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Title: Incarna: What system is best for mass gatherings?
Post by: Benjamin Shepherd on 05 Sep 2010, 18:53
I'm thinking Yulai.

EDIT: Julianus Soter > odd selection of systems tbh.

Give me some other systems, if you want.
Title: Re: Incarna: What system is best for mass gatherings?
Post by: Alain Colcer on 05 Sep 2010, 18:58
Nothing like having a space-window with Seyllin I in your view
Title: Re: Incarna: What system is best for mass gatherings?
Post by: Silver Night on 05 Sep 2010, 19:21
Yulai might be good just because of the FW issues. CONCORD sov.

Other than that, there are other hubs - Rens, Amarr, etc.

Depending on what sort of RP gathering you are thinking of, it could move around. That way you could also include systems that aren't as accessible to everyone, like Intaki.
Title: Re: Incarna: What system is best for mass gatherings?
Post by: Ulphus on 05 Sep 2010, 20:39
When you say "mass gatherings" - what are you trying to achieve beyond getting a bunch of people together?

That will probably affect your choices. Given that A fair number of roleplayers can't go into highsec easily due to their sec-status (/me waves at the pirates) and for example a fair number of various names in Matari RP can't/won't go into Amarr space (and vice versa) I suspect it will depend hugely on your goals and subject for a particular event.

Title: Re: Incarna: What system is best for mass gatherings?
Post by: Kaleigh Doyle on 05 Sep 2010, 21:25
Can I suggest Pain?  ;)
Title: Re: Incarna: What system is best for mass gatherings?
Post by: orange on 05 Sep 2010, 22:57
I think it very much depends on the purpose of the gathering.

For example, from a background/station presence, Nonni is very much a Patriot stronghold, while New Caldari is a place for all the megas to meet.  A mass meeting about Black Rise development might be held in Kinakka (there was an IC article about that).
Title: Re: Incarna: What system is best for mass gatherings?
Post by: Kyoko Sakoda on 06 Sep 2010, 00:12
HED-GP
Title: Re: Incarna: What system is best for mass gatherings?
Post by: lallara zhuul on 06 Sep 2010, 02:06
There is no best for mass gatherings.

Each and every person within any faction have their own preference and as it should be, they will create their own RP 'hubs' around New Eden and gather like minded people around them.

If you can't get everybody into the Best RP Channel on the cluster, how would you stand a chance doing it when people play dress up and go /dancing.
Title: Re: Incarna: What system is best for mass gatherings?
Post by: Milo Caman on 06 Sep 2010, 02:52
Seyillin' Cause' Low secks = best secks  :D
Title: Re: Incarna: What system is best for mass gatherings?
Post by: Graanvlokkie on 06 Sep 2010, 08:11
Big consideration is system acces. How many people cant even vist Jita due to factional warfare or thier own sec status?

Another thought, how will Incarna change the way the RP community goes about its bussines if you wont be able to just log into a chat channel and say that you are in the room? How many people will insist in roleplaying face to face in station using the Incarna mechanics, and not though the current chat window method?
Title: Re: Incarna: What system is best for mass gatherings?
Post by: Benjamin Shepherd on 06 Sep 2010, 08:30
I was thinking special events, such as the Seyllin Conference and other events that are important.

Especially with SeyCon, it would really help to see everyone there for multiple days, in the station, after and before things began. I think CCP's got a good thing going with this.

Oh, and I will most likely conduct some events with my Assembly (if it's still around) in a main station.
Title: Re: Incarna: What system is best for mass gatherings?
Post by: Saede Riordan on 06 Sep 2010, 08:40
For a big event, generally the best bet is to put it where it would make sense to be from an RP perspective.

SeyCon is in Seyllin, that's where it goes.

Your assembly I think would be right at home in Yulai
Title: Re: Incarna: What system is best for mass gatherings?
Post by: Myrhial Arkenath on 06 Sep 2010, 12:13
The same place where it usually would be a good idea. Fail to see why Incarna would make it different.
Title: Re: Incarna: What system is best for mass gatherings?
Post by: Seriphyn on 06 Sep 2010, 13:43
For the love of god not Jita.

Sinq Laison is a very central region, connected to all three other empires. However it might have to be lowsec...Seyllin...that's enclaved in the middle of highsec...hm

But yes, not Jita.

NOT Jita.

Yulai might just have to be it...even with -10.0 sec status, they can just evade the police, right?
Title: Re: Incarna: What system is best for mass gatherings?
Post by: Casiella on 06 Sep 2010, 16:31
Any system where I never go... or maybe Doril. Yeah, come out here.
Title: Re: Incarna: What system is best for mass gatherings?
Post by: Vieve on 06 Sep 2010, 18:03
Any system where I never go...

Seconded.  So, not Nonni, damn it.

Jel?  Hek?  Uedama?  I'd suggest Niarja, but it doesn't have any stations.
Title: Re: Incarna: What system is best for mass gatherings?
Post by: Vincent Pryce on 06 Sep 2010, 18:04
Goinard  8)
Title: Re: Incarna: What system is best for mass gatherings?
Post by: Casiella on 06 Sep 2010, 19:32
Jel?  Hek?  Uedama?  I'd suggest Niarja, but it doesn't have any stations.

Nah, I go to Hek too often.

Goinard works. Yes, you can all go to Goinard... I'm sure VETO will give you a suitable welcome.  :twisted:
Title: Re: Incarna: What system is best for mass gatherings?
Post by: Mithfindel on 08 Sep 2010, 06:04
There's three things to consider.

First, where do people own private clubs, once/if they are implemented. So you don't have people lolzoring in the midst of an event. After all, in space it's normal to have ships flying around, perhaps even the odd bump, but if you're in a bar / street and a mob is dry-humping you it might be a bit uncomfortable.

Second, event purpose. Due to the way EVE background works, there's no "RPer" faction. There'll be outlaws, loyalists of different factions, megacorps wanting corp sov etc.

Third, system population and size of rooms. Right now you could cram a hundred people to a chat channel bar/hall/whatever, but when Incarna hits, if you're doing events "in the flesh" instead of, say, a corporate VR channel... prepare to face that "the station administration has placed security measures to limit the amount of people within the operating range of the specific life support units" or however the game will let it be known that the target room is up to capacity. Depending on the size, we'll likely talk about 16 - 64 people or so. The cardboard box that is your first corp office can hold only a handful of people, that "big" bar that took enough resources to make a battleship can host along the lines of 64. My guess.
Title: Re: Incarna: What system is best for mass gatherings?
Post by: Saede Riordan on 08 Sep 2010, 08:54
Jel?  Hek?  Uedama?  I'd suggest Niarja, but it doesn't have any stations.

Nah, I go to Hek too often.

Goinard works. Yes, you can all go to Goinard... I'm sure VETO will give you a suitable welcome.  :twisted:

HED-GP, seems like a good place to do this, or maybe NOL-M9
Title: Re: Incarna: What system is best for mass gatherings?
Post by: Vlad Cetes on 08 Sep 2010, 10:36
Jel?  Hek?  Uedama?  I'd suggest Niarja, but it doesn't have any stations.

Nah, I go to Hek too often.

Goinard works. Yes, you can all go to Goinard... I'm sure VETO will give you a suitable welcome.  :twisted:

HED-GP, seems like a good place to do this, or maybe NOL-M9

No one on backstage can dock in HED though (yes there IS a station there, COL owns it).
Title: Re: Incarna: What system is best for mass gatherings?
Post by: Alain Colcer on 08 Sep 2010, 13:21
CCP-US In deklein perhaps?

0SHT-A in cath?
Title: Re: Incarna: What system is best for mass gatherings?
Post by: Casiella on 08 Sep 2010, 15:10
We need a HTFU-X system.
Title: Re: Incarna: What system is best for mass gatherings?
Post by: Vlad Cetes on 10 Sep 2010, 08:17
CCP-US In deklein perhaps?

0SHT-A in cath?

0SHT-A is in Curse, not Catch. It's the jump into Curse from Catch and about 15 jumps from the HED entrance.
Title: Re: Incarna: What system is best for mass gatherings?
Post by: Rodj Blake on 10 Sep 2010, 09:22
Amarr, obviously.

Mass Amarrian gatherings are best gatherings.
Title: Re: Incarna: What system is best for mass gatherings?
Post by: Ashar Kor-Azor on 19 Oct 2010, 15:05
I'd pick the most roleplay-relevant lowsec island.

And I'd be prepared to station a fleet in the area, for security. Or perhaps escort any skittish pirates that actually trusted you, for some damn reason, to not pop their pod. Or offer jumpclone services there, like Estel does.
Title: Re: Incarna: What system is best for mass gatherings?
Post by: Benjamin Shepherd on 25 Oct 2010, 01:25
It seems like an overwhelming number of players think Yulai would be the best option.

If I do feel like expanding the New Eden Assembly (if you're counting, plug-in whoring #8) to offices aside from Yulai, it would be in the other voted areas.
Title: Re: Incarna: What system is best for mass gatherings?
Post by: Boma Airaken on 25 Oct 2010, 02:21
Forgive spelling.

Balle
Iyen-Oursta
Otitoh
Terjiev
Ghesis
blah blah blah

I think COSMOS or chron referenced systems are better than bullshit hubs simply because they drip with RP value.
Title: Re: Incarna: What system is best for mass gatherings?
Post by: Borza on 25 Oct 2010, 03:02
Assuming Chribba retains control for that long... 9UY.
Decidedly neutral ground (with him running it) and very simple to place a jump clone there.
Title: Re: Incarna: What system is best for mass gatherings?
Post by: Boma Airaken on 25 Oct 2010, 03:17
Assuming Chribba retains control for that long... 9UY.
Decidedly neutral ground (with him running it) and very simple to place a jump clone there.

Quoting the smart guy. (No sarcasm, seriously.)
Title: Re: Incarna: What system is best for mass gatherings?
Post by: Inara Subaka on 27 Oct 2010, 02:00
Yulai might just have to be it...even with -10.0 sec status, they can just evade the police, right?

Actually, because the local police are CONCORD, as soon as we enter local we get GCC. Which means since it's in hisec, all gates and docking ramps lock us out, cloaks refuse to work, and they use their :superhighwayofdoom: to show up wherever you are in space.

Recommend the best location for a mass gathering: Utopia in Heaven.
Title: Re: Incarna: What system is best for mass gatherings?
Post by: Elsebeth Rhiannon on 27 Oct 2010, 02:28
I am late to this thread, so apologies if I repeat something (did not read it all). I do not think the general question is answerable; for me it depends on what the mass gathering is ICly for. For NEA conferences, I'd say Yulai though.
Title: Re: Incarna: What system is best for mass gatherings?
Post by: Bacchanalian on 27 Oct 2010, 15:04
Yulai might just have to be it...even with -10.0 sec status, they can just evade the police, right?

Actually, because the local police are CONCORD, as soon as we enter local we get GCC. Which means since it's in hisec, all gates and docking ramps lock us out, cloaks refuse to work, and they use their :superhighwayofdoom: to show up wherever you are in space.

Recommend the best location for a mass gathering: Utopia in Heaven.

Or at least somewhere in lowsec.

Also, CONCORD sov sucks when you're too low sec to go through it.  Discovered the GCC bit not too long ago--real convenient.
Title: Re: Incarna: What system is best for mass gatherings?
Post by: Benjamin Shepherd on 27 Oct 2010, 15:08
There doesn't have to be just one, by the way. Have one for general purposes, the other for pirate-centric RP, etc.
Title: Re: Incarna: What system is best for mass gatherings?
Post by: Saede Riordan on 27 Oct 2010, 16:39
Yulai might just have to be it...even with -10.0 sec status, they can just evade the police, right?

Actually, because the local police are CONCORD, as soon as we enter local we get GCC. Which means since it's in hisec, all gates and docking ramps lock us out, cloaks refuse to work, and they use their :superhighwayofdoom: to show up wherever you are in space.

Recommend the best location for a mass gathering: Utopia in Heaven.


My parents could bake us cookies \o/
Title: Re: Incarna: What system is best for mass gatherings?
Post by: Borza on 28 Oct 2010, 06:28
:arms:

I still think 100% neutral nullsec is best, 9UY if Chribba still owns it should let everyone dock and (I imagine only for flat fee, not sure how he's running this) install jump clones.
It also has as much RP history as anything from a CCP Chronicle. Maybe not RP relevant to everyone, but which station would have that?
Title: Re: Incarna: What system is best for mass gatherings?
Post by: Benjamin Shepherd on 28 Oct 2010, 09:40
In other news, the poll results are now giving us all the finger.
Title: Re: Incarna: What system is best for mass gatherings?
Post by: Graelyn on 28 Oct 2010, 14:23
:arms:

I still think 100% neutral nullsec is best, 9UY if Chribba still owns it should let everyone dock and (I imagine only for flat fee, not sure how he's running this) install jump clones.
It also has as much RP history as anything from a CCP Chronicle. Maybe not RP relevant to everyone, but which station would have that?

We want a neutral ground.

Last time I docked at Unity, it was to survey it's halls after the Amarrian re-capture.

Next time I step aboard, it will be for the same purpose.  8)
Title: Re: Incarna: What system is best for mass gatherings?
Post by: Borza on 29 Oct 2010, 02:05
:arms:

I still think 100% neutral nullsec is best, 9UY if Chribba still owns it should let everyone dock and (I imagine only for flat fee, not sure how he's running this) install jump clones.
It also has as much RP history as anything from a CCP Chronicle. Maybe not RP relevant to everyone, but which station would have that?

We want a neutral ground.

It's held by the most neutral person in the game. Who's amarrian or ammatar iirc ;)
Last time I docked at Unity, it was to survey it's halls after the Amarrian re-capture.

Next time I step aboard, it will be for the same purpose.  8)
Title: Re: Incarna: What system is best for mass gatherings?
Post by: Akrasjel Lanate on 11 Nov 2010, 15:02
I selected - Seyllin but Yulai is good to.

Also maby The Last Gate. :?:
Title: Re: Incarna: What system is best for mass gatherings?
Post by: Morwen Lagann on 11 Nov 2010, 15:28
I selected - Seyllin but Yulai is good to.

Also maby The Last Gate. :?:

TLG's in Goinard, which is lowsec. I dunno if that's the best place, much as I'd love for it to be.

We can hope CCP will do something equivalent to the community's handwavium technique, also known as "taking the Interbus" or holoprojection, I suppose...