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EVE-Online RP Discussion and Resources => EVE OOC Summit => Topic started by: Makkal on 06 Jun 2013, 11:36
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Plans! Those things that never survive contact with the
enemy other players.
Are you a planner? Do you have long term goals? When you enter a 'scene' is there something specific you're angling to have happen? Do you try to craft stories for your characters?
What about your PC? Do they float on the (solar) winds like a leaf? Have intricate, long-term plans they work to see realized? A few vague goals?
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As a player, I have a handful of long-term goals unrelated to RPing but I don't really care if I reach them or not.
As a role-player, I tend to see it as my job to create a detailed character and then set her loose in the world. While Makkal sometimes surprises me (joining RDC instead of PIE), I have a very strong concept of her in mind and attempt to constantly base her interactions with others within her frame of behaviors. A lot of times this means her doing things that I, as a player, don't really like. From my vantage point, I can easily see how unoptimal what she does or says is for her or for me.
Makkal has a handful of things she's passionate about achieving. She tends to push everything else away as she focuses on what she wants, but she's been suffering mostly frustration lately.
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I deliberately try to avoid planning. I want to allow events outside my control to shape my RP and my characters. This has sometimes screwed me over, but I find it more interesting overall than pursuing specific objectives of which I know what the outcome will be long before I reach it. I've created a particular character, and I want to see how that character reacts to the unforeseen situations around her based on her personality. I've set the stage, it's up to the characters to shape the plot.
ICly, definitely not. Samira stares down at her feet as she walks and has no idea what's coming up ahead of her.
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I tend to start with a very loose concept and then begin to fill in the details as I go. In tabletop games, I will usually have a stronger concept in mind when I build my character than when I first build a character in an MMO. Part of that is, in the tabletop setting, I know who I'm going to be playing with so that gives me a framework in which to start building the character. Online, I have no idea what I might run into so I try to keep my concepts a bit more generalized and let the interactions begin to define the character. Also, in the case of EVE, not knowing much about the setting, I decided to keep the initial concept as basic as possible.
But Steffanie has surprised me a lot. I had figured I would play against the grain and try to be an extroverted, live for the party and excesses type character. That concept pretty much burned up upon entry and I'm glad that it did. I, and the character, are building up long term plans now...I find that once I find a hook with a character I will start building from there and filling in as much detail as possible.
As to the plans I have in mind, I would like to achieve them, but the more I think about it, the more I feel I will have more fun with the journey than actually fulfilling the goals. I am prepared to see most of them blow up in my face and I'm okay with that. Steff, well, I won't know how she'll take it until it happens. :D
Which actually brings me to a question...Now, I know pretty much what motivates and guides Steff and a general idea of what she will and won't do, but for the most part most of what happens, her actions, choice of wording, etc. is very much unplanned and on more than one occasion her going in a completely different direction than I had intended. Does anyone else have that experience of their character seemingly having a life of their own?
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Joker: Do I really look like a guy with a plan? You know what I am? I'm a dog chasing cars. I wouldn't know what to do with one if I caught it. You know, I just... do things. The mob has plans, the cops have plans, Gordon's got plans. You know, they're schemers. Schemers trying to control their little worlds. I'm not a schemer. I try to show the schemers how pathetic their attempts to control things really are.
Introduce a little Anarchy.
*ahem*
Silas has plans within plans within plans. Divided up into long term (multi-year) and shorter term (less than a year) RP things.
Lots of little things happen unexpectedly but there has always been planning on a sociopathic level going on.
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Saede is definitely a planner. Though, she's forced to adapt most of her plans on the fly and completely change directions pretty often. So its kind of like she's trying to play speedchess while blindfolded. She's not terribly good at it.
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Karm's plans rarely seem to work out as expected. This is especially the case with long term plans. I think the longest-term plan took about two years to complete, and got pretty much the opposite reaction that the character expected. Spontaneous action seems to be working out better for her, so that's her current focus. I'm sure I'll come up with some short-term schemes soon.
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Neither Kala nor myself plan at all.
We just take whatever comes and react as naturally as I can manage. This means that any time you are talking to us, everything we say has been thought up at that exact moment.
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I have a major master plan. According to this plan, I should do random things. If I will follow this plan correctly, I will have totally random planned result.
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OOC: I don't have plans, RL keeps me too busy these days. Waiting for sec tags to get cheaper.
IC: Vince doesn't have any plans anymore. Capsuleer ennui has settled in. He rarely leaves his capsule unless spending time with his wife.
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Neither Kala nor myself plan at all.
We just take whatever comes and react as naturally as I can manage. This means that any time you are talking to us, everything we say has been thought up at that exact moment.
Do you mean you didn't start with any character history, preferences, and such? Your PC was a blank slate and you've just made things up and added them as you've spoken with other characters?
I tend to start with a very loose concept and then begin to fill in the details as I go.
I knew you were going to say that.
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Neither Kala nor myself plan at all.
We just take whatever comes and react as naturally as I can manage. This means that any time you are talking to us, everything we say has been thought up at that exact moment.
Do you mean you didn't start with any character history, preferences, and such? Your PC was a blank slate and you've just made things up and added them as you've spoken with other characters?
Yes.
I didn't create Kala with the intention of RP at all. She was simply the latest in a string of characters lasting over 3 years. I kept getting bored and making new ones, so with Kala I wanted to try something completely new with the intention of actually keeping a character for more than 3 months.
After about 3 weeks of playing, I'd trained all the very necessary early skills and was going through the offices in Pator looking for a corp. Spotted Gradient, went "wow that's an old corp" and joined their public channel. I built my character an extremely basic background, and preceded to go completely immersive, with almost no contact to anyone outside the corp. Kala has sort of developed from there.
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Anslo doesn't plan.
Not at all.
Nope...
Nooooot at all.
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Safai has an overall plan that is unobtainable and untenable. It keeps her going, though.
I wonder if, after a few years, she still be persistently devout or driven mad in the face of impossible opposition.
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OOCly a bit of both.
ICly Lyn may have plans... If we can call those plans. More akin to apparently chaotic thoughts and visions that are only comprehensible to her mind jumping in all directions at the same time.
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Aria started out as a planner, of sorts. However, since plans, indeed, do not survive first contact with the enemy and Aria's worst enemy is and always has been herself, she's gradually learned to avoid elaborate schemes and just sort of gently press in the direction she wants things to go.
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Nah, none of that planning stuff for me. Makes the ol' noggin hurt. Do not mistake the appearance of always having a plan for actually having one :p
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The Aeternus Initiative can neither be confirmed/denied.
The blood it will take to see through on the other hand is undeniable.
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I don't really have any 'goals' or 'plans' in EVE aside from having fun, so I tend to let Morwen "lead" in that regard.
Morwen, while prone to impulsive knee-jerk (re)actions, definitely likes to have some sort of plan or idea where she's going with things, and tries to keep tabs on the "bigger picture" when she does make her plans. So while I know roughly what her intent is when she does something, how she reacts isn't set in stone.
Some of her longer-term plans are already pretty well on their way to being completed, though the route they took to get there is definitely nothing like what she'd originally planned. :lol:
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Shin has motivations which affect what she does, but she rarely plans to any real degree. Which really explains a lot about the choices she's made over the years. In the Greek sense, she has a philosophy of life that informs the choices she makes.
That's starting to change, however, as things develop - especially since we're not nearly operating in such a PF vacuum anymore. :D
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Aria started out as a planner, of sorts. However, since plans, indeed, do not survive first contact with the enemy and Aria's worst enemy is and always has been herself, she's gradually learned to avoid elaborate schemes and just sort of gently press in the direction she wants things to go.
This is probably a lesson Saede is going to need to have pounded into her.
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My OOC plans mostly tend to fall into more OOC-ish categories ("get spacerich, fly shinyships, don't asplode, fly bigger shinyships, kill stuff") and so for a good while didn't generally tend to affect my RP much. The point at which this began to be an issue is when I decided I was sick of FW and looked for other medium-large scale PvP opportunities; what I found was that by segregating the two so heavily, I could no longer find a corporation which met both IC and OOC goals.
ICly, Esna is a colossal planner with varying success. On the one hand, he has in some cases stood up for and helped certain people he saw as being consumed by a still-reversible hatred; this has had some success in certain situations (more success, Esna will tell you, than he has had simply shooting his enemies). Conversely, Esna will occasionally turn around and methodically pick away at a specific target. The most public example of this is when he incessantly collected information on and then publicly hounded Leopold Caine in revenge for what he saw as a personal attack by Caine on Esna's protection as a host.
As a 3rd option, some of Esna's goals are downright unattainable within RP as they operate in the decades-to-centuries-long timescale that Holders often tend to view things in.
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I, as a player, like to plan. And, thus, old-Seph liked to plan. He had plans within plans, long, short and medium term, some took weeks, some took years. And, in general, they usually worked more or less as they should to a reasonable point.
But that requires a lot of time and planning, which I no longer have. So Catillah only has set his direction and planned the milestones and key points to reach it. He's a soldier, so he leaves the bigger plans to his superiors in the Praetoria.
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I have a plan. To see everything, to do everything.
I always keep moving forward, on to the next thing and the next one.
IC I just want to make a person come alive, to seem real and do develop over time. So that as more and more time passes, I won't have to speak for her, others who know Aya will.
Also I am looking for fights, drama and arguments. But you all knew that =/
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Celeste has had plans. She still does, though this week's event has thrown a wrench in them. In the recent past, it was best not to ask about her plans, because there was always the risk she'd be completely honest, and completely honest often included the confession "I'm glad we had the chance to have this chat while you're still you".
Vieve has a plan. It involves having a home cooked dinner every night. Sometimes things interfere with that and must be punished.
Maris ... has work to do.
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Interesting question - one which I've been pondering in the back of my head the last days.
A year or maybe even half a year ago, I would have said 'no': I had originally made up just enough background to write stories against, and then just let the character develop based on and in feedback with what happened. And while I sometimes do play 'what-if', down to scene sketches, long term there is still no plan.
Right now, however, I actually do have a rough short-term plan, triggered by a direction my character was suddenly taking - to my own surprise, I must say, because I didn't ever expect that to happen. I plan to nudge her along that direction, but the exact outcome is still up in the air.
Afterwards, I'll likely go back into feedback mode again, at least for some time. Partly because I'm not really good at writing CD posts :)
IC, Druur is in a very confusing period of her life.
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You know, I actually use the exact phrase the OP is titled with to try and explain to my space friend Gan what is wrong with me lol.
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I'm in the same boat as Kalaratiri. I read up on the lore before I made Della, picked a background that suited my attitude and expected playstyle, and when I started to roleplay her further down the line it's as a reflection of that ooc playstyle. So, when it comes to those outside of her corp she doesn't really have any schemes beyond socialize and enjoy herself.
I personally would love to get her tangled up in the plans of others, but that comes about from said socializing, approaching others ooc, repeatedly mentioning that I'm interested it and seeing if anybody approaches me, or random happenstance.
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You know, I actually use the exact phrase the OP is titled with to try and explain to my space friend Gan what is wrong with me lol.
Because Dune.
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I don't really plan and I don't have long term goals, any scenes I enter are because of IC motives and goals. I have not crafted stories before, but lately I've been keeping an eye on Incursions to see if I can have something happen to Ché's fiancée.
Ché...has some minor plans, but pretty much just lives life by the day.
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Is that from Dune? Been a long time since I read them all.
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The only plan I have is "kill a lot of people, steal their stuff, and try to make maximum use of my characters".
Whatever fun things happen along that road, happen, I look forward to the ride.