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EVE-Online RP Discussion and Resources => CCP Public Library => Topic started by: Aldrith Shutaq on 23 Apr 2012, 19:11
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CCP just posted this today:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNVcwxblSks&list=PL989256B68D78EC0E&index=7&feature=plpp_video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNVcwxblSks&list=PL989256B68D78EC0E&index=7&feature=plpp_video)
Perhaps the first in a series?
Some pretty interesting info present it in it, firstly being the crew size. Seems they reduced the official number of crewmen for a ship? Only 80 or so man a Gallente non-capsuleer battlecruiser instead of a few hundred as initially suggested. Perhaps this is just because it is Gallente and has lots of automation, but something tells me CCP got the hint that exploding ships ships were unrealistic population sinks if they did indeed need hundreds to thousands to man.
Also, it seems that different standard components of T1 ships are made by different manufacturers. Eenteresting.
Discuss!
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This must have been taken down and reposted, as I remember watching it a good while ago and being kind of O_o at all the information they got wrong or are changing (it's not just the crew).
EDIT: Yeah, they seem to be taking down videos and reuploading them again. I can't find the other ship spec video they released, and several other videos are out of order for their original release dates.
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Really nice.Someone will have to rewrite this down on evelopedia.
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Really nice.Someone will have to rewrite this down on evelopedia.
Did it when these videos came out a while back :D
http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Myrmidon
http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Wyvern
http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Drake
EDIT: Oh, and:
http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Mantis
http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Dragonfly
(I think that's all of them?)
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Interesting to note that for the Drake/Myrmidon, both ships are cut down to low crew numbers regardless of technology, suggesting the Jove capsule tech "standardizes" ship control quite significantly.
Otherwise, I laugh at Caldari "advanced technology" when it takes a Gallente battlecruiser 80 to crew it, and a Drake 590. That's quite the discrepancy.
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Stupid CCP, get your shit right the first time!
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The difference is because of the manpower needed to operate advanced Caldari electronics - one guy with a Frankenstein blade switch per flashy blue light.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NpJQjwKs6Kg&feature=g-all-u&context=G21326bbFAAAAAAAAAAA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NpJQjwKs6Kg&feature=g-all-u&context=G21326bbFAAAAAAAAAAA)
Another Tech Spec trailer. This one must be completely new since it features a DUST 514 weapon; a Caldari assault rifle, yey.
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Newp. Seen it as a bonus promo dealie for Templar One.
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This is what I get for not playing anymore.
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Newp. Seen it as a bonus promo dealie for Templar One.
This.
It was part of the "bonus content" links for the ebook edition of Templar One back when it was first released. I'm guessing that enough time's passed and the links have been shared around enough that CCP's now decided to make them 'public'. That and it's an easy marketing tool to recycle in the leadup to DUST 514's release.
In addition to the ships and rifle already mentioned there's a still of the EVE gate and also one of the sleeper implant that makes DUST soldiers viable.
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also one of the sleeper implant that makes DUST soldiers viable.
That one just went up (again) a few hours ago.
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Interesting to note that for the Drake/Myrmidon, both ships are cut down to low crew numbers regardless of technology, suggesting the Jove capsule tech "standardizes" ship control quite significantly.
Otherwise, I laugh at Caldari "advanced technology" when it takes a Gallente battlecruiser 80 to crew it, and a Drake 590. That's quite the discrepancy.
It is also a disconnect from previous PF concerning the Caldari population size. I would expect Gallente/Caldari ships to have similar size crew compliments; differences largely found in how they go about having smaller crews.
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The differences are absurd in size. However, I think Gallente crews would still be smaller. Reasons being advanced automation technologies and far more importantly the tendency to utilize that to its fullest. Caldari are by no means not high-tech, but they have a culture ( and society, when one thinks about how nice that would look on a CV ) were serving in the navy is important.
Since capsuleers usually don't have official navy personel as crew things are bound to be a bit different, however one could argue that the design is based on the racial differences. Therefore a brutix is designed to need less hands than a ferox, regardless under which banner it flies.
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This stuff is all at least half a year old....remember when I made links to them in the OOC MOTD?
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Way to make me feel extra out of the loop...
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S07zqyWByF8
Wyvern. The crew numbers at the start make me :psyccp: :bash:
Other than that, pretty cool.
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Wow, only 1000-ish people needed to crew a capsuleer supercarrier?
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No. 390 on a capsuleer SC, less than a standard drake. /o\
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Yeah, but you have to add the flight operations crews, which is another 580 according to the trailer. That would be for both versions of the ship, making caspuleer versions 960-man, and standard ones 1733-man.
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I like that a ship of that size has components built by a bunch of different companies, very realistic.
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The Myrm also has components from different companies, suggesting all ships are made like this.
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While this fits for some nations, that's a bit of a :welp: for the State, where PF already states that T1 ships are designed and procuced by a single mega.
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Battleship and below I can see the Megas holding single design privileges over a ship. Their capitals are very 'the glory of the State', however (see Leviathan), so that probably has all the Megas involved.
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While this fits for some nations, that's a bit of a :welp: for the State, where PF already states that T1 ships are designed and procuced by a single mega.
Battleship and below I can see the Megas holding single design privileges over a ship. Their capitals are very 'the glory of the State', however (see Leviathan), so that probably has all the Megas involved.
There is also a difference between a ship being designed by a single corporation and that design having components from multiple corporations.
The Wyvern may be a KK design, but as part of their design they are using existing systems from the companies that are number one in the particular field.
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Considering how the State work, and how the Caldari think, it makes actually sense to me that they buy A LOT from each other when the business opportunities arise. This does not mean that they suddenly are not competitors anymore. For me, its trade and business agreements at their best.
Edit : designing your own jumpdrive system suitable for your design costs too much ? Fortunately, there is something the Lai Dai competitor produces that fits exactly for your need. It may cost you a lot to get the rights to include it in your design, but on another hand, it also provides new business opportunities for Lai Dai that will probably be able to sell more of their jumpdrive system at the same time.
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I dont work in shipbuilding, but I'm pretty sure how alot of Navy ships at least include stuff from different companies.
Plus, certainly with capitals, the megacorps would have probably built them for the Caldari Navy. Since the Navy is the largest of the Military services in the state.
Although it is worth noting that EVElopedia list the security arms of the Megacorps, LDPS, Home Guard etc as military branches.
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Now see, what really confuses and irritates me is the fighters.
At that size all it carries is 40?
And why are the fighters so massive?
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Now see, what really confuses and irritates me is the fighters.
At that size all it carries is 40?
And why are the fighters so massive?
They are dropping Citadel Torps en masse... plus the storage capacity for the fuel/spare torps when they(fighters/fighter bombers) dock. Since there's no chance at ever docking the ship, it could be months/years of operation before they ever stay stationary long enough to resupply.
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Every fighter = a Squadron?
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I dont work in shipbuilding, but I'm pretty sure how alot of Navy ships at least include stuff from different companies.
Yep.
For instance the current french aircraft carrier was famous for having gone in a lot of troubles over the years and constant drydock because a lot of its components were coming from different sources, like the nuclear reactor being actually a submarine reactor in the first place, or its propellers of US design that never worked properly (the company collasped since then iirc).