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EVE-Online RP Discussion and Resources => EVE OOC Summit => Topic started by: Louella Dougans on 25 Jan 2015, 08:30
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I believe that much of the existing RP groups are almost invisible in their doings outside of the area in which they operate, and that this gives a false impression, regarding the "state of the RP community", or other such measurements.
I believe it is easy to assume that there are no RP groups, because those that do exist, do not have a high profile in such places as backstage or the IGS. This is exacerbated by timezone differences.
As an example, Serpentis themed RP. I know of one group - that of Joshua Foiritain's Coreli Corp, but do not know their ingame area of activity, or timezone, and don't immediately recall any major posts on the forums.
If I was not aware of Coreli Corp, it would initially appear that "Serpentis RP is dead".
I think a lack of visibility by various groups on the IGS, leads to similar conclusions - that "X RP is dead", when it is not really the case.
So, for visibility of different groups, what are the ones that you are aware of, and how visible are they ? What can or should RP people do ? Should they post more on the IGS and backstage ?
Amarr - PIE, Aegis Militia, SFRIM - several visible groups.
Gallente - ??? - I don't know what's going on with Gallente RP these days, I see Julianus Soter from time to time, and a few regularly posting IGS people, but I don't really know what's what.
Caldari - Stormcrows, Pyre Falcons, several other Caldari orientated RP groups, that are visible and visibly Caldari.
Minmatar - Gradient, TRIAD, Ushra'Khan - They're not as visible as they used to be.
Gurista/Sansha - I don't know what's going on with these, not since Veto and TS-F went inactive.
Blood Raiders - several visible groups.
Angel/Serpentis/Syndicate - Coreli Corp, Stillwater, don't recall any others offhand.
SoE, ORE, Mordus, other minor factions - I don't know of any visible groups associated with these.
So, when I occasionally see someone new to RP, and they say, are there any X faction RP groups, I can sometimes be unable to name any.
Fill in the blanks, if you can.
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Isn't there a CCP list of this sort of thing on the EVE Fiction Forums?
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There is a list of which corps self-professed to align with certain factions. It doesn't say whether those corps are visible or active. Or if they are still functional, from what I see.
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I think I-RED is quite visible and they're Caldari aligned.
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Psh nobody likes those guys!
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There is a list of which corps self-professed to align with certain factions. It doesn't say whether those corps are visible or active. Or if they are still functional, from what I see.
Activity/functionality of the corp and the accuracy of their posting has always been the responsibility of the corps adding themselves to the list. My only responsibility is keeping the list in the OP up to date. Which I haven't done in a few weeks but I'm dealing with a lot of shit right now.
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I've seen a couple of SoE corps
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This is actually a topic I'm pretty interested in. I had a long discussion Sami the only day about factional RP. Our discussion was a bit more specific but the nature of the topic was basically the insular nature of factional RP. While me and Sami discussed many things we both came to the conclusion that at least for some (Gallente, and Minmatar, specifically) the playerbase was currently simply to small to sustain the kind of "In-House" content generation that factional rp creates, and that would be needed to keep the average RP'er contented.
But more specifically on topic, the issue I perceive at least is that factional bodies, due to the current nature of Eve (specifically the Factional Warfare keeping factions directly opposed with each other,) that maintaining a constantly visible public presence that new players could see (I.E. Summit, IGS) is incredibly difficult. In part because public venues like the Summit more often then not force opposing factions to come to blows, and partly because once a faction begins generating a highly consumable amount of "In-House" content that players simply stop going "Out and about" to find some.
Of course also I think this comes to to a level of etiquette on individual rp'ers. "Politics and Religion are best not brought up amongst polite company." Unfortunately for the Summit, this is rarely the case. Given the sharp divide between each factions political/religion/demographic frameworks talking about Politics or Religion is a sure fired way to get into an argument. Win/Lose/Or Draw (But honestly everyone loses) one or two factions are generally dog piled and this leads to a gradual retreat from the public sphere.
For example I think the rapid growth of both PYRE and Scope Works, must partly be attributed to the fact that they are both unhindered by these factional barriers and capable of giving their members digestible content both in RP and OOC'ly. To a lesser extent Repracor too has seen an rather solid influx of members since its inception from all spectrum's and I think the reasons are very similar. The looser affiliation one takes with a specific faction the less baggage one has to take on in day to day interactions.
Of course there is nothing stopping someone from choosing a faction and simply avoiding "Hot-button" or contested topics, but with the current state of things, in many cases the issue is forced by someone with less-than-polite intentions.
Anyway, my two-cents. For what they are worth.
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Regarding Viz post.
As I'm trying to create an absolutely neutral hostility free place to rp, I would welcome people visiting me if only to steal others away for factional rp. If I can facilitate this in anyway let me know. I may not be part of any of the factional communities but if my utterly neutral rp corp can help support others rp I'll do my best.
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Kat Roleplay is the only Legitimate Roleplay. It is omnifactional, omnisexual, omnipotent, omniscient, omnivorous, and omniomni-al.
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.....omnivorous....
Can confirm after careful case-studying.
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Psh nobody likes those guys!
They'd probably be more likable if the got off their butts and.generated some content.
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Wow rude.
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From what I can observe, RP seems very fragmented, divided into groups (as mentioned earlier)
The Aurora News thingie actually started as an attempt to bring about more RP events, from the thought 'RP are public stories, giving them a publication would give RP events more credit, even if it's by a player-run news agency'
through this, I did meet plenty of secluded RP groups. Minmatar & Gallente RP aren't dead, they're just very secluded & isolationist (and small).
Amarr & Caldari on the other hand have a vibrant outgoing RP community, taking the spotlight with a variety of public events.
On the Gallente, most RP among them involves Intaki, as the whole background of the race & system offers alot to work with.
With the Minmatar, Ushra'Khan does events, albeit they rarely announce them in public. Dunno about other groups tho.
Most public Minmatar seem to have dissapeared tho, just like the public Gallente faces, giving the impression it's dead (I do admit, the state of Gallente RP & Minmatar RP isn't healthy, public faces are needed to draw in new RP crowds to their respective factions.
In that regard, most pirate NPC factions have a good set of followers, despite them lacking figures, however, dedicated RP'ers are a rare find among most pirate NPC factions (save Bloodraiders/Sansha/Angels, but they do have public faces)
Something to keep in mind, one doesn't have to be an RP'er to organize events for their faction, Live Event moderators often runs them for the Gallente, rallying people for causes, celebrating Federation day, organizing a memorial event for Caldari prime battle etc. I feel events like this could be an interesting place to entice folks into RP, as they are naturally already interested in stories revolving around their factions & often act IC already during these events.
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Psh nobody likes those guys!
They'd probably be more likable if the got off their butts and.generated some content.
Oh but we have been for 6 years. ;)
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SOE aligned corp: Sisters of Eve eXpeditonary.
Intaki Liberation front seems active, not sure if they're syndicate aligned, though.
Also, there's this page (https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Category:Roleplay_Corporations) on the eve-wiki, but it also lists some dead corps.
As for what roleplayers can do so there's more visible RP...I dunno...
Not attacking eachother with "they only post on IGS"?
Avoid saying that "You can't interact with that." when it's not true?
Stop implying that if it's not pew-pew/can't be shot, it's not good/meaningful RP?
Edit: Active Mordu Corp thread on this forum (http://backstage.eve-inspiracy.com/index.php?topic=4459.0).
CONCORD: Drengist Intergalactic Liberal Enterprises Ltd.[D.I.L.E.L]
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SOE aligned corp: Sisters of Eve eXpeditonary.
Intaki Liberation front seems active, not sure if they're syndicate aligned, though.
Also, there's this page (https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Category:Roleplay_Corporations) on the eve-wiki, but it also lists some dead corps.
As for what roleplayers can do so there's more visible RP...I dunno...
Not attacking eachother with "they only post on IGS"?
Avoid saying that "You can't interact with that." when it's not true?
Stop implying that if it's not pew-pew/can't be shot, it's not good/meaningful RP?
Edit: Active Mordu Corp thread on this forum (http://backstage.eve-inspiracy.com/index.php?topic=4459.0).
CONCORD: Drengist Intergalactic Liberal Enterprises Ltd.[D.I.L.E.L]
All of my fucking this.
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As for what roleplayers can do so there's more visible RP...I dunno...
Not attacking eachother with "they only post on IGS"?
Avoid saying that "You can't interact with that." when it's not true?
Stop implying that if it's not pew-pew/can't be shot, it's not good/meaningful RP?
There are, of course, two sides to this tale. RP that involves and creates content that other players can ACTUALLY interact with and leads to undockings is much, much, more meaningful to the wider community than RP that occurs between pre-invited participants in private comms channels.
For example, when Morwen ran that Caldari Prime charity, some people donated iskies and some people flew freighters and indies full of needed supplies to the various stations and contracted them to her. It should be obvious how this is superior to shiptoasting on the IGS, in terms of involvement (anyone who can donate ISK or run supplies can participate in a meaningful way).
That said, channel RP is certainly NOT doinitwrong. There is definitely a place for it and it can be a great deal of fun - IMO it just shouldn't be used as the sole place to RP things that ought to have an In Space component - such as colonies, fleets etc.
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What Pieter said.
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As for what roleplayers can do so there's more visible RP...I dunno...
Not attacking eachother with "they only post on IGS"?
Avoid saying that "You can't interact with that." when it's not true?
Stop implying that if it's not pew-pew/can't be shot, it's not good/meaningful RP?
There are, of course, two sides to this tale. RP that involves and creates content that other players can ACTUALLY interact with and leads to undockings is much, much, more meaningful to the wider community than RP that occurs between pre-invited participants in private comms channels.
For example, when Morwen ran that Caldari Prime charity, some people donated iskies and some people flew freighters and indies full of needed supplies to the various stations and contracted them to her. It should be obvious how this is superior to shiptoasting on the IGS, in terms of involvement (anyone who can donate ISK or run supplies can participate in a meaningful way).
That said, channel RP is certainly NOT doinitwrong. There is definitely a place for it and it can be a great deal of fun - IMO it just shouldn't be used as the sole place to RP things that ought to have an In Space component - such as colonies, fleets etc.
Of all the people who'd agree with you in a split second, you know I'd be right there with you Pieter. However, I personally just don't buy into every RP arc or story or ...whatever NEEDING to have an in-space component. You were involved in a lot of my arcs and such. They didn't have a space component at all. But they were fun, engaging, emotional, and added what people told me was good content.
Now if someone's saying like.. 'hurr i shall dunk ze [insert bad guise here],' and does nothing but post about how they're gonna get them grr....then..yeaaa....
Even for like, rescue events, like when we all went over Caldari Prime right before the titan event, that needed a space component to really make it shine. And it did. And it was gud. So gud.
But not every RP story ought to have a space component, imho. Not every tale is told with the roar of a thruster and the thunder of a gun.
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Of all the people who'd agree with you in a split second, you know I'd be right there with you Pieter. However, I personally just don't buy into every RP arc or story or ...whatever NEEDING to have an in-space component. You were involved in a lot of my arcs and such. They didn't have a space component at all. But they were fun, engaging, emotional, and added what people told me was good content.
Now if someone's saying like.. 'hurr i shall dunk ze [insert bad guise here],' and does nothing but post about how they're gonna get them grr....then..yeaaa....
Even for like, rescue events, like when we all went over Caldari Prime right before the titan event, that needed a space component to really make it shine. And it did. And it was gud. So gud.
But not every RP story ought to have a space component, imho. Not every tale is told with the roar of a thruster and the thunder of a gun.
That's not what Pieter is saying. He's saying that in order for it to be relevant to the larger community, it should contain an in-space element. And by the wider community he means that the community outside of Backstage. The RPers and almost RPers that we don't interact with on a regular basis. The ones that can bolster this community and make it bigger and stronger.
Edit: fixed quote tag out of sensitivity to Morwen's OCD.
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Ooooooh ok when you put it that way, that makes more sense. Something they can easily just jump right into without having to channel lurk. OK I can agree on that. I still hold it isn't the only way to do it, but it's definitely a strong and accessible one.
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Totally agree with Pieter. There's nothing wrong with channels and staying docked and all, but you can't expect that to have any impact on communities other than the ones in the channel already.
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Wonder how a goal oriented NPSI RP fleet would go? It could focus on expeditions and fighting sleepers or some such? Like a reinvigoration of Fleet Coordination or a more active, strat op focused part of AJ?
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/me jumps on the 'agree with Pieter' wagon
A big NPSI RP fleet would be fun, but it wont be inclusive to all due to factions loyalties and such.
That said...two big RP fleets gunning for each other...will never happen but if it did...
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I mean with all this ~spooky~ Sleeper and possible Talocan stuff going down, gives people something to shoot at? Maybe?
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Yeah, a lot of the RP I do is in private and very limited in scope and audience. I'm not saying that's wrong - but whilst I might RP dinner with the family or movie night with Samipants or drinking with Anskek most in-space RP gets done in-space.
And that's good. That's great.
But, I totally get what Anslo is cagey about. I'm not claiming there's any way to RP that is the 'right' way to RP, I'm just saying that unless RP is truly open and consensual, it doesn't really seem relevant to the greater community.
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movie night with Samipants.
I'M TELLING DES.
But you're right. Like...maybe paper and pen style with a dice to roll for actions but let's be real that'd get abused.
YOU ROLLED AN 18
NO I DIDNT
YES I DID
NU UH BUTT HEAD
YA HUH PENIS EARS
etc etc etc.
TBH just need a common enemy. Give the people that, and ye shall findeth thine RP group flourishing.
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Think you might find it hard to unite everyone against any common enemy when not even the Sansha pulled that off. For some of us, the Empire/Federation/State/Republic/Guris/Angels/Whatever is a greater enemy than some wooOooOooOOOoOOooo space magic hurrdrones from whereveristan, w-space.
It's the way of the sandbox. You'll never have unity and that's an absolutely fantastic thing because it'd be boring as all fuck.
/me jumps on the 'agree with Pieter' wagon
A big NPSI RP fleet would be fun, but it wont be inclusive to all due to factions loyalties and such.
That said...two big RP fleets gunning for each other...will never happen but if it did...
... oh, don't strike down your hopes just yet. Disclaimer: Don't get them up either. There are very minor ideas aired in very minor circles, that's all.
Anyway Anslo, on the subject of non-engageable. There is a lot of it out there, even if you don't agree with that. Most of it doesn't even come to the attention of people who might engage, due to private channels etc etc. Some of it is not engageable due a simple thing called being IC. An Amarrian Holder burning Blooders alive might be a fun event and all, but it's not exactly something that'd be engageable for a lot of people due to either a distaste for that kind of thing or because their characters would have to do/say things that'd just make it a bloody dramafest and ruin the whole thing.
Same reason I can't have Miz go to the LockStockWhatever place. Some guests there have been known to say/do things that'd flat out require the removal of their larynx with a shattered whiskey glass, and that's just drama that shouldn't happen.
There are a lot of stumbling blocks to get past for a lot of RP, which makes it unengageable in some cases.
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Think you might find it hard to unite everyone against any common enemy when not even the Sansha pulled that off. For some of us, the Empire/Federation/State/Republic/Guris/Angels/Whatever is a greater enemy than some wooOooOooOOOoOOooo space magic hurrdrones from whereveristan, w-space. It's the way of the sandbox. You'll never have unity and that's an absolutely fantastic thing because it'd be boring as all fuck.
Sleepers and Talocan. That's cool. If someone people don't want to come they don't have to. But letting IC ~rules~ prevent you (not YOU, just you in general) from having fun? Fuck dat noise imo.
Anyway Anslo, on the subject of non-engageable. There is a lot of it out there, even if you don't agree with that. Most of it doesn't even come to the attention of people who might engage, due to private channels etc etc. Some of it is not engageable due a simple thing called being IC. An Amarrian Holder burning Blooders alive might be a fun event and all, but it's not exactly something that'd be engageable for a lot of people due to either a distaste for that kind of thing or because their characters would have to do/say things that'd just make it a bloody dramafest and ruin the whole thing.
I get that. But thos-engagsome extreme examples. There are always non-engageable themes for RP for everyone to get involved in too. There is always a solution \o/
Same reason I can't have Miz go to the LockStockWhatever place. Some guests there have been known to say/do things that'd flat out require the removal of their larynx with a shattered whiskey glass, and that's just drama that shouldn't happen.
Again, that's fine. I fully realize that this is the case for some peeps and I'm not saying to change it. I guess my audience for this idea is more for RPers outside this community, be them new or old, so that they see they aren't alone.
There are a lot of stumbling blocks to get past for a lot of RP, which makes it unengageable in some cases.
Good thing I got a lot of jack hammers.
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YOU ROLLED AN 18
NO I DIDNT
YES I DID
NU UH BUTT HEAD
YA HUH PENIS EARS
I wish EVE had an in-game dice function.
And no, not necessarily for RPG rolling like that.
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We have done events in the past where we use a dice roll room, for in space events. Like hacking a satellite was D20 + Hacking Skill Level vs TN. :)
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OK that's pretty baller. If you can share dice roll views like that then that could totally work for more public non-pvp RP.
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There is a list of which corps self-professed to align with certain factions. It doesn't say whether those corps are visible or active. Or if they are still functional, from what I see.
Activity/functionality of the corp and the accuracy of their posting has always been the responsibility of the corps adding themselves to the list. My only responsibility is keeping the list in the OP up to date. Which I haven't done in a few weeks but I'm dealing with a lot of shit right now.
I ment to refer to the CCP list in the EVE fiction forums.
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My earlier statements were referring to the visibility of RP groups in "the community", not the relevance/engageability of RP groups to the (greater) community. It was not my intention to derail the thread in that direction.
My statements referred to groups that do have at least some relevance/engageability, yet are labelled as not having those characteristics, if that was not clear. This can decrease their visibility to (semi-)private channels.
I don't see things happening in space really increasing that visibility too much (apart from those CCP or IGS advertised ones) by itself. Well, I guess it would for random passers-by, but not for someone actively looking for RP. I'm pretty sure that I don't know about 99% of the stuff that goes around in space RP-wise, and what I do know is usually because it's mentioned in a channel. Even just spotting known RP-ers in local is somewhat of a rarity for me unless Ché visits clubs/events, or even if he visits clubs, thanks to interbus/holo (No offense, I use interbus/holo now and then.)
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The last time I did RP-in-space that involved other people (before Kor's thing the other weekend), I got whined at afterwards on this forum because no RP got generated from it.
Ironic, because I was never contacted IC about it and as far as I was concerned at the time, I had made my IC action and it would have required me to break character to say anything about it without being contacted first - that is, it was their turn to make a move. Morwen is generally not someone who sees the need to go crowing about all the little things she does in space unless someone actually asks. That doesn't mean she doesn't do things.
It just means that nobody bothers to try interacting.
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/me interacts with Mor, passionately
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/me interacts with Mor, passionately
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Louella makes a very important point.
VISIBILITY IS ESSENTIAL
If you want people to interact with you, you must make your presence known, and you must do it in such a way people can interact with you. You must create 'points of interaction'
If you do the RP equivalent of lurking in a wormhole in a cloaked vessel is not going to get you anything.
The RP equivalent of sitting in an FW plex visible is better. Better still if you are not flying a Garmur.
The RP equivalent of an important Station timer is even better, because it *will* generate interaction.
So, please make your RP visible to others. And make your RP vulnerable and not Garmurish. You'll get more interaction.
A lot of RP conversations I do is over local or generally accessible channels, because it increase exposure and thereby opportunities for interaction.
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I like seeing Merdaneth in local. I also like seeing Merdaneth's capsule on d-scan. :lol:
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Louella makes a very important point.
VISIBILITY IS ESSENTIAL
If you want people to interact with you, you must make your presence known, and you must do it in such a way people can interact with you. You must create 'points of interaction'
If you do the RP equivalent of lurking in a wormhole in a cloaked vessel is not going to get you anything.
The RP equivalent of sitting in an FW plex visible is better. Better still if you are not flying a Garmur.
The RP equivalent of an important Station timer is even better, because it *will* generate interaction.
So, please make your RP visible to others. And make your RP vulnerable and not Garmurish. You'll get more interaction.
A lot of RP conversations I do is over local or generally accessible channels, because it increase exposure and thereby opportunities for interaction.
All good points
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Louella makes a very important point.
VISIBILITY IS ESSENTIAL
If you want people to interact with you, you must make your presence known, and you must do it in such a way people can interact with you. You must create 'points of interaction'
If you do the RP equivalent of lurking in a wormhole in a cloaked vessel is not going to get you anything.
The RP equivalent of sitting in an FW plex visible is better. Better still if you are not flying a Garmur.
The RP equivalent of an important Station timer is even better, because it *will* generate interaction.
So, please make your RP visible to others. And make your RP vulnerable and not Garmurish. You'll get more interaction.
A lot of RP conversations I do is over local or generally accessible channels, because it increase exposure and thereby opportunities for interaction.
All good points
Staying In-Character all the time is also a good way to generate some interaction. You are basically advertising yourself as being a roleplayer when you say IC things and do IC things everywhere.
I did not follow what I preached though and I should fix that.
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I wish EVE had an in-game dice function.
And no, not necessarily for RPG rolling like that.
I remember DAoC not only had a dice function, it had a card draw function, both hidden and open
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I wish EVE had an in-game dice function.
And no, not necessarily for RPG rolling like that.
I remember DAoC not only had a dice function, it had a card draw function, both hidden and open
I was thinking about a similar thing recently. From a shadowrun MUD (which is completly text based) I remembered a /prove chat funktion. Example: "/prove Infomorph Psychology" would give a public chat result like "Haria Haritimado proves Infomorph Psychology on level 4". I think it would be an easy way to involve character stats in roleplaying, especially when it comes to events where confrontation against NPC or challenging circumstances are involved. Similar, a /dice chat command would also be nice.
Such ideas seem easy to implement to me. Maybe we could suggest it to CCP in some way?
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I wish EVE had an in-game dice function.
And no, not necessarily for RPG rolling like that.
I remember DAoC not only had a dice function, it had a card draw function, both hidden and open
I was thinking about a similar thing recently. From a shadowrun MUD (which is completly text based) I remembered a /prove chat funktion. Example: "/prove Infomorph Psychology" would give a public chat result like "Haria Haritimado proves Infomorph Psychology on level 4". I think it would be an easy way to involve character stats in roleplaying, especially when it comes to events where confrontation against NPC or challenging circumstances are involved. Similar, a /dice chat command would also be nice.
Such ideas seem easy to implement to me. Maybe we could suggest it to CCP in some way?
I feel pretty safe saying that it's probably been tried before. Mos of the large scale RP events with NPCs and combat etc that I've been in has generally been more of an honor system without rolls and just making it believable and fun for everyone involved.
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There was, for a while, a site specifically designed for in-EVE browsing that used the ingame browser to give a secure login that would generate a page you could do rolls on. Anyone else could then get the page's URL and see the results of those rolls.
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With the Minmatar, Ushra'Khan does events, albeit they rarely announce them in public. Dunno about other groups tho.
I did my Midsummer event this year; one other Minmatar (my boyfriend, fyi) and about five non-matari showed up; no one from Gradient, no one from U'K, no one from anywhere. I advertised it for weeks, and have done it every year for three years.
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Louella makes a very important point.
VISIBILITY IS ESSENTIAL
If you want people to interact with you, you must make your presence known, and you must do it in such a way people can interact with you. You must create 'points of interaction'
If you do the RP equivalent of lurking in a wormhole in a cloaked vessel is not going to get you anything.
The RP equivalent of sitting in an FW plex visible is better. Better still if you are not flying a Garmur.
The RP equivalent of an important Station timer is even better, because it *will* generate interaction.
So, please make your RP visible to others. And make your RP vulnerable and not Garmurish. You'll get more interaction.
A lot of RP conversations I do is over local or generally accessible channels, because it increase exposure and thereby opportunities for interaction.
What would you have me do to be more visible? Maybe put up billboards along freeways?
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With the Minmatar, Ushra'Khan does events, albeit they rarely announce them in public. Dunno about other groups tho.
I did my Midsummer event this year; one other Minmatar (my boyfriend, fyi) and about five non-matari showed up; no one from Gradient, no one from U'K, no one from anywhere. I advertised it for weeks, and have done it every year for three years.
I think I was unsubbed at that time? Havo would've shown up just for Drama and because he likes/respects Ava. Her combat ability and her palpable frustration with the Republic's status quo have held Enkil Akheteru's attention for years (but you know that already, I think?).
Also, that sig. omg lol
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What would you have me do to be more visible? Maybe put up billboards along freeways?
Ava was plenty visible.
Unfortunately, the rest of the Minmatar community has not been.
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*slithers around the thread*
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With the Minmatar, Ushra'Khan does events, albeit they rarely announce them in public. Dunno about other groups tho.
I did my Midsummer event this year; one other Minmatar (my boyfriend, fyi) and about five non-matari showed up; no one from Gradient, no one from U'K, no one from anywhere. I advertised it for weeks, and have done it every year for three years.
Guess I just didn't pay attention on Liuni, kalo just recently got Resubed.
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What would you have me do to be more visible? Maybe put up billboards along freeways?
Ava Billboards Best Billboards
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I'm not sure if I was subbed at the time, but Ava (IC) has made it perfectly clear what she thinks of Miz, heh.
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So... I am very new so weighing in on this is probably a bad idea, but I am just that much of a rebel. :yar:
One way which might help get people into RP, that aren't like myself deliberately looking for it, is to do events in the starter systems. This could be as simple as just chatting in local there IC rather than in a channel, I am sure it wouldn't strain anyone's creativity to discover a reason to chat in local. Or it could involve more complexity using those things we fly about in.
I am sure that will result in a few odd looks, a few questions, and even a few people hitting up Google to see what's what. Just an idea anyways.
Like I said completely new, and not sure if this has been tried/suggested before, but I think it would be an easy way to raise the visibility of the RP community - particularly to people who may be considering RP but not exclusively looking for it, and for everyone generally.
Feel free to ignore the new person's uninformed comments :oops:
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You know that is a neat idea. Thanks.
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With me the only reason I decided to actually make an rp char was groups like EM (who if I'm not mistaken closed up as I was actually getting into making this char) who did things I was well aware of even as a non-rper or rather they did things that spiked my interest in rping in general. A lack of really visible groups at the forefront really seems to be hurting the community. Aside from Amarr who really is covered? Aside from groups that, ya exist but are barely doing anything noteworthy. What IREDs done recently is great I just wish there were more groups doing things like that, or really more groups doing things like that publicly since I rarely see much of anything aside from things that give the impression of just flat out being exclusive that lead to the belief of "why bother trying" as someone just getting started. I dunno, there's my.02 isk
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A little initiative, and a good story go a long way. The community has been in this state for a very long time, people sometimes rely too much on CCP creating the content and responding to that when they should be making their own stories.
That said a lot of RP goes on behind closed doors as but I think that has been covered elsewhere.
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That said a lot of RP goes on behind closed doors as but I think that has been covered elsewhere.
*waggles eyebrows*