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EVE-Online RP Discussion and Resources => EVE Character Development => Topic started by: Makkal on 13 Aug 2012, 10:11
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Blatant rip-off of Ava's thread.
Are there things you wish you'd done differently with your character?
How have you managed with or fixed elements of your character that you started to dislike after playing?
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The name of my main. Oh, god, the horrible, horrible name. I only got involved with the EVE RP scene about ten million SP in. If I had to do it all over again, knowing how annoyed I'd be now, I'd still recycle and start over.
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Played a male. Stuck with the stuff I initially loved about the Sebiestor instead of flitting about.
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There are days when I wonder what would have happened if I'd stuck with my very first character instead of cycling through a number of alts before making Vieve.
There are also days when I wonder what would have happened if I hadn't experimented with all those alts after I made Vieve. Not too often, though. I've had great experiences with them that would have very likely not been available to me had I stuck solely with her.
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Never biomassed Raze.
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Sometimes I wish I hadn't made Esna so hideously thorough and logical in his actions.
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Does 'start playing earlier' count?
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Sometimes I wish I hadn't made Esna so hideously thorough and logical in his actions.
You didnt.
Otherwise he would have trained Thermodynamics a lot earlier!
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The noble birth. Too convuluted once added to her background, takes the story into two different directions.
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Sometimes I wish I hadn't made Esna so hideously thorough and logical in his actions.
You didnt.
Otherwise he would have trained Thermodynamics a lot earlier!
Hurrrrrrr
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There are a few for me.
...not left EM
...left EM much earlier and joined one of the Angel groups
...not made so much of my RP about fighting Amarrians
...waited for longer before doing any relationship stuff with kala
...not spent two years cycling through characters and biomassing them every time I got bored (I would have like, 70m sp *sob*). On the other hand, this allowed me to experience more or less everything eve had to offer, even before I started Kala.
...spent more time thinking about a coherent back story before I joined GRD >.>
And a whole load of other stuff. But on the whole, I'm actually pretty happy with Kala.
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About the only thing that I was 'damnit if I could do it differently' was make Ghost a woman. But then I got a second account, and as I could not front the 30$ character transfer for Zegerth, conjured the Integrator Yeliana out of the ether. She was something of a logic experiment to see how a female Ghost would have been, but quite quickly took off into a completely different direction.
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About the only thing that I was 'damnit if I could do it differently' was make Ghost a woman.
Hmm... I'm pondering the impact this would have had on the number of illegitimate children Ghost would have unknowingly had.
Back on topic, I'd have done a bit differently, probably not played quite as fast and loose with the PF when creating this character, although it has then forced me to be pretty creative about keeping the basic character concept while trying to shoehorn it into the lore. It worked... sorta.
I also would have avoided having my alts talk to each other in public channels, leads to too many instances of (admittedly hilarious) alt-fails.
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Gotten into RP before joining STIM, which is, for the most part, a hilariously limiting RP career choice long-term.
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Poor Logan <3
You're welcome in Skadi anytime :D
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My one regret was creating an amazing backstory and not exploring it at all in-character. It's also the one thing I think I did absolutely right.
If you're roleplaying a CONCORD deep cover operative who got burned, you can't really say you're a deep cover operative that got burned.
:bear:
In the words of Malory Archer, "I was black ops, and let me tell ya'; that does not for a young boy a very happy Christmas make," or some such.
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My name. If I'd known RP in EVE existed or anything about Intaki I'd have picked a name that wasn't a D&D joke.
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I've gone through seven (maybe eight) generations of characters in a little over three years of playing and I roleplayed (or at least thought up backstories and played IC) with all of them. Each generation has been better than the last, and I feel like I'm probably at a point now where I could play my current main for a long time. This cycle of rebooting led me to explore the lore in all corners of New Eden and likewise to try out many different character concepts. I missed out on about two years of SP before creating Hoshisuuvi, but skillpoints ain't everything. I wouldn't have done anything different.
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Poor Logan <3
You're welcome in Skadi anytime :D
Hah, you just want to fly that Machariel....
also, I'm probably not active enough to get into Skadi :lol:
To clarify a bit, I'm not sad I am in STIM since I love the corp and the pvp and pretty much everything about it minus a few titan sized dramallama's that wander through every now and again.
I just wish that I had gotten into RP before I joined STIM as starting as a newbie RPer from an Alliance with a pretty substantial RP history can be quite challenging. Not insurmountable, but just a few feet under base level instead of at base level.
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No regrets here. Quite happy with my character, and how it has developed.
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Poor Logan <3
You're welcome in Skadi anytime :D
Hah, you just want to fly that Machariel....
also, I'm probably not active enough to get into Skadi :lol:
To clarify a bit, I'm not sad I am in STIM since I love the corp and the pvp and pretty much everything about it minus a few titan sized dramallama's that wander through every now and again.
I just wish that I had gotten into RP before I joined STIM as starting as a newbie RPer from an Alliance with a pretty substantial RP history can be quite challenging. Not insurmountable, but just a few feet under base level instead of at base level.
Well, I did something similar. After finishing the tutorial, I was sat in dock in Pator, wondering what to do next, and having a look at the corp offices. Gradient's caught my eye, and then I came up with Kala's backstory. I'd never done RP of any kind before joining GRD, and considering the nine year history of that corp, I probably threw myself into the deep end a little :P
And yes. I can fly machariels now. :twisted:
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I have a fictional life for the sole purpose of escapism. I wanted a perfect little sheltered life where the extent of awful crap happening was well within my own control. My regret, of course, is that most of the people I have chosen to devote serious time to playing with have taken a proper dump all over that. Therefore, I'd say I would've liked to have been a lot more selective about the people I shared my time with, and perhaps it would've been best to play entirely in a bubble, where my only interactions outside of the occasional pleasantries were with my own alts.
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...not left Gradient, buuuuut, if I did...
...not simply given up on TRA, instead, laid the law down
...what I said in other thread, ie, no connection with slavery
...never trained a bunch of science and industry skills
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...never give you up
...never let you down
...never turn around and desert you
[spoiler]srs answer: I'm actually quite happy with Katrina so far. I've managed to solve some major issues with her character and the way I play her, and I am quite comfortable.
I do sometimes wonder if she'd be better received if she wasn't in a homosexual relationship - but honestly I feel quite blessed to have found a friend and RP buddy like Simca. I can't really wish I hadn't stumbled on that.
BTW, no nobody has taken issue with SimKat, but each time someone says lolspacelesbians in general, I can't help but feel a little ashamed.[/spoiler]
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BTW, no nobody has taken issue with SimKat, but each time someone says lolspacelesbians in general, I can't help but feel a little ashamed.[/spoiler]
I would say that's not because a lot of people turn their characters into spacelesbians for the sake of sexual nerd fantasies that there can't also be a few genuine interesting ones.=)
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I wish I had put more thought into the name. It's actually a reference to the two WoW characters I had played that day. Though I wonder if all the drama my character has been involved in is actually a self-fulfilling prophecy that comes from being Miss Strife.
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I would say that's not because a lot of people turn their characters into spacelesbians for the sake of sexual nerd fantasies that there can't also be a few genuine interesting ones.=)
I'd say that the explicit sex fantasy characters are a small minority, anyway. Seems to me the Space-Lesbian Situation is analogous to the tragedy of the commons. I can't really blame people for doing things they find interesting, or even making similar choices in similar situations. The great majority of the individual cases are okay to actually quite interesting; it's just that the sheer numbers you end up with makes for strange situations and much eye-rolling.
Somewhat off-topic, though. Sorry.
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Jev is spot-on with the issue about "space lesbians": I rarely could criticize any individual case, but the sheer volume gets a little overwhelming. I have a few theories about why this happens, more than just "lol nerds and 2girlsdoinit", but they'd be off-topic here.
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...Wish I hadn't made Rek a slave, even if to a kind Holder. His eccentricity would have been better explained by having been born in the Republic to a middle-class family, where he would have been sheltered from the Minmatar-Amarr conflict. This would have set up a more logical progression to his disillusionment with the war and later turn to Sansha's Nation.
I partially regret leaving TS-F/SHARE; Sansha RP satisfies my inner transhumanist nerd. That being said, my eventual moving on to TRA lead to a much better grasp on how to PvP, good RP (for a time), and excellent OOC friendships that extend into real life.
Skill-wise I wish I had specialized in combat stuff :p
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You can always come home, Rek. we left your room the way it was when you moved out.
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I sometimes wish I hadn't given up on Astropolitan Front. Especially when I now and again read about someone who wanted to join it, but when they looked, it was gone. That triggers some serious feelings of regret sometimes.
That being said, I've had a lot of fun in the Sansha RP scene. It's made up of some thoroughly nice and truly awesome people.
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Hmm. Second regret: playing a character that everyone assumed was a lesbian when, in fact, she was just interested in people (male or female) with specific outlooks on life. Strangely, the only ones that openly fit the particular criteria were female personas. There were a couple male characters she was attracted too for these reasons, but you know, they never once paid her any attention; or when they did, made it clear that other criteria that made them unsuitable for a relationship would crop up.
OOC, in regards to her sexuality I would just say, "Yeah, she's a lesbian, lol." Inside I kind of died a little each time, because I had created a pretty deep character that everyone just reduced to 'look, just another space lesbian'.
Other issues with that character aside, my favorite RP experience was my character "coming out" to a character she liked. I knew the response it would get. Obviously she was going to be shot down. I had done enough research to know that the other character was involved in another relationship, etc. It was just so awesome because it took years to get the character into a position to ask, and a few months to set up a situation where it would be appropriate to ask.
I've just always enjoyed a challenge, and playing something interesting and just enough out of the norm to make even social interaction a chore held a certain fascination for a time.
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For Makkal: So far, so good.
Jev is spot-on with the issue about "space lesbians": I rarely could criticize any individual case, but the sheer volume gets a little overwhelming. I have a few theories about why this happens, more than just "lol nerds and 2girlsdoinit", but they'd be off-topic here.
That's how I feel about complaints about space lesbians.
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I have no regrets playing previous characters and I wouldn't do anything differently even if I find no motivation or interest in wearing their masks. What I did learn though is:
- It's good to be grounded: There's nothing wrong in being somewhat 'normal' and having a character that holds strong ideals or convictions, whatever they may be, even if they are a terrifying demigod. The struggle to retain ones own sense of self and humanity in the face of overwhelming violence and destruction can be an interesting exploration. The total loss is a pit that can be difficult to dig a character out of.
- Simplicity is fun: Complication can be good but an over-complication of events and circumstances can be difficult to resolve, especially when trying to figure out how to make all the pieces fit properly in their place.
- Familiarity doesn't always breed contempt: Whilst it's interesting to explore a character that in some respects be polar opposites in a variety of ways to the player using them, there's a risk of having the character become such an antithesis that they are reprehensible to play. At times it's good to have some sort of familiar threads to pull in a character so that things are comfortable.
I wouldn't do anything differently because all my attempts to self-destroy my own character/s due to the amount of loathing I had for them as a player actually led to all sorts of interesting interactions and the chance to run off and experiment with all sorts of things until now I'm in the position I can use that experience to fully realize characters that I do actually find interesting, engaging and fun to interact with.
That or I'm just slightly deranged and/or insane. I don't know some days.
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There is another thing I noticed, and not sure if it works for everyone or if it is just me. But explorating eve RP and sometimes complex political setting through the eyes of someone else actually did not lead to the usual IC/OOC bleedover where the OOC player starts to speak through the character ICly, but to the opposite actually : being more and more influenced and tainted by the character itself, when said character starts to get enough depth and gets strong and well defined enough to make her believable and her opinions enticing enough.
That is somewhat disturbing.
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There is another thing I noticed, and not sure if it works for everyone or if it is just me. But explorating eve RP and sometimes complex political setting through the eyes of someone else actually did not lead to the usual IC/OOC bleedover where the OOC player starts to speak through the character ICly, but to the opposite actually : being more and more influenced and tainted by the character itself, when said character starts to get enough depth and gets strong and well defined enough to make her believable and her opinions enticing enough.
That is somewhat disturbing.
I can certainly empathize with that.
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There is another thing I noticed, and not sure if it works for everyone or if it is just me. But explorating eve RP and sometimes complex political setting through the eyes of someone else actually did not lead to the usual IC/OOC bleedover where the OOC player starts to speak through the character ICly, but to the opposite actually : being more and more influenced and tainted by the character itself, when said character starts to get enough depth and gets strong and well defined enough to make her believable and her opinions enticing enough.
That is somewhat disturbing.
This. So much this.
The scariest moments I've had with Katla are the ones where I'm looking at some of the arguments I'm putting in her mouth and thinking: "This actually makes sense."
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Hmmm...
Rok - Specialised.... i have generalised his skillset FAR too much... he could have been an industrial god by now... :(
Dilaro - Not much really... the whole EoM thing was fun and gave him a bit of a story... even if it is a crazy one.
Yuni - Thought more about how to make her as a character before jumping onto IGS... those first few weeks were... messy. still, the character concept fell into place pretty quickly, and the basics have always remained the same. now.. how do i get hold of an infested CONCORD battleship..... :P
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There is another thing I noticed, and not sure if it works for everyone or if it is just me. But explorating eve RP and sometimes complex political setting through the eyes of someone else actually did not lead to the usual IC/OOC bleedover where the OOC player starts to speak through the character ICly, but to the opposite actually : being more and more influenced and tainted by the character itself, when said character starts to get enough depth and gets strong and well defined enough to make her believable and her opinions enticing enough.
That is somewhat disturbing.
You talking about your own character? Not you as Lyn, I mean, just in general.
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In my case mostly, but I bet some people's opinions can get tainted by other characters too, and I have probably been at some unconscious level.
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In which case Lyn...yeah...I think Seriphyn has had a creepy influence on my view of democracy/free society. Especially that the Fed exists in a world where democracy is not the expected standard, as it is IRL.
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To paraphrase a quote from the best tv series of all time:
"You don't play Dungeons and Dragons for so many years and not learn a little something about courage."
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Like some others here, I might have looked at a different name. I find it difficult to take my character seriously when its named after a breakfast cereal.
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The great thing, Graan, is that most of us dont know that! (or we didn't until you just now brought it up!) \o/
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Oh, why not. Things I wish I could have done differently.
Not make Sai such a clone of RL me in some things. There are so many things I could have done if I hadn't made Sai as timid etc etc as I was at the time. Whenever I get back, I was hoping to sorta change some of that, but, eh, we'll see.
Not come up with such overblown IC reasons for Sai taking a break from piloting. I'm glad that this time I just said she's going planetside. I'd probably have to biomass her otherwise.
Ehhhh, yeah I can say this. I wish I had really stepped on getting into a carrier so I could have embarrassed Evanda IC before we both left EM. I had been working on that plotline forever it seemed.
I don't regret Sai being a space lesbian, since at the time I didn't know about lolspacelesbians, and I think I tried to play her straight (oh that was bad), but I do rather regret making RP alts to fill up roles of friend or lover since then some other player couldn't fill those roles. And on the same note, I regret that Sai is still my main, since those RP alts I made were a lot more fun to play with (at least for me, *smile*), but Sai still has all of the skill points, so its far easier to have her do something rather than waiting three months for an alt to train up the skills.
And I regret never having enough time to do things properly. Hopefully that will change whenever I get back.