would be concerned about knowledge of the metagame - both "constructive" (i.e., what is the current "rock-paper-scissors" of ship teams? What else has been overlooked that could be an 'ace in the hole' team configuration?) and "destructive" (i.e, what are other teams' preferred configurations? How can we fight them? If we cannot, what orders can we take out enemy team members in to try and get their best minds off the field? I understand in previous years some teams went so far as to set up entirely separate teamspeak/mumble servers from their parent alliance and practiced in wormholes on singularity to counter in-space spies).
The inability to cover all of those bases could be just as crippling as not having "enough money" or enough pilots.
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More than members or money availability, even, I would be concerned about knowledge of the metagame - both "constructive" (i.e., what is the current "rock-paper-scissors" of ship teams? What else has been overlooked that could be an 'ace in the hole' team configuration?) and "destructive" (i.e, what are other teams' preferred configurations? How can we fight them? If we cannot, what orders can we take out enemy team members in to try and get their best minds off the field? I understand in previous years some teams went so far as to set up entirely separate teamspeak/mumble servers from their parent alliance and practiced in wormholes on singularity to counter in-space spies).
The inability to cover all of those bases could be just as crippling as not having "enough money" or enough pilots.
Don't be paranoid, I think most of the meta-meta-meta is limited to the top teams :P
Also does anyone have an idea of point totals? I'm assuming they'll likely be pretty close to SCL's current totals (listed below)?
Ship point values are as follows. Ship types not listed in the table are not allowed (see point 6 below for Tournament Prize ships).
Battleship, Pirate Faction - 20
Marauder - 19
Battleship, Empire Faction - 18
Battleship - 17
Black Ops Battleship - 17
Command Ship - 16
Strategic Cruiser - 16
Recon Ship - 14
Logistics Cruiser - 13
Battlecruiser, Empire Faction (Gnosis) - 13
Battlecruiser (Tier 2) - 12
Cruiser, Faction - 12
Heavy Assault Cruiser - 12
Battlecruiser (Tier 3) - 12
Battlecruiser (Tier 1) – 12
Heavy Interdictor - 11
Tech 1 Logistics Cruiser - 10
Cruiser - 7
Stealth Bomber - 5
Electronic Attack Frigate - 4
Frigate, Faction - 4
Assault Frigate - 4
Interdictor - 3
Interceptor - 3
Destroyer - 3
Tech 1 Industrial Ships - 3
Frigate, EW Variant* - 3
Frigate - 2
Rookie Frigate, Pirate Faction – 2
Rookie Frigate – 1
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It's a challenge to put together an AT team these days. You need enough money for entry fees and decent ships, and if you manage that, then you need to be good theorycrafters and spend a lot of time practicing to refine the setups. Case in point, one of our setups last year that revolved around a Bhaalgorn and 2 Oracles was almost a joke setup I cobbled together with my OPFOR team on SISI... and it suddenly started winning.
You have to work with what you got, and sometimes that sparks innovation and fun setups. However, time and not getting spied upon are also big things to deal with. At least try and get a spot through the random draw, and give it a chance, it's an excellent experience.
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Curious that they put Marauders high points wise than other battleships, their low sensor strength makes them pretty easy pickings in PvP against any team with ECM (IE most teams)
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Better resists and utility highs for cap transfers can make them formidable tanking boats, especially if rules this year allow them to locally rep while being rep'd by a logi. Excellent ships for turtle setups (which are boring).
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Better resists and utility highs for cap transfers can make them formidable tanking boats, especially if rules this year allow them to locally rep while being rep'd by a logi. Excellent ships for turtle setups (which are boring).
Yea dual-Maurader cap buddies with solo repping are super fun. If you've got remote or local eccm it can be quite tasty.
BTW that point total list I posted is NOT from the tournament, that's SCL's current values, which I'm magic wand hand waving will be prettttty close to the tournament values :)
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I appear to have been wrong. As of today, EM is strongly considering signing up. We may see you there ladies and gentlemen :P
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I am going to stand here and poke all of you RPers in alliances to sign up. Nao.
TSF, PIE, Ushra, IRED, I'm looking at you people.
4TH have signed up.
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I am going to stand here and poke all of you RPers in alliances to sign up. Nao.
TSF, PIE, Ushra, IRED, I'm looking at you people.
4TH have signed up.
Good, I look forward to hopefully pew'ing you guys and girls in space. :) Especially with Bacch as a commentator!
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FLIPS ALL THE TABLES
(http://i.imgur.com/HA9GtU0.jpg)
Grumble.
...good luck
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Can someone explain what I'm seeing?
What are the green lines? Does the order matter?
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Green lines are the corps that have been picked by the random selection by a lottery ball machine. Numbers were the numbers on the balls. Order doesn't probably matter.
The rest have a silent auction to get in. There's 41 alliances left, with 32 slots to be auctioned, so nine lowest-bidding alliances will not enter the tournament.
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I only recognize Razor Alliance.
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If I recall -any- alliance can enter the silent auction, even alliances that weren't part of original draw....
We'll see what we get....
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/me sulks and puts away cheerleader outfit.
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Green lines are the corps that have been picked by the random selection by a lottery ball machine. Numbers were the numbers on the balls. Order doesn't probably matter.
The rest have a silent auction to get in. There's 41 alliances left, with 32 slots to be auctioned, so nine lowest-bidding alliances will not enter the tournament.
Thank you.
What does the silent auction entail? They place a bid without knowing what everyone else is bidding?
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Green lines are the corps that have been picked by the random selection by a lottery ball machine. Numbers were the numbers on the balls. Order doesn't probably matter.
The rest have a silent auction to get in. There's 41 alliances left, with 32 slots to be auctioned, so nine lowest-bidding alliances will not enter the tournament.
Thank you.
What does the silent auction entail? They place a bid without knowing what everyone else is bidding?
Something like that. Blind auction might be a better description.
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I'm sorry you didn't make the raffle Silas. Hope you do better with the auction.
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Alliances that are in in the random draw:
01 - Confederation of xXPizzaXx - left TEST, have been harassing them since, known of bomber fleets (now joined forces against Goons, I think). Possibly built around 4chan-originated corps?
03 - Moist. - no idea, based on kills looks like they're (not too good) pirates
06 - Test Alliance Please Ignore - Built around Reddit-originated corps
09 - Exodus. - been around before, relatively small. Apparently hang around Placid, Cloud Ring, Syndicate now.
10 - The Obsidian Front - no idea, possibly living in the Great Wildlands
13 - Drunk 'n' Disorderly - Gallente FW alliance
14 - Outbreak. - Is Outbreak. Buddies with Hydra, didn't check but probably just the Outbreak corp, know their stuff
15 - End of Life - no idea, looks like a small gang PvP alliance, Syndicate, nullsec choke points, W-space
17 - Clockwork Pineapple - Executor Corporation: The Greater Goon. I.e. the non-Goonfleet SA alliance, not friendly to Goonswarm IIRC, looks like they hang in Syndicate
21 - Perihelion Alliance - Tournament veterans. The alliance has now 23 members (23 characters), and they don't seem to have a lot of kills on eve-kill (last one being from the dev caravan)
25 - Hun Reloaded - Former tournament winner alliance, Hungarian alliance, know their stuff
27 - Urine Alliance - Snuff Box. Lowsec PvP
28 - Circle-of-Two - Alliance veterans, long history in nullsec, currently part of the CFC
31 - Hydra Reloaded - Alliance veterans, Genos Occidere, Pod Liberation Authority & friends
32 - Angeli Mortis - no idea, looks like Bleaks/Devoid pirates based on their kills
35 - Synthetic Systems - no idea, based on their kills losses looks like they hang in the southeast
40 - Darkness of Despair - current incarnation of the Russian alliance in the south
41 - Scum. - Caldari/Gallente FW theatre pirates by the looks
45 - Why So Serious - nullsec alliance from the southeast
46 - Agony Empire - Famous for their small gang PvP classes, Agony Unleashed corp
48 - Razor Alliance - Not the alliance that once was the only one to keep sov when MC steamrolled the north. Sure, they have old Razor and Morsus Mihi corps (and The Graduates), but not sure how capable they are these days outside of blobs
52 - Wormhole Holders - Yeah, looks like a wormhole corp, outside of my expertise
53 - Late Night Alliance - Looks like a collection of corps from Minmatar FW, like ROSS and Autocannons Anonymous
55 - Babylon 5. - no idea, looks like a southeastern alliance
57 - Shadow Cartel - Lowsec PvP alliance, like to roll around in expensive toys IIRC
58 - Darkside. - Tournament veterans, active PvPers
60 - Sadistica Alliance - Apparently Aridia residents.
63 - R.E.V.O.L.U.T.I.O.N - A Russian alliance apparently hanging around in the OMS-Tama pipe
68 - No Holes Barred - I recognize eXceed Inc., apparently now hanging around in wormholes
69 - Mildly Sober - no idea, and no idea about relation to Mildly Intoxicated (who are yet another southeastern alliance)
70 - Rainbow Dash Friends - looks like Caldari/Gallente warzone pirates
72 - Your Voted Don't Count - SniggWaffe, Sniggerdly's academy corp, PL B-team
Tournament-wise, big names and former big names that didn't get picked:
The Kadeshi, RVB, Verge of Collapse (ruling champions), The Godfathers, Northern Coalition. (Doom., Rionnag Alba, Destructive Influence, Burn Eden), Dystopia (GHSC), PL (SniggWaffe got in, though), The Ronin, Dead Terrorists, Solar Fleet (Red Alliance heirs), Rote Kapelle, The Retirement Club (Shiva, Evolution, Reikoku, Interstellar Exodus & friends)
Probably forgot a few. Of RP/former RP alliances, there's CVA and the Fourth District also still on the list for the auction.
Edit: And yes, apparently all alliances which are not yet in are eligible to bid in the silent auction. Bidding will continue over the weekend. Newspost here. (http://community.eveonline.com/news/news-channels/eve-online-news/alliance-tournament-xi-silent-auction-live/)
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Ohgod Sadistica.
Ahahahahaha.
We've been messing with these guys lately. This should be amusing.
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Alliances that are in in the random draw:
01 - Confederation of xXPizzaXx - left TEST, have been harassing them since, known of bomber fleets (now joined forces against Goons, I think). Possibly built around 4chan-originated corps?
03 - Moist. - no idea, based on kills looks like they're (not too good) pirates
06 - Test Alliance Please Ignore - Built around Reddit-originated corps
09 - Exodus. - been around before, relatively small. Apparently hang around Placid, Cloud Ring, Syndicate now. - Extremely talented small gang skirmishers. Regularly take gangs fo fast battlecruisers and cruisers through wormholes to nullsec then roaming home killing as they go.
10 - The Obsidian Front - no idea, possibly living in the Great Wildlands Anti-pirate alliance living in Metropolis lowsec. Senior members of the COA (Coalition of Anti-pirates) and allies of Electus Matari
13 - Drunk 'n' Disorderly - Gallente FW alliance - Extremely capital heavy alliance, famed for 'dread-bombing' a PL titan and a Goonswarm capital fleet.
14 - Outbreak. - Is Outbreak. Buddies with Hydra, didn't check but probably just the Outbreak corp, know their stuff
15 - End of Life - no idea, looks like a small gang PvP alliance, Syndicate, nullsec choke points, W-space
17 - Clockwork Pineapple - Executor Corporation: The Greater Goon. I.e. the non-Goonfleet SA alliance, not friendly to Goonswarm IIRC, looks like they hang in Syndicate
21 - Perihelion Alliance - Tournament veterans. The alliance has now 23 members (23 characters), and they don't seem to have a lot of kills on eve-kill (last one being from the dev caravan)
25 - Hun Reloaded - Former tournament winner alliance, Hungarian alliance, know their stuff
27 - Urine Alliance - Snuff Box. Lowsec PvP
28 - Circle-of-Two - Alliance veterans, long history in nullsec, currently part of the CFC
31 - Hydra Reloaded - Alliance veterans, Genos Occidere, Pod Liberation Authority & friends
32 - Angeli Mortis - no idea, looks like Bleaks/Devoid pirates based on their kills
35 - Synthetic Systems - no idea, based on their kills losses looks like they hang in the southeast
40 - Darkness of Despair - current incarnation of the Russian alliance in the south
41 - Scum. - Caldari/Gallente FW theatre pirates by the looks
45 - Why So Serious - nullsec alliance from the southeast - Members fo the N3 coalition and allies of Nulli Secunda and Northern Coalition.
46 - Agony Empire - Famous for their small gang PvP classes, Agony Unleashed corp
48 - Razor Alliance - Not the alliance that once was the only one to keep sov when MC steamrolled the north. Sure, they have old Razor and Morsus Mihi corps (and The Graduates), but not sure how capable they are these days outside of blobs
52 - Wormhole Holders - Yeah, looks like a wormhole corp, outside of my expertise
53 - Late Night Alliance - Looks like a collection of corps from Minmatar FW, like ROSS and Autocannons Anonymous - A groupd of American time zone ('late night') alliances. Pretty piratey, but skilful with cruiser and battlecruiser gangs. Some capital experience.
55 - Babylon 5. - no idea, looks like a southeastern alliance
57 - Shadow Cartel - Lowsec PvP alliance, like to roll around in expensive toys IIRC - Highly talented pirates in all gang sizes. Some very creative and talented FCs and theory crafters. Look for Scorpion Navy Issues.
58 - Darkside. - Tournament veterans, active PvPers
60 - Sadistica Alliance - Apparently Aridia residents.
63 - R.E.V.O.L.U.T.I.O.N - A Russian alliance apparently hanging around in the OMS-Tama pipe
68 - No Holes Barred - I recognize eXceed Inc., apparently now hanging around in wormholes - Alliance formed by the Norwegian wh corp NorCorp
69 - Mildly Sober - no idea, and no idea about relation to Mildly Intoxicated (who are yet another southeastern alliance)
70 - Rainbow Dash Friends - looks like Caldari/Gallente warzone pirates
72 - Your Voted Don't Count - SniggWaffe, Sniggerdly's academy corp, PL B-team
Tournament-wise, big names and former big names that didn't get picked:
The Kadeshi, RVB, Verge of Collapse (ruling champions), The Godfathers, Northern Coalition. (Doom., Rionnag Alba, Destructive Influence, Burn Eden), Dystopia (GHSC), PL (SniggWaffe got in, though), The Ronin, Dead Terrorists, Solar Fleet (Red Alliance heirs), Rote Kapelle, The Retirement Club (Shiva, Evolution, Reikoku, Interstellar Exodus & friends)
Probably forgot a few. Of RP/former RP alliances, there's CVA and the Fourth District also still on the list for the auction.
Edit: And yes, apparently all alliances which are not yet in are eligible to bid in the silent auction. Bidding will continue over the weekend. Newspost here. (http://community.eveonline.com/news/news-channels/eve-online-news/alliance-tournament-xi-silent-auction-live/)
Bolded additions to what I know.
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Alliances that are in in the random draw:
01 - Confederation of xXPizzaXx - left TEST, have been harassing them since, known of bomber fleets (now joined forces against Goons, I think). Possibly built around 4chan-originated corps? Confirmed.
03 - Moist. - no idea, based on kills looks like they're (not too good) pirates
06 - Test Alliance Please Ignore - Built around Reddit-originated corps
09 - Exodus. - been around before, relatively small. Apparently hang around Placid, Cloud Ring, Syndicate now. - Extremely talented small gang skirmishers. Regularly take gangs fo fast battlecruisers and cruisers through wormholes to nullsec then roaming home killing as they go.
10 - The Obsidian Front - no idea, possibly living in the Great Wildlands Anti-pirate alliance living in Metropolis lowsec. Senior members of the COA (Coalition of Anti-pirates) and allies of Electus Matari. Heh. Well, good luck to them.
13 - Drunk 'n' Disorderly - Gallente FW alliance - Extremely capital heavy alliance, famed for 'dread-bombing' a PL titan and a Goonswarm capital fleet.
14 - Outbreak. - Is Outbreak. Buddies with Hydra, didn't check but probably just the Outbreak corp, know their stuff
15 - End of Life - no idea, looks like a small gang PvP alliance, Syndicate, nullsec choke points, W-space
17 - Clockwork Pineapple - Executor Corporation: The Greater Goon. I.e. the non-Goonfleet SA alliance, not friendly to Goonswarm IIRC, looks like they hang in Syndicate Not sure how unfriendly they are currently with GF, but they don't support them in campaigns. These guys fight Rote Kapelle/I-RED/CYN0/etc in syndicate, so I expect they can handle themselves in the tourney's gang-fight.
21 - Perihelion Alliance - Tournament veterans. The alliance has now 23 members (23 characters), and they don't seem to have a lot of kills on eve-kill (last one being from the dev caravan)
25 - Hun Reloaded - Former tournament winner alliance, Hungarian alliance, know their stuff
27 - Urine Alliance - Snuff Box. Lowsec PvP. Skilled pvpers.
28 - Circle-of-Two - Alliance veterans, long history in nullsec, currently part of the CFC
31 - Hydra Reloaded - Alliance veterans, Genos Occidere, Pod Liberation Authority & friends
32 - Angeli Mortis - no idea, looks like Bleaks/Devoid pirates based on their kills
35 - Synthetic Systems - no idea, based on their kills losses looks like they hang in the southeast
40 - Darkness of Despair - current incarnation of the Russian alliance in the south. Expect AAA/Stain Empire level PVP from DoD. Because that is what they are.
41 - Scum. - Caldari/Gallente FW theatre pirates by the looks, Yup. They get a lot of shit from other pirates but honestly they're pretty good at what they do.
45 - Why So Serious - nullsec alliance from the southeast - Members fo the N3 coalition and allies of Nulli Secunda and Northern Coalition.
46 - Agony Empire - Famous for their small gang PvP classes, Agony Unleashed corp
48 - Razor Alliance - Not the alliance that once was the only one to keep sov when MC steamrolled the north. Sure, they have old Razor and Morsus Mihi corps (and The Graduates), but not sure how capable they are these days outside of blobs
52 - Wormhole Holders - Yeah, looks like a wormhole corp, outside of my expertise
53 - Late Night Alliance - Looks like a collection of corps from Minmatar FW, like ROSS and Autocannons Anonymous - A groupd of American time zone ('late night') alliances. Pretty piratey, but skilful with cruiser and battlecruiser gangs. Some capital experience.
55 - Babylon 5. - no idea, looks like a southeastern alliance. Used to live in Fountain when BOB was around. Not very good as I recall
57 - Shadow Cartel - Lowsec PvP alliance, like to roll around in expensive toys IIRC - Highly talented pirates in all gang sizes. Some very creative and talented FCs and theory crafters. Look for Scorpion Navy Issues. Have a number of Alliance Tourney Veterans (The Bastards, etc) in their ranks as well. Don't let their expensive boats fool you: they know exactly how to wreck shit in cheap boats.
58 - Darkside. - Tournament veterans, active PvPers Excellent Russian nullsec medium-gang pvp corp, always considered a strong contender for the finals
60 - Sadistica Alliance - Apparently Aridia residents. Aridia pirates, decent medium gang pvpers
63 - R.E.V.O.L.U.T.I.O.N - A Russian alliance apparently hanging around in the OMS-Tama pipe
68 - No Holes Barred - I recognize eXceed Inc., apparently now hanging around in wormholes - Alliance formed by the Norwegian wh corp NorCorp
69 - Mildly Sober - no idea, and no idea about relation to Mildly Intoxicated (who are yet another southeastern alliance)
70 - Rainbow Dash Friends - looks like Caldari/Gallente warzone pirates Known for gatecamping and for derping their gangs. Have gotten considerably better in the last month or so
72 - Your Voted Don't Count - SniggWaffe, Sniggerdly's academy corp, PL B-team Probably NOT PL's B-Team. YVDC and PL may be closely related due to YVDC being Snigg's recruitment corp, but they are also rivals and rarely fly together in space. Am guessing that if they won, they'd keep the spoils for themselves.
Tournament-wise, big names and former big names that didn't get picked:
The Kadeshi, RVB, Verge of Collapse (ruling champions), The Godfathers, Northern Coalition. (Doom., Rionnag Alba, Destructive Influence, Burn Eden), Dystopia (GHSC), PL (SniggWaffe got in, though), The Ronin, Dead Terrorists, Solar Fleet (Red Alliance heirs), Rote Kapelle, The Retirement Club (Shiva, Evolution, Reikoku, Interstellar Exodus & friends)
Probably forgot a few. Of RP/former RP alliances, there's CVA and the Fourth District also still on the list for the auction.
Edit: And yes, apparently all alliances which are not yet in are eligible to bid in the silent auction. Bidding will continue over the weekend. Newspost here. (http://community.eveonline.com/news/news-channels/eve-online-news/alliance-tournament-xi-silent-auction-live/)
Bolded additions to what I know.
Bold Red is my contributions.
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Yeah, Pizza was a splinter off of the 4chan corp that used to live in southern Fountain, whom they harassed for a while along with TEST, then we dabbled in FW for a bit, and since I've left them they've taken to bombing flights apparently. Fun crowd.
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Confirming Babylon 5 don't deserve to tarnish the name of that hallowed show I loved :P
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http://community.eveonline.com/community/alliance-tournament/
\o/ Silas' crew, CVA, Rote and 4th all got in!
Edit: I eagerly await a Silas vs. CVA matchup. Just sayin'.
Edit 2: Schedule for first weekend (July 20th) is up: http://community.eveonline.com/community/alliance-tournament/schedule/
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Super congrats and GOOD LUCK to everyone that got in!
I too will welcome a CVA matchup only so that I can spam SABIK VICTOR in local :P
Going to be a good first fight, Exodus. went to the Semi's last year with some great setups.
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Silas, you guys got a nasty first draw. Exodus. are pretty damn talented. Good luck!
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Silas, you guys got a nasty first draw. Exodus. are pretty damn talented. Good luck!
At least win or lose, that match will not be televised (although it will be FRAPSED of course).
:P
Also if we get to round of 32 we'll have earned it, unlike so many of the gimme matches I'm seeing on the lineup :)
LET THE EFT WARRIOR CUP BEGIN
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Oh boy!
I wonder if there will be in-game gambling on this?
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Hoping for a Rote vs. 4th District matchup. There's some good history there between us.
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Hoping for a Rote vs. 4th District matchup. There's some good history there between us.
We hope so to I can tell you 8)
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From the marvellous gents on Failheap:
Oh i dunno man.
Donnie won't tell us our practice system or password on Duality, because he is an Internet Troll. So we've got no fleet comps, can't practice, and current thinking is that we'll just bring haulers or something and try to form a swastika out of industrial ships before we all die so we can claim we weren't taking it seriously in the first place.
It is going to be embarrassing, frankly.
(rumour has it we're flat broke after somebody spent the entire corp wallet on a 4-month backlog of ship reimbursements and can't even afford to buy spaceships for the tournament, but out internal propaganda ministers have gone to lengths to dispel such chat. inb4 whispous infracts me)
Thanks ry, now I don't feel so bad. We did manage to get some local smack practice in against a hilariously bad PL spy/troll on Sisi before Duality was up and running, which hopefully will carry us through the first rounds.
I would also like to assure the public that having two commentators from Rote will actually provide great entertainment value in our matches, because no one sh*ts on Rote pilots harder than Rote pilots. And of those, the most hardest sh***er is Bach by a long mile. NO BOUNDARIES. Should be fun.
Terrible alliances in a terrible tournament :cube:
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The worst.
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Damn...
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Pretty special Dram? Neat!
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Confirmed, 2nd place prize is a Covert Ops frigate using the Dramiel hull.
The Grand Prize is a Force Recon that uses the Ixion hull - best known as the hull used by Kruul.
Dev Blog with details! (http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/alliance-tournament-xi-tournament-prize-ships-and-more/)
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If I had a child, I would sell it for a Chemoas.
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WANT!
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These don't actually make me drool half as much as some of the previous ones, but it would appear to open the door for pirate faction prizes.
Common Blood Raider ahac :3
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This means all future AT will have prizes based on pirate factions ships :roll:
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The word we've heard is that Sadistica is intending to dissolve during or after the alliance tournament. Can't prove, obviously, but they have spontaneously decided to evac all their stuff from Aridia.
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So much Jihad lolfail.
Aside from my rageface all I can say is that I had to unavoidably IRL be out of town for the first two matches.
It seems someone thought they knew better than the ship lineups I put together over the last few weeks, and I feel incredibly vindicated that I was proven right.
Two and out, hilarious. I'd be laughing if I wasn't so angry about this being so embarrassing.
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You were out of town and someone changed the ship line-up on you?
Are you sure they weren't dicking you over on purpose?
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Sounds more like a "I know better than a guy that isnt even there, it shall be my moment of glory instead" ego trip to me.
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You were out of town and someone changed the ship line-up on you?
Are you sure they weren't dicking you over on purpose?
No it wasn't any interpersonal thing like that as far as I know. I don't want to fling internal mud here. There was a difference of opinion, my setups weren't used. Based on what i saw i think my loadouts would have done very well vs domi team and sensor damps, but such is life.
Im just disapointed that real life got in the way with unavoidable timing and that I was out and unable to be there in person to get to the bottom of things. I put entirely too much of my free time and mental energy (and plex) into a waste of time. Such is life!
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Hoping for a Rote vs. 4th District matchup. There's some good history there between us.
Next weekend.
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Hoping for a Rote vs. 4th District matchup. There's some good history there between us.
Next weekend.
You mean yesterday, I think. Happened already (http://www.rotekapelle.com/killboard/?a=kill_related&kll_id=88915). ;)
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Hoping for a Rote vs. 4th District matchup. There's some good history there between us.
Next weekend.
You mean yesterday, I think. Happened already (http://www.rotekapelle.com/killboard/?a=kill_related&kll_id=88915). ;)
Yep, my bad.
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You were out of town and someone changed the ship line-up on you?
Are you sure they weren't dicking you over on purpose?
No it wasn't any interpersonal thing like that as far as I know. I don't want to fling internal mud here. There was a difference of opinion, my setups weren't used. Based on what i saw i think my loadouts would have done very well vs domi team and sensor damps, but such is life.
Im just disapointed that real life got in the way with unavoidable timing and that I was out and unable to be there in person to get to the bottom of things. I put entirely too much of my free time and mental energy (and plex) into a waste of time. Such is life!
Is it too soon to ask for the awesome setups ?
/me is pretty sure there is blooders inside :P
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Hoping for a Rote vs. 4th District matchup. There's some good history there between us.
Next weekend.
You mean yesterday, I think. Happened already (http://www.rotekapelle.com/killboard/?a=kill_related&kll_id=88915). ;)
Yep, my bad.
To be perfectly honest, I would love nothing more than 4th crawling back up through the elimination bracket to meet Rote in the finals for a rematch. :D
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You were out of town and someone changed the ship line-up on you?
Are you sure they weren't dicking you over on purpose?
No it wasn't any interpersonal thing like that as far as I know. I don't want to fling internal mud here. There was a difference of opinion, my setups weren't used. Based on what i saw i think my loadouts would have done very well vs domi team and sensor damps, but such is life.
Im just disapointed that real life got in the way with unavoidable timing and that I was out and unable to be there in person to get to the bottom of things. I put entirely too much of my free time and mental energy (and plex) into a waste of time. Such is life!
Is it too soon to ask for the awesome setups ?
/me is pretty sure there is blooders inside :P
I don't know about awesome because the dogs of war are fickle, but high dps / high number of targets rush teams can do very well against static domi teams, especially if they are packing anti-drone smartbombs and MJD to close distance immediately. Rush teams are less worried about sensor damps because you are working at close range anyway. Idea is to run in as fast as possible, blap the high value enemies, and that removes the bulk of their dps.
I'm generally against low ship count/high value/ 'intricate' setups that rely on a perfect coordination of ewar / kiting / etc because unless you practice the hell out of them they can instantly fall apart as soon as something goes wrong or a lynchpin ship dies. Also if the enemy only has a few super ships to fight against they only have a few ships to focus all of their ewar and other nasties on. In general more ships = more slots and teams that field the full 12 do very well.
I could be totally wrong and I need to look at the previous matches though. Also I wasn't there, so my opinion counts for shit at the moment.
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You may have something. One of the closest matches on Sunday involved a Vindicator that simply bullied into a static Domi blob and started firing on everything; unfortunately, poor target calling doomed that attempt as well.
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Double hyperions with smartbombs, mjd, high blaster damage and 6 t1 blap cruisers doing about 450-500 dps each, with logi and token ewar frigs. sentries would have murdered a few of my ships on the charge, but there's no way to stop 8 fast moving dps ships fast enough before they get inside and start eating your lunch. large smartbombs on the domis to clear drones while everyone else zergs the primary. Its enough dps that if you get enough of them to the target you can push through a solo logi worth of reps in no time.
But no plan survives contact with the enemy! I like redundant,"dumb" teams that don't rely on single point failures.
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Sounds good but only danger I see is cap warfare on the side of the domis. Might weight pretty hard on your surviving DPS blasterboats. Maybe better to have cap boosters ready. Or cap batteries ... ? Mhhh
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I wonder how well a triple Vargur + support team would stand up against the Domi setups.
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Hoping for a Rote vs. 4th District matchup. There's some good history there between us.
Next weekend.
You mean yesterday, I think. Happened already (http://www.rotekapelle.com/killboard/?a=kill_related&kll_id=88915). ;)
Yep, my bad.
To be perfectly honest, I would love nothing more than 4th crawling back up through the elimination bracket to meet Rote in the finals for a rematch. :D
Fine by me. :yar:
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Hoping for a Rote vs. 4th District matchup. There's some good history there between us.
Next weekend.
You mean yesterday, I think. Happened already (http://www.rotekapelle.com/killboard/?a=kill_related&kll_id=88915). ;)
Yep, my bad.
To be perfectly honest, I would love nothing more than 4th crawling back up through the elimination bracket to meet Rote in the finals for a rematch. :D
Fine by me. :yar:
Lets hope and shoot some shit to get there 8)
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Guess not...
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Guess not...
I was hoping for a bit more :s Have not discourage over the years, its a nice little project. Now go Rote! awesome fight against VoC!
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In the post-tournament review, this has come up as one of the funnier moments:
(http://i.imgur.com/okfWdvB.jpg?1)
Let this be a warning to commentators and panel members: Don't make fun of the behind the scenes guys. :lol:
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Does someone have a .gif of Shadoo running around the studio after that final match?
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In the post-tournament review, this has come up as one of the funnier moments:
(http://i.imgur.com/okfWdvB.jpg?1)
Let this be a warning to commentators and panel members: Don't make fun of the behind the scenes guys. :lol:
Who is that?
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CCP Rise, formerly known as Kil2, is the one being referred to as CCP Douchebag in that shot.
CCP Fozzie is on the right.
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That's me on the left \o/
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No thats the mittani bach do you need to see a doctor?
*ducks, runs*
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Rote has an emerging tradition of calling Mittens "Bacchanalian" whenever we see him in Iceland. You know, just to annoy him. :P
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It got talked about in finals day. When your trolling gets discussed on the alliance tournament feed, I think you've won EVE.