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General Discussion => The Speakeasy: OOG/Off-topic Discussion => Topic started by: Mizhara on 27 Nov 2018, 15:27
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Release on the 30th. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dUcXYxILnF8)
Not gonna lie, I'm equal parts hyped as hell and very very worried. X: Rebirth was more of a coathanger abortion and a betrayal of the entire franchise, but everything I keep seeing about X4: Foundations seem to be a return to form. Everything we loved in X2, X3 etc only bigger, better, shinier, prettier, dakkaer, etc etc.
A singleplayer first person universe simulator, as complex and in-depth as Eve's ever been, with better combat, prettier graphics and so on? The drawback of there not being the social aspect of Eve is balanced by the delightful benefit of it not having the cancerous social aspect of Eve. Fuck I want this to be good.
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I'm with you. Very hopeful for this new release... X:Rebirth was wtf?
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Should probably have linked this video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6s9sXjqCME) that talks a bit more about the gameplay. Claims to be the biggest and most complex (in terms of gameplay options) space sandbox out there. If it follows X3's example, I wouldn't at all be surprised.
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I got turned on to X2 early in my EVE career as I was looking for something EVEish I could play that I didn't feel bad about just exiting out of at a moments notice. I *think* I eventually finished the campaign. I didn't make nearly as far in X3... I remember having some graphics issues early on with it that may have been why.
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I have never finished an X game. I suspect it's kind of like Factorio and that sort of thing. I play, I trade, I fight, I do the thingies and then after a while I get distracted and later start anew because THIS time I know I can do X and Y and it'll be so much better and then I get distracted and then I start anew and this time it'll be so much better because OGOD FUCK ME NOW THERE'S AN EXPANSION and so on and so forth.
... I don't regret it at all though. X2 and X3 were extremely basic in the whole immersion thing when it came to piloting ships, but this time that doesn't look like it's an issue at all.
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Damn near five hours of pre-launch streaming. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igmDNW1AyWQ)
Haven't watched it myself, still debating whether or not to avoid spoilers, but I felt I should share anyway.
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Aaaaaand it's out! Into the cockpit in five... four...
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Will take a look tonight. Let us know your initial thoughts!
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... well, after 50 minutes, my first impression is "ogod either I am completely retarded or this is just as - if not more - impenetrable than its predecessors."
I have no fucking idea what I'm doing and the game is asking me to do a tutorial I can't find. This is going to be one of those games that's going to take me a LONG time to figure out the control, UI and mechanics of and then when it's all second nature it'll be fucking amazing.
... I hope.
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Just looked at some initial reviews and they concur with you that controls are not intuitive at all.
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I got close to a bunch of sparkles, accidentally touched something and got contacted by a fish in a tank telling me they wanted to figure out faster than light speed telepathy and other things, and long story short I have been thrown across several sectors in some sort of warp rift and have now been paid a few hundred thousand of the fish's captors' credits so I can buy a suicide ship full of antimatter batteries or something.
11/10, game is complete bonkers and I haven't the faintest fuckin' idea what I'm doing, what I'm SUPPOSED to do, how to progress half the tutorials and this is my fourth start.
Found a shipyard that sells capital ships, I think. Although I think you can't outright -buy- ships as much as you create orders and they build them on demand? I think... it's time I just mapped out a few sectors or something. It seems to be the only reasonable path forwards.
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Someone aught to stream this tomfoolery. ;)
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Looks ambitious!
Don't care for the graphics / art direction personally, sort of like a Homeworld / Eve 2005 hybrid
Looks like the type of thing you could get sucked into and spend quite a bit of time.
Happy space adventuring :)
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I got close to a bunch of sparkles, accidentally touched something and got contacted by a fish in a tank telling me they wanted to figure out faster than light speed telepathy and other things, and long story short I have been thrown across several sectors in some sort of warp rift and have now been paid a few hundred thousand of the fish's captors' credits so I can buy a suicide ship full of antimatter batteries or something.
11/10, game is complete bonkers
:| :s :eek: :lol:
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Welp, first actual bug (that screwed me pretty good). There seems to be a thing where if you buy a mining ship and try to trade, you lose the ability to trade entirely, whether you're in the mining ship or not. You can fix it by selling the ship. Which happens at a severe loss. I'm now down almost 300k, in an attempt to make some money, heh.
Welp. Egosoft is apparently aware of it and working on it.
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Aaaand it's fixed.
Yeah, six hours in and still feel like I need another fifty to give a good first impression post but here goes.
This seems to be Egosoft's attempt to marry the Quality of Life improvements from X: Rebirth with the amazing sandbox of X3 and frankly, it seems to have worked. I have so much more to work on and figure out (I'm still shy of hiring traders, miners, running stations etc) but having poked at all the bits and pieces a little, it seems like it is the same old impenetrable awful mindgrindingly obtuse sandbox of X3 with a whole bunch of visual, UI and gameplay improvements to bring it into a modern world.
The graphics are pretty swanky, even if demanding for their looks. The dockside animations/NPCs etc are absolutely awful as they should be (fuck off with your space legs bullshit, this is Interne... this is Singleplayer Spaceships god damn it), and the ships handle amazingly. No seriously, the flight models are delicious. I'm wholly convinced they actually take your cargo into consideration when they calculate your inertia. My mining ship needing several kilometers of screeching sideways before it slows down enough to even be able to maneuver after picking up a load of Ice is delectable to feel.
So much weight and feeling of flying a big ass ship, which has been missing from both Eve and the X series up until now. Hell, it felt better than Elite: Dangerous.
What is much less enjoyable is how difficult it is to find things to do. You can do anything, you just... you know...
... sandbox. This sorely needs several plotlines injected, which if X3:TC/AP is any indication, there will be eventually. For now, it seems Egosoft prefers to polish the sandbox.
I'm enjoying it quite a bit, but I can't at all recommend it unless you were into the previous X games and is thus prepared for the learning curve that makes Eve look like Tic Tac Toe. If you were into X3 etc, this is Egosoft's wholehearted apology for X: Rebirth.
Edit: OH! One awesome little new tidbit just for flavor: Your ships are built to order. No buying a ship off the rack, now you pick the ship, the initial fit etc, then they build it for you while you wait (or go off to do something else in the mean time). It feels so -right-. Also makes a bit of sense given how these games tend to end up. Saving a particular fit for Trader Freighter Variant #21: Energy Cells in Sector X, Y and Z, then building a few of those when needed and sending them off to do their trading, and having another fit saved for mining vessel this and that, etc etc.
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The Caldari, appropriately lizard people, now like me. So I've got that going for me. Which is nice.
The ship captain I hired to take my 'newbship' full of antimatter cells and smack it down into an anomaly managed to attract pirate attention and died in spite of me descending upon the bastards with fury and... well okay, I'm still in a shitfit cheap ship so it was mostly just 'about twice the firepower of the first ship, which largely amounts to peeing forcefully in their general direction' but still. So now I have to make enough money for another ship, another captain, another set of antimatter cells and so on.
The NPCs you hire are kind of stupid. This might tie into the whole 'training them up' thing, but still. Very very stupid.
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Very interesting. Thanks for taking the time to post your feedback on this, Miz!
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They do seem to be working hard and patching out the worst issues, either with temporary work-arounds or full fixes. Post-Launch support seems to be quite good, but at the same time some of the things that people report to be fuckered (NPCs using Turrets, autotraders, etc) are kind of essential for a lot of gameplay.
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I think I'm pretty sold on getting it just a matter of when now. If I hit a 'geez I'm bored and don't want to log in to eve... what should I do?' will probably be the trigger :D
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Well, since it's singleplayer, I would recommend patience. This is the kind of game that'll age like wine, as mods and patches come along. It'll also mean wikis and guides and so on will populate.