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EVE-Online RP Discussion and Resources => EVE OOC Summit => Topic started by: Graelyn on 23 Dec 2018, 03:21
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Hehheh
You want content? We're going in facefirst!
It's gonna hurt a bit, but you're all going to have a lot of fun, methinks. :cube:
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Whut? Explain for the distant onlookers
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Whut? Explain for the distant onlookers
In short: Terrorism, slave uprisings, Amarrian civil wars, freedom fighting Minmatar shenanigans, military standoffs, and general rabblerousing. Going on for about a week now (or longer if you include the preceding Kahah/Rens/Deathglow stuff). Includes a bit of RPer on RPer violence in space.
https://community.eveonline.com/news/news-channels/world-news/multiple-terrorist-attacks-against-amarr-empire-as-privy-council-meets/
https://community.eveonline.com/news/news-channels/world-news/amarr-forces-respond-to-terrorist-attacks-and-slave-revolts-on-five-worlds/
https://community.eveonline.com/news/news-channels/world-news/minmatar-republic-deploys-blockade-taskforces-in-escalation-against-amarr/
https://community.eveonline.com/news/news-channels/world-news/amarr-steps-up-border-patrols-alleges-republic-interference-in-internal-affairs/
https://forums.eveonline.com/t/update-on-security-of-the-empire/126657
https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-handy-guide-to-thebeka/129019
https://zkillboard.com/system/30002226/
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You want content? We're going in facefirst!
Correct.
It's gonna hurt a bit, but you're all going to have a lot of fun, methinks. :cube:
I am not entirely sure this went the expected way.
Take Two, when?
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Yeah, we fucked up early. :yar:
We didn't know about that extra 15min repair cycle.. :oops: We thought you (Miz) would come in and peck at the thing in an effort to push the timer to EMDecLive, we'd blow up your stuff and bail out heroically.
That said, we were able to, 2 days after reformation, with short notice and panic abounding, with holidays interfering, recruits and prospects not arrived, and an stuck-typing-only FC, get enough pilots and ships on grid to equal PIE's numbers on a so-so day. That's a yardstick we'll take some comfort in. I'm hopeful we can be on track to handle a dedicated EM fleet on equal footing before too long.
Numbers aside, per pilot effectiveness isn't anywhere near 1:1 with Praetorians yet, of course. And I'm as shitty at multiboxing as ever. (-1 Raven)
Imagine though, if you will, a discord packed with people who all looked at the new timer popping up and went, at the same time "Ohhhh.." :idea:
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I certainly send kudos your way for planting a structure on a grid that expressed numerous hostile intentions. The willingness to take that risk is commendable and should be praised. The structures we put in space are basically killmails waiting to happen and planting hem to influence the story on a given planet helps give those stories some meat to them (at least in my opinion).
Better to take the risk and put an asset in space that can die. Anyone can say they put military forces somewhere and they’re doing X, but I respect those who say military/humanitarian forces are doing something AND put a structure (or a freighter haha) in place that could be killed. It generates in-space content and offers better opportunity for counterplay both with ships and roleplay.
You should be proud of making the attempt. It’s good for everyone and gives more content for CCP to review to determine if these kinds of events are worth investing in.
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I don't think anyone would criticize the courage. It's a good thing. I'm genuinely extremely surprised seeing even SFRIM etc breaking out the wardecs. It's a pleasure to see.
That said, there's almost too many structures up now. I figured I'd take a step back and not really be involved in Thebeka on that level, since dropping a Fortizar garnered zero response from neither CCP or AmarrBloc, instead letting Samira, PIE, EM etc take the foreground. I did not expect this much space litter.
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I think there’s a difference between “merely” participating in space versus claiming influence on the ground. For example, I think House Newelle is doing it right. They make after action reports but they also have an Astrahus above Alkabsi. This allows counterplay for their actions, at least by disrupting their space presence, if there were groups that wanted to.
Similarly, as long as pilot allegiances are clear and either control a structure or have access to one that will allow them to do so, it’s fine to not have a personal structure as long as there is _something_ that can be attacked in space. Mobile depots should warrant minor stories and structures like Astrahuses/Raitarus, which represent bigger investments, should receive larger stories as well.
To me, it seems fair to say that the bigger the in-space and vulnerable investment, the bigger the story for terrestrial stuff. Multiple groups can share a structure—that’s totally fine in my book—as long as there is some form of counterplay.
Basically, no one likes zero counterplay. And in my opinion, House Newelle is to the Kahah freighter invasion what other groups are to the self-destructing blood raider sacrifice freighters.
My bottom line is that it’s up to CCP to write in what is reasonable and what is just fake news when it comes to ground stuff. But if you ARE going to write about ground stuff, you should be risking something significant if your battle actions are significant.
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As for CCP ignoring your Fortizar, I’m sorry to hear that. Significant investments should warrant some attention, but I think CCP’s logic is that actions in event systems are more important. But that’s just my speculation.
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Just following your lead as it pertains to risk, Armast. 8)
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Just following your lead as it pertains to risk, Armast. 8)
Nice 8)
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As for CCP ignoring your Fortizar, I’m sorry to hear that. Significant investments should warrant some attention, but I think CCP’s logic is that actions in event systems are more important. But that’s just my speculation.
I think it relates more to it having been dropped before this recent influx of events, and not in a system that has any current plot focus. With AmarrBloc's lack of actions being more to not believing they can actually take it on in a fight.
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Those are my thoughts but expressed in a much clearer way.
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More complete summary for you, Silas:
https://forums.eveonline.com/t/razsu-zaibatsu-associated-news-institute-hub/76898/44
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More complete summary for you, Silas:
https://forums.eveonline.com/t/razsu-zaibatsu-associated-news-institute-hub/76898/44
That is very helpful, thanks :)
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More complete summary for you, Silas:
https://forums.eveonline.com/t/razsu-zaibatsu-associated-news-institute-hub/76898/44
Super helpful thanks!
I see PIE is still tut-tutting at any amarr helpful group that recruits ne'erdowells, eh? Just like old times :)
Looks like a proper mess in system though, fun for all :)
Nice to see AM back though, that's just fantastic. Too bad about the war dec / structure explosion though :(
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Lasted quite a bit longer than the advertised "24h after structure destruction." We just went the full week before wardecs were invalidated.
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By the by, who is releasing all of the zany slave revolt gas across the Empire?
I thought it was Omir's crew but they haven't been on galnet twirling mustaches right?
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The signs all point towards it having been a Covenant operation.
But they haven't done any moustache twirling.
Unusual behaviour compared to the past, but such moustache twirling did have its critics (https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-time-of-shame-approacheth/109385).
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The signs all point towards it having been a Covenant operation.
But they haven't done any moustache twirling.
Unusual behaviour compared to the past, but such moustache twirling did have its critics (https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-time-of-shame-approacheth/109385).
A good mustache twirl now and then is just fine, darlings ;)
Maybe not yearly, on a schedule, but now and then....
The covenant sowing general discord among enemies is fine and dandy but it's no fun to remain anonymous unless it's part of a good 'ole covenant scheme to do...something?
Omir does need a good kick in the arse and to be excommunicated (liquified) post-haste, for repeated silliness. I nominate yours truly to lead the Covenant in a new and delicious direction.
I'd rather this particular plot though stick to Amarr/Amatar/Republic though, plenty of good material there and the Republic has gotten shorted so much for events and fiction for years.
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I'd love for more agency and overt action on the Republic's part, but as it stands leaving the originator uncertain really does make this from the Amarr side. It's almost certainly Sabik loyalists in the Kingdom that are the cause, though; so much of this looks targeted at opponents of Chakaid... :3
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Lasted quite a bit longer than the advertised "24h after structure destruction." We just went the full week before wardecs were invalidated.
You should have seen what happened when we unmutualed Ghosts.
*War will conclude in 24 hours!*
(40sec later)
*War has Concluded!*
That's not fucky at all...
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So, imagine you've got this alliance of mainly fighters, getting wrapped up in wardecs and capsuleer politics as one tends to do when you have fighters around.
You've got a strange bunch of nerds, some newbros freshly into EVE, some nullsec types, and a lot of inbetween, all on your voicecomms, revealing odd music they like or odd hobbies or whatnot. We're bashing structures or whatever it is that night, we're all telling stories, and a few about events and such back in the day.
Someone links The Summit.
Now we as a corp, Tzedakah, we're the RPers around here, but AM as a whole doesn't recruit from an RPer direction, we most focus on our other aspects to new folks. It's made clear that we intend to help the Amarr side, most agree with that 'whatever that means', but it's the Conclave and CEOs who care about that, the rest are usually with us because they just want to fly in our ops, or to do whatever it is we're doing, not because of the logo or description.
Suddenly, these various fighter pilots all at once have a much stronger than expected interest in all that. The questions start coming. At first it's history and cool things that went down, but eventually it's background and...bios? These guys want help with character backgrounds? Wait...
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"Yes, you are Gallente.
But not exactly. You're Intaki! It's the coolest most Irish Gallente ever.
Here, read all this about Intaki.
Awesome aren't they? Crazy fuckers."
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"So...here's the difference between the Kingdom and the Empire...." (this one took a while)
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No, your people were at war with his. Now it's all weird. Now CONCORD. Yes, that's why it's around.
Suddenly...we have inchar channels, and people using them? Deals are being made in RP to secure the services of pilots, and folks are hammering out backstory..
What just happened here?
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Amazing stuff.
This, friend, is what happens when you let people enjoy the setting and get immersed, without 'saying' the word roleplayer, which makes people think of a fat kid in a cheap robe throwing wads of whatever and yelling "lightning bolt" - everybody wants to roleplay, but nobody wants to be a 'roleplayer'.
Awesome that you've got stuff like that developing, hopefully we see some of those pilots here on Backstage soon! This place needs some new blood breathing new perspectives into it.
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